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Obamacare stops people & private plans from spending $ on healthcare 4 procedures/drugs feds deny

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posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 08:58 AM
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A new report by the Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics at National Right to Life warns that one of the Obamacare provisions that ex-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Americans would discover if Congress passed the bill is that some seniors will not be allowed to spend as much as they wish on their health care.

The extreme position was revealed in a special report by the NRLC titled “The Affordable Care Act and Health Care Access in the United States,” which analyzes four fundamental policy areas of Obamacare. It finds several ways that the federal health care law “will drastically limit access to life-saving medical treatment under the law.”

“These four areas include: the ‘excess benefit’ tax coming into effect in 2018, the current exclusion of adequate health insurance plans from the exchanges, present limits on senior citizens’ ability to use their own money for health insurance, and federal limits on the care doctors give their patients to be implemented as soon as 2016.”

.... Pelosi famously said Congress should pass the law so Americans could find out what was in it, and its unpleasant surprises have been shocking citizens ever since. The study finds, for example, that the “Independent Payment Advisory Board,” which starting next January is supposed to make “recommendations to slow the growth in national health expenditures,” will set “quality and efficiency” standards for hospitals and demand that doctors meet government minimums in order to contract with any qualified health insurance plan.

“Essentially, doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers can be told by Washington just what diagnostic tests and medical care are considered to meet ‘quality and efficiency’ standards.

These standards will be enforced not just for health care paid for by federally funded programs like Medicare, but also for health care paid for by private citizens and by the health insurance they or their employers purchase,” the study explains. “These standards are specifically designed to limit the funds that Americans may choose to spend on health care so that they cannot keep up with the rate of medical inflation.

Treatment that a doctor and patient deem needed or advisable to save the patient’s life or preserve or improve the patient’s health, but which runs afoul of the imposed standards, can be denied, even if the patient is willing and able to pay for it,” the study warns. Read more at www.wnd.com...


Cleaver way to kill off the high number of senior citizens from the baby boom era.
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posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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Obamacare apologists calling this 'LIES' in 3,2,1.....



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 10:06 AM
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butcherguy
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Obamacare apologists calling this 'LIES' in 3,2,1.....


Well in all fairness, the source IS from World News Daily. But me and my BS detector went sniffing through WND's single source (which links to NRoL's homepage for some reason and not the report). New linky:

“THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND HEALTH CARE ACCESS IN THE UNITED STATES”

I don't really have a problem with WND reporting on another site's report, but man at LEAST link to some relevant information from the website itself instead of just linking to the homepage of the organization...



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 10:12 AM
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No argument there.

I can only imagine what we will see coming to us when Obamacare is fully implemented... something Obama himself seems very reluctant to do... at least before the elections later this year.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 11:56 AM
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A lot of tests are given that are not necessary, this brings up the cost of health care. If you go in the doctor and have confirmed pneumonia, should you be going to get tested for asthma the next day? When you tell the doctor your back is really bothering you at night because of an injury, should the doctor schedule a sleep apnia test for you? I am just one person who has experienced things like this. There are millions more. In both the above cases, the person giving the tests said it wasn't sensible to do these tests. I know this is going on bigtime, mine is not an isolated incident. People are also going in wanting tests that don't apply to their symptoms...not the case in my case though, I was wondering why I was sent in the first place. I also had a scope stuck down my throat checking for problems which would cause Gerd yet I told the doctor I never get heartburn unless I eat three pasties in a row...that is about three pounds of food. I had a hernia by the belly button that was causing my symptoms, I found this out later in the ER wondering what the temporary lump was that went back in when I touched it. Funny the specialist never tested me for a Goa'uld

Not all doctors are like this, only one out of five do this kind of stuff. Seems like when you get in this group, your problems never get correctly fixed.
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posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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The problem here is the source. I have no issues with WND, but the leftist agenda machine has effectively painted them as a source for the tin foil hat crowd. If they don't see it on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, Chris Mathews or read it in then NY Times then it can't be true. They'll only become believers when their head is in the guillotine.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 01:12 PM
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You didn't honestly expect we'd be able to buy care Uncle Sugar didn't deem necessary and prudent to give us, did ya?

Hell... Uncle knows best and we're helpless children in need of guidance to save our very lives on a daily basis. Such things as what care we choose for ourselves is FAR too complex a matter to be left to idiots like us.




posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 01:29 PM
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does anybody remember last year right during the push to register for obumacare, that just about all msm talk shows, and news were running reports about unneeded procedures and and preventive health care, and if you had to pay out of your own pocket to get a second opinion, to verify if you really needed the procedures done.

then there were a couple of stories were it was said that hospitals are already getting points from the system and actual payments for not doing test and admitting people.

gotta see if i can find some of these, been awhile now and don't remember exactly were or when. i do remember one was on nbc nightly news.

anyway i was thinking at the time that's was because obumacare isn't going to pay for it.


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posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 02:24 PM
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butcherguy
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No argument there.

I can only imagine what we will see coming to us when Obamacare is fully implemented... something Obama himself seems very reluctant to do... at least before the elections later this year.


Have you noticed how the latest round of postponements, was to 2016, so as not to affect the 2016 elections?



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 02:27 PM
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Granted this happens sometimes.

However, we have a case right now that shows what happens when the government decides they know better than the patients MD. The little girl in Mass where social workers decided she had a psych problem and put her in a psych ward. Against the advice of the little girl's treating MD who had been successfully treating her. In the psych ward she was given no medical care.

That is the kind of government interference that is coming for you and for me. The government deciding your diagnosis and treatment, not your MD and if you disagree and try to get other treatment, you will be denied it according to Obamacare.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 02:30 PM
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The problem here is the source. I have no issues with WND, but the leftist agenda machine has effectively painted them as a source for the tin foil hat crowd. If they don't see it on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, Chris Mathews or read it in then NY Times then it can't be true. They'll only become believers when their head is in the guillotine.


Most of the time I find WND way ahead of other news organizations. WND publishes stuff and the other media only report on it because people start memes that won't go away.
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posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 06:26 PM
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grandmakdw
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Granted this happens sometimes.

However, we have a case right now that shows what happens when the government decides they know better than the patients MD. The little girl in Mass where social workers decided she had a psych problem and put her in a psych ward. Against the advice of the little girl's treating MD who had been successfully treating her. In the psych ward she was given no medical care.

That is the kind of government interference that is coming for you and for me. The government deciding your diagnosis and treatment, not your MD and if you disagree and try to get other treatment, you will be denied it according to Obamacare.



What you just explained is a wrong diagnosis, doctors trying to get more business for their kind.. The girl should have stayed under the control of the doctor who knew her and not handed off to a different field. I saw the doctors here try to keep the money in these hospitals and therapists hands on a ten year old. The kid has metabolic issues and they blocked his seeing a bigger hospital doing broad testing even though his medicaid would allow it if the doctor would have done what the neurologist said to do...send him to Uof M medical center for testing. Instead of the general practitioner following this recommendation, she sent the kid there for testing in what she thought the condition was..one specific test...which came back negative. U of M is a good hospital, they should have had the ability to examine this child. The doctor blocked this to make herself look right...ignoring the specialists recommendations. Medicaid did not block this, the general practitioner did.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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just remember you can always go to another country for any medical procedures, tests, or second opinions that might not be allowed. in fact you could get that stuff cheaper (and better care) in a lot of "poorer" nations, as things are. this will be a huge boon for the "healthcare vacation" industry. i know some countries even have "medical care" listed on their entry forms along with everything else like business, tourism, education etc.



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