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originally posted by: Flatfish
So I guess that means if I want to give my property taxes to my local school district instead of the County tax assessors office, that should e OK too?
Or how about when I gas up my car, I just give the money owed to my local Hobby Lobby instead of the gas station owner?
What a pathetic argument!
Not at all! Some of the biggest nuts in America today are politicians and local law enforcement. Sheriffs like Joe Arpio of Arizona, or legislators like Steve Stockman, Louie Gohmert, Ted Cruz, Stella Tremblay, Jim Jordan, Jason Chaffetz, Mike Huckabee, Michele Bachmann, Eric Cantor, Steve Lavin, Mike Lee, Allen West, just to name a few. Really, I could go on listing radical right-wing legislators "till the cows come home" and every one of them is as crazy as the day is long, but what's the use?
With respect to the legislators in those 9 states
who think they're going to take control of federal
land, well I have to say that they sound just bat-crap crazy enough to fit right in the "Nest." Yeah,
you can put them on my list too.
Governor Herbert, Federal Delegation,
and State Legislators Join Together to
Demand Transfer of Public Lands to
Utah
Mar 23 2012
SALT LAKE CITY - Today, Utah Governor Gary R.
Herbert signed House Bill 148, which demands the
federal government make good on the promises
made in the 1894 Enabling Act to extinguish title to
federal lands in Utah.
originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName
a reply to: tsingtao
eh; I guess I get your point; though I think I disagree with it.
but consider the sheer amount of wealth we're talking about here. and consider the needs of society?
The wealthy are only wealthy because they had an enviroment in which there was infrastructure and resources (human and natural) with which to manipulate in their interest.
Therefore; having used (or having had their forbearer use) this infrastructure and resources, they must pay for the system that granted the infrastructure and resources. (this includes even those things that don't directly impact them, the more money they make, chances are the greater their reliance on society/social-infrastructure to make said money, thus the greater their debt to society).
Also; we must discuss the sort of callousness you seem to bring; we're not talking about knick-knacks, electric gits, or whatever, a lot of taxes are used merely to pay for the maintaining of the old, the young, the disabled, and the poor.
originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: tsingtao
No, I will not let the rich off that easy. It is personal when my grandchildren suffer because they have begun to hoard everything, jobs, money. And I am so sorry for you that they cannot see that you are a human being with needs that require a job.
originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: tsingtao
Nope. Time to fight. I don't need money anymore. But, until I take my last breath, I will fight for freedom. I don't care about budgets and money. I don't care what any of you say I will not accept such an evil abusive oligarchy system.
I thought I was going to die when I gave birth an 11 lb boy, and I chose that pain, no narcotics. I will put that same force of will into this fight.