reply to post by QueenofSpades
It's an interesting topic indeed.
I'm an agnostic but over the last few years I've been studying various sacred texts in an attempt to establish one, consistent, overlapping story
between them as best as possible. That is because I've come to the realisation that a lot of these stories may simply be observations of an ET
intelligence interacting with Earth.
There are several main interpretations of the story:
The Lord God created angels (no free will), then the Jinn (angelic like beings WITH free will) and finally the human. This is the Islamic account.
Samjaza (Samjaza and Samael are the 'true' names of Satan) was a Jinn and was considered highly respected. When The Lord God created humans, he asked
all Jinn to bow down to his 'greatest creation'. Samjaza, feeling sickened by the apparent betrayal (believing the Jinn were his greatest creation)
and consumed by his own pride - refuses to bow to the human. The Lord God, angry at Samjazas disobedience banishes him to our realm along with anyone
who dared stand up for Samjaza. From this point on, the Devil promises to spend the rest of his existence proving to God that humans are a flawed
In early Christian/Jewish texts a different story is sometimes told. In Christianity, there is no distinction between angels and demons - they are the
same entity in terms of Gods creations. Samael was a highly regarded angel. One day Samael challenged God on his human creation, saying "why do bother
my lord? They are a lost cause'. The Lord turns around and says 'Dear Samael, I made a grand mistake with the form I gave them. You would be no better
in one of their bodies.'
Samael takes on Gods offer and is incarnated on the physical plane we comprehend. Upon setting his eyes on a woman, while in the body of an Earthly
man, Samael commits the act of rape. I can't remember how this story specifically ends, but its an interesting story to have in a sacred text. It
practically paints The Main God as having an element of regret or self-blame in regards to our 'bad actions'.
Then, of course, you have the classic Biblical account. Like you said, the Devil decided to give us knowledge of Good and Bad (free
will/consciousness) despite God not wishing it on us. This is why the Devil was banished to the Earth. Though, this story isn't repeated often in
regards to the Devil specifically, and is often mimicked in early culture belief but attributed to a multitude of 'Gods' rather than just Satan.
In the Book of Enoch we have the most clear picture of the Devil. He is spoken as being one of the watchers of Earth (effectively angels/demons). For
whatever reason, Samjaza and a group of his clan (all named in the Book of Enoch) decide to 'descend upon' Earth. They do so for our women, and this
results in 'forced sexual activity' with Earthly women. These women had offspring which were regarded as Demi-Gods (Nephilim in the classic Bible) and
were said to be larger than the normal man (hence the 12 foot giant claims linking to Nephilim). These Demi-gods and original 'gods' put us under
extreme oppression, eventually causing The Main God to wish a flood/reset upon humanity to clear away the damage.
The classic Biblical and Islamic versions probably paints Samjaza in the best light. He is painted as a rebel in Christianity but you cannot discount
that various texts describe the character as causing a lot of harm to humanity. Of course, the Main God did too. No one said these have to be friendly
figures. If we created a race right now, how many humans would abuse that race?
Personally, I think when one combines these stories with that of the early Sumerians/Ancient Egyptians coupled with some of the oldest written texts
(Epic of Gilgamesh - 2800 BC - talks about Gods flooding us and Noah's Ark ~3000 years before the bible or the Sumerians King list which claims
200,000 odd years ago 'Kingships descended from heaven to rule us' and were mostly Demi-gods until the flood) it becomes evident to one that we may
have been contacted by an advanced intelligence a long time ago that has effectively messed up our spiritual path beyond repair at the moment.
Of course, I'm still skeptical, but its definitely food for thought. It can add up in a strange way if one looks at the history and teachings close
enough. That could possibly be the greatest cover up in human history, more so than then the apparent abduction/current visitor cover up many believe
to be happening.
If Samjaza was a real character somehow, I can't say I believe he was out to help us completely (especially since the raping of Earths women is a
common theme in regards to him) but I must say I admire his pride if he truly did refuse to acknowledge a superior creation by his God.
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