originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: Maigret
The LORD God of the Old Testament and God the Father of the New Testament are one and the same -
I highly doubt that. The 'god' of the Old Testament looks to mostly be human made up, mean, blood thirsty and craven. The God of the New Testament
is mercy and love. They look like two totally different 'gods' to me.
God has a Covenant with mankind of the Ten Commandments.
ATS Thread - 10 Commandments Doctrine of Men
Some information for you on where the 10 Commandments really came from.
There are festival Sabbaths to be observed in the holy days, as well as the weekly Sabbath every Saturday.
Lemme' guess .... 7th Day Adventist, right? Ya'll think that if people have as their main day of worship any day other than Saturday, then they
are going to hell because they aren't following 'God's Law'. Right?
Yeah ... good luck with that. I think you are in for a surprise when you die and see that the real God isn't a legalistic mess like the Old
Testament makes Him look like, and you'll really be in for a surprise when you see that a whole lotta' people who you thought were lost actually
'made it' to Heaven.
My previous reply to you was dealing with your guess that I am a 7th Day Adventist - which I'm not, but to answer the rest of your response.
God's main characteristic, if I can put it like that, is LOVE! But if you piss Him off, then you're dealing with a whole other side of Him! I've
had personal experience of this and believe me, ' fear
of the LORDD is the beginning of wisdom'!
I've read your interesting post on the Ten Commandments, and although I can't explain it, I do KNOW that the Ten Commandments are the basis of the
Covenant between God and mankind, and are still mightily important to Him.
Maybe He had a previous covenant with the Egyptians, because intriguingly there is a Biblical reference in Isaiah 19:25 'Whom the LORD of hosts
shall bless, saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance".
' (This may also be
something to do with the mysterious Melchizedek, who obviously did mighty work in his own time?)
As to the name of the Son, I only know God said to me that the name of His Son is NOT Jesus! And as you said, this is a transliteration of the Greek,
which is 'Iesous', which comes from the Hebrew 'Yeshua'.
If you read, Acts 4:12 'Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we
must be saved'.
And John 3:18 'He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the
name of the only begotten Son of God'.
Going by the number of times the name of the Son is mentioned in the Bible, I'd say it's a mighty big deal! But you can check for yourself and make
up your own mind on that one.
As to the Sabbath, which is Saturday, I only know it's a very important step in making contact with God. And it was His very first lesson to me; so
it is hugely important to Him and I believe it is because this shows Him that we are obeying and worshipping Him! Check how many times the Son
stresses the importance of obedience to God within the Bible too, to get an idea of the amount of Biblical importance placed on this aspect.
The legalistic aspect is interesting too. Too often it is a misquoted saying that the Son did away with the Law, but if you read carefully, you'll
see he did away with the righteousness and the curse of the Law, but not the Law itself. Also, God has shown me the Law as being the Ten
God has not shown me [yet?] the 613 odd laws, which apply to different sections of the community anyway, and can't be kept by everyone as whole. For
example, men can't keep any of the regulations regarding females, such as their menstruation, etc. Also some of the 613 regulations only apply to the
priests, etc. etc.
Either way, the Ten Commandments are the very basis for community living, and for people getting along with each other. And when the discussion was
held about which of the 'Jewish' laws the converted Gentiles had to stick too, the only ones Peter and company added were, as shown in Acts 21:25
'As concerning the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves
from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication'.
There are many relevant verses in the Bible about the importance of keeping the Ten Commandments. So you ignore them, for whatever reason, at your own