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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 06:56 AM
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Greetings from germany, ( i always say that so that you are not to strict about my grammar and spelling
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At the end i will post a declaration which is part of an ongoing effort from some people to make disclosure reality. But first hear me out.


Part 1
Just see my "perspective" as a possibility. I will not give you proof for any point i make. Its not about that right now.Its about possibilities and reason. Because our reason tells us that there must be a reason for our "isolation". We see an infinite universe but no real signs of other lifeforms. But we want disclosure. Something is fishy about this situation because there is the strong possibility that we already have a kind of contact! (Ufo, sightings, abductions etc)

I will just give you a perspective which COULD be real and this possibility alone just addresses the importance that we unify in our effort to make disclosure happen. Divide and conquer is a strategy of some usufructuaries which use this strategy to postpone disclosure. Disclosure is not really in the interest of the elite. I think you can sense that.


My point : without our action as a whole society -> disclosure will not happen for a long, long time! Why do you think disclosure should happen now? Do you really think we are ready? Do you believe Et would "disclose" their existence even when we are not ready?



Statement: We are deciding when disclosure is happening as a society

First i want to make a statement: You are always in power and you can always mirror that to yourself if you want to. Intent, Focus and action are the elements of a change. (watch what is happening in the Ukraine and other parts of the world. Its always the gathering of "intent" that makes a big change possible. Means: its always the PEOPLE that are focused on ONE goal that DO the change)
SO: if you want to make it happen think about why you are not putting more active energy in that!!

WE are the reason why disclosure is not happening right now. Is this possible for you?


Possibility: Our government knows that ET exists.

Let me ask you a question: do you believe that our government KNOWs for a fact that ET exists? I think at least you sense that this is so and there is enough proof ("soft and hard evidence") out there for this theory.

So if this is a real possibility for you: why do you think "aliens" would ACCEPT that our government KNOWS of their existence and keep us in the dark about it. What would be the reason for that? Why would they not show up in a clear way to show us that they are real.


We are the ones we have been waiting for

The reason for that could be that the Et civilization that contacts our government is "evil". That they conspire with our government in some shape or form. Because why would they not show them selfs to us. They could do that any time they want to.

If a alien race with evil motivations would keep us in the dark , AT LEAST there would be a high possibility that there also benevolent ETS out there that would be aware of our situation and the ongoing contact of our government with a "evil" race because: advanced civilizations would have more possibilities to "track down" the contacts of other civilizations to "secure" the "freedom of their society"->cold war on a bigger scale so to say...


("evil" of course is a simplifaction because advanced beings are not "evil" they are just oriented for their benefit without being evil as a end in itself)



But there is also the high possibility that ET is not evil...that advanced beings are not Evil at all because they understand that everything is abundantly available in the universe and there is not need for "war", no need for manipulation or force.

But why would they not show up and "teach" us?

Why would a benevolent society ACCEPT that we as a whole society are unaware of their existence while a few beneficiaries in our governments are aware of that.

Maybe a reason for that could be that they wait for us as a WHOLE to "grow up" before they make them selfs known to all of us. Maybe they don´t really care about our government because they know that the power comes from the people itself.

But why are they not showing up RIGHT NOW to empower us as a whole?

Could it be that advanced civilizations wait for a certain stage in the development of society also as a means for the Security of their own "existence"?

Theory: advanced civilizations understand that the whole universe is like a big biological mechanism that is "connected". They understand that a society as a biological and psychological system can only be "introduced" into a bigger "psychological and biological network of different networks" when they are ready and mature enough to become a "healthy part" of it.



So until that happens a society like ours would be in a kind of "quarantine " or isolation.

Why? Just look around: how could we be part of a bigger whole that is REALLY REALLY VAST and complex, when we could not even be a harmonic whole on our little, tiny planet with the few differences we have (color,way of being and belief-systems) . How could we be part of something bigger when we can not even accept our differences on our own blue litte planet which is in itself a HOLISTIC SYSTEM!!!!

Lets make a bold claim: advanced civilisations KNOW that every war about "the right god", "the right way", "the right system" is a sign of immaturity. And they watch us and sometimes test if we are ready. Lets say: "The phoenix lights" were one of those tests and at the same time a "little boost" they are giving..Could this be a possibility for you?


Why would they not help us to "mature much faster" by just showing up and communicate openly? Why would they not assist us in growing and expanding much faster. Why would they not give us "free energy" devices and help us clean up fukushima?

Well: maybe they understand the same thing about us as that we understand about our children.
Responsibility can not be taken away. To learn something you really have to "feel the whole consequences" because if you take away the outcome of actions and correct it in a way -> there is not really a change happening inside the child. The child has a win win situation: it did something wrong just as a kind of "expression of its chaotic way of thinking"....but it does not really feel the burden of consequences.

A child that does not learn the consequences for its own actions always is a potential danger for itself and the society it lives in. You always would have to control it to secure your own freedom..It could burn down the house you and it live in any time.

So maybe ET will never really "take that away from us".

But why are they not "teaching" us more directly? When they are "benevolent" ..What do they not have enough "heart" to "help us".. Why are they not acting like parents and at least give us some "theory".
Well maybe they already do but that is not important right now because obviously they don´t do that in a way the mass consciousness is aware of .... So why wont they give us a clear guidance.




posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 06:58 AM
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Maybe advanced beings are so advanced that "Expansion" is a very important interest they have. Maybe they are at the same time "benevolent" but also strategic. Because they would never help a "system" which could be part of their own destruction.

Maybe an advanced civilization understand that REAL EXPANSION (which is part of advancement in all ways) only can happen if societies (which are thought structures!!!) find their own way to become a "balanced and enduring system" without copying the ways of others that already found effectiveness ...They understand that expansion happens from a state in which "everything is possible"...that means: it happens in a state of "NOT KNOWING" the future, not knowing another way... It happens as own expression of the own system searching for a solution. They know that real maturity is to LET US EXPAND TOTALLY on our own. Until we are ready . Maybe a part of becoming a part of something bigger is to also "give" something "special". Maybe until now we are not offering something special because we just have our chaotic ways but can not really introduce something to the "whole system of different unified races" which helps expansion. Maybe until now we are just so seperated and clustered that they still wait for us to mature more.

But let me give you fact that i found out after a long study of different cultural systems in which a light "contact" wich ET was happening: they ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS give inspiration to "know of their existence". The give total freedom in that. We as a society are not SO MUCH isolated that they will not even give us hints that they exist.
They gave us many, many hints that they exist. THe Phoneix Lights was one of them. Just study the phoenix lights in depth and you will understand that we as society back than showed them that we are not "empowering" ourselfs even when we are inspired to...Because this was a possibilty to really ASK questions. To really WONDER. We did not do that. We were just buying into the ridicule. YOur own senator of arizona saw the SHIP but lied to the press to supress this possibilty.

THeory: they wait for something to happen to inspire us again like that.

Right now they are not showing us things like that because they know that we already have all the information (You-tube, Google etc) we need to at least SENSE that ET could watch us right now....They wait for something before they "inspire" us again to put more effort in our "unification of will"...

We are our own government always. But we try to hide this fact from us by "outsourcing" the responsibility. And maybe advanced beings see our government in its "scattered, divided ways" as a reflection of the thought system of our society. In other words : AS A MEASURE OF OUR MATURITY!!!SO the more we demerge this knowledge from us as a whole the more we show that we are in conflict with parts of our own though system. Which is war itself.


But You are always able to respond. So your responsibility never fades. You can always show that they can give us more "inspiration"...be more direct and blunt.

I think you know or at least sense that parts of our governments KNOW that ET exists. And i guess you have the concept that, if they don´t want to "share" that knowledge, there is no way for us to get it. But thats not true.
It needs a momentum. It needs a clear sign.
Please spread this. Because its part of "a vote " for disclosure. You don´t have to believe that this is real...Just know that this could be a possibilty. This is enough. Action does not always need totally Knowledge about the outcome. It can sometimes just be a sing of the state of being your in. But just a thought will not express anything to advanced beings. Because advanced beings understand that a thought is "nothing" without action and a clear sign that you will folllow it. So at LEAST : THey are wating for a sign from us that we are ready for more.....

Here is a declaration: maybe you feel that it makes sense to make this available to more people so that they can show "intent, focus" and a willingness to make change happen without outsourcing it in a "blind" way..



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:01 AM
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Part 2


Ufo Witness Declaration



FACT: From 1982 to 1985, large triangular and boomerang-shaped UFOs were
reported over the Hudson Valley by over 7,000 credible witnesses, including
police and officials at the Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant.
FACT: In 1989 and 1990, large triangular and rectangular unidentified flying
objects, one the size of an aircraft carrier; were reported over Belgium by over
2,000 witnesses, including police and military personnel.
FACT: In 1997, multiple sightings of a mile long boomerang-shaped UFO were
reported over the state of Arizona by over 10,000 witnesses, including police,
military personnel and Republican Governor Fife Symington.
We make no claims as to the nature or origin of these UFOs. However, those
who have taken the time and effort to conduct serious, in-depth investigations
into these reports know that these sightings are of real, physical crafts and are
indisputable FACTS. Thousands of such sightings of physical crafts of unknown
origin have been reported throughout the world for decades by credible
witnesses, yet most who report such sightings are treated with ridicule, disbelief,
scorn and even threats.


In light of the facts, we who have witnessed such unexplained crafts no longer accept this cynical mindset as realistic or credible.




Those of us who are witnesses to the UFO phenomenon know they exist for a
fact. This is not an issue of speculation for such witnesses. However, we do not
insist that non-witnesses must believe such objects exist, only that witnesses be
treated with respect and that we deserve the same fairness and courtesy
afforded to any individual or group who honestly expresses their point of view
without fear of ridicule, punishment or persecution.
Recent polls clearly demonstrate that more than 50% of Americans believe that
UFOs are a real phenomenon that deserves legitimate recognition and serious
study by open-minded, qualified scientists, rather than being summarily
dismissed as misperceptions, fantasies, hoaxes or hallucinations by cynical,
unqualified debunkers. Over 36 million Americans have seen a UFO.



To put this statistic in political terms, these witnesses are also voters.

Therefore, we urge all who agree with the spirit of this declaration to send copies
of this letter to their representatives, public officials, the media, the police, the
military, airline officials, NASA and all candidates running for any public office to
assure them that our votes will go only to those who acknowledge the UFO
phenomenon as real and deserving of serious scientific investigation and who
publicly endorse fairness and respect toward any witness who reports a UFO.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:10 AM
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SnF for a really good thread on the subject. But IMO disclosure will
only come, when the veil is no longer needed. Disclosure would reveal
them as malevolent. That's the simple truth of the matter.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:11 AM
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Part 3


The possible effects of declarations like this is a sing for ET that we start to understand that we are a holistic system.
Because only a holistic system will be introduced into a bigger system. That should be obvious that progress only is made by integration of "differences". Its like a puzzle. Only if the puzzles fit together they can form a picture. And right now we are acting like a society which tries to destroy parts of the picture. So we are not really a whole picture yet.

And as the invention of nuclear power is one of the signs of progression of a society. Unification is also one of the steps that normally follow after it. First self aware intelligence will try to destroy the parts which it defines as "otherness" and later it will understand that everything is a reflection of the same intelligence.

THIS KNOWLEDGE which seems to sound esoteric to some people is part of the basic knowledge of advanced civilisations-> EVERYTHING IS ONE!


ACT AS ONE and disclosure will happen.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:16 AM
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randyvs
But IMO disclosure will
only come, when the veil is no longer needed. Disclosure would reveal
them as malevolent. That's the simple truth of the matter.


well maybe parts of the contacts we already have are malevolent. But certainly in a vast universe not every civilization is malevolent. The polarities will always stay in balance. So there are both possibilities right now. And only our own behavior in the future will determine if the "good ones" will help us out...

Because they are not "mother Therese". They understand that helping others is no help for the whole systems if the others are not helping the system as a whole. So in a way: our destruction is still a possibility.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:18 AM
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WE are the reason why disclosure is not happening right now. Is this possible for you?


There is a really really small percentage of people that feel there is anything to disclose...most of those are called..."conspiracy theorists". When compared to the rest of the population....it is a minute percentage. Not nearly enough to cause any real change...not to mention disclosure.

So yes...we are the reason...so go than...go to your folks at home...your mother and father...and explain to them how the elite is evil and they are hiding the truth from us...and that you need from them to care about Aliens and disclosure...and that you need a critical mass for any real change.

convince your folks enough to care about disclosure and enough to go out protesting.

I can tell you from experience...that the existence of UFO's is not something the boggles the average mind. Majority don't even realize the potential of such a discovery.

Until then...you have CT's that nobody really takes seriously. Much like yourself at times...don't you agree ?



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:28 AM
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Wrong. We are in the internet age in which "hypes" can snowball really fastly..
There is no majority needed for disclosure. Expansive thoughts and intentions and inspiration in a system are "integrative". Seperation needs more power than integration. A civilizations needs only a few representatives who learn something until the whole system introduces the effect of this knowledge. (you can observe this in nature when populations learn something new).

It takes not even the half of the half of the majority to make disclosure happen because it needs only a momentum.

There is a natural interest in the archetypal structure of thought systems (societies) to expand: If people who are shutting them-selfs of from this "Possibility" of disclosure see more "signs" that this really is a possibility they will really fastly become a part of this energy. Therefore majority in that way is not "hard to gain"....

This is what you can see in the viral hypes going on right now. People are becoming aware of many possibilities.. .And as soon as they see a representation of possibility that fits their "definition of possibilities" they are ready to put effort in its manifestation.

As you can see more than 50 percent of your society believe in Ufos..so that already determines a big possibilty of "snowball effects" as soon as it becomes "more official"..



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:33 AM
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But certainly in a vast universe not every civilization is malevolent


But not every civilzation, if any, are coming here. And benevolence is
polite and reassuring and well mannered. Not shifty and now you see
me, now you don't, full of head games and creating suspicion. Abducting
people and probing at will.

Sorry, common sense says negative.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:45 AM
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Wrong. We are in the internet age in which "hypes" can snowball really fastly..


A hype ?




It takes not even the half of the half of the majority to make disclosure happen because it needs only a momentum.


We have...nowhere near 1/10th of that which you claim is needed. Not even near.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 07:57 AM
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This is what you can see in the viral hypes going on right now. People are becoming aware of many possibilities.. .And as soon as they see a representation of possibility that fits their "definition of possibilities" they are ready to put effort in its manifestation.



you can kid yourself with various individual disclosures and various theories that make the internet rounds...and "hypes" as you call it. But make no mistake about it, only the official statement from the person currently in charge (POTUS) will make any difference.

The internet has been brewing about aliens and disclosures for the last 20 years. We are no closer to it now...no matter the "hypes" and wants and desires of the UFO believing individuals.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 08:14 AM
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I have been preaching about the same thing, but not as good as you. The problem lies in ourself, current world population mindset still not ready yet to accept the fact "they exist and already here for along time". This mindset will continue to plaque us all until NWO succeed. The government knew and expect this and they are right to withhold the people.

Humans are still young to realize who is he in the universe/outerspace terms. For now, we are making progress, about who own Ukraine, as usual, everyone got it wrong.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 08:18 AM
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It could be that there is nothing to disclose. Could be we are too far away from any other civilization to make visits impossible. Could be we are an anomaly and life like ours doesn't happen frequently. Could be we are it and there are no others at all.
There is not any proof just circumstantial evidence.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 08:19 AM
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What makes you think that there is anything to disclose? The government has being saying they have no info..maybe that is disclosure, maybe its the truth.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 08:21 AM
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what makes you think the thousands of people who report ufo sightings are crazy? What makes you think the people from the military that came forward with knowledge in that area are attention hungry fakers?
What makes you think the government has such technology...

Are you using delusional logic of a selective narrow mindset?



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 08:30 AM
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You're asking all the questions i and probably everyone else has ever asked themselves about ET coming here.

A lot of people use the questions as evidence they are not, and have not been coming here, others use our own limited knowledge of physics and the Universe generally as evidence they are not...both are illogical, since our comprehension of the science that they may employ to get here is zero percent, so we cannot judge whether it is technically possible, and we cannot claim they are not here because they do not openly show themselves to us all.

The answers to these often thought questions may be as strange as some of the intelligent life out there.

Or may be more mundane in explanation...they may not reveal themselves to us in a grand way, because they possible don't care to, or are not motivated to come here because of Human beings at all...we may simply be an interesting sideline for their research of reason for coming.

Or they are primarily interested in us, but don't particularly care whether we know about them or not.

The answers can be anything.

I don't think that it is because they don't wish to interfere with our technological development or anything like a 'Star Trek' prime directive...simply because we supposedly already have their technology, some of it at least, from recovered from downed or crashed craft.

If we take for granted accounts of craft and body recoveries, we know the pilots physiology, we know they produce energy in a different and i would assume highly efficient way, we know they have different alloys and materials than we do.

When i say we, i mean the covert agencies and corporations in on it, not we the people.

The bottom line for me is yes, given the accounts from millions of people, throughout history and even allowing for obvious cases of hoax, leg pulling and charletants out to make money, the evidence from credible witnesses from all sectors of Human society is too strong for their existence and them coming here to reasonably deny.

Which has greater immediate implications...if these craft have been recovered, and our own black project craft have been built based on power and energy harvesting tech taken from these ET craft...AGW and fossil fuels, and nuclear energy are a complete scam, as the problems would have been solved and solutions gradually entered into our societies years ago.

Again, this could be more evidence that ET just doesn't care one way or the other what goes on here...they come, do what they came to do and that's it...leave us to get on with the show.

We don't know...some do, but they aren't going to kill the goose that is busy laying the massive golden eggs anytime soon i don't think.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 09:23 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


Let's start here:


kauskau
FACT: ...However, those who have taken the time and effort to conduct serious, in-depth investigations
into these reports know that these sightings are of real, physical crafts and are
indisputable FACTS.


Oh, I dispute that. How is it an indisputable fact that there were 'real, physical crafts' when no physical evidence exists? There are other potential explanations other than 'real, physical crafts'. There are even explanations for 'real physical crafts' that don't include an extraterrestrial component.


Those of us who are witnesses to the UFO phenomenon know they exist for a
fact.


See, you make a common mistake that I believe always causes confusion and seeds contention. No reasonable person doubts the existence of UFOs. The term means a flying object that hasn't been identified. You're implying a completely different meaning. 'Aliens'. That's certainly not an indisputable fact. When you don't know what something is, then guess what? You don't know. You can assign whatever attributes you want to it, because it's UNIDENTIFIED. If you know what they are, quit calling them UFOs. You're just confusing the issue.

Now as to this Darryl Anka guy, maybe he really and truly believes he's 'channeling' an alien entity. I can't get in his head so I have no idea what he really believes, and like we all know, it isn't a lie if you believe it. He doesn't help his credibility with me (not that he cares) when he's hawking 'quartz contact crystals' at $175 a pop off his site.

He may have some good advice for people. There's a pretty famous book out there called The Urantia Book. Many people swear by it, and live their lives according to it. It's all supposedly channeled information.

I think information should stand by itself. By all means a source should be considered, but at the end of the day, information is either valid, valuable, verifiable and truthful, or it isn't regardless of the source. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Personally, (not that you care) I don't buy the channeling thing. Not this guy, not the Urantia book, not Ramtha of "What the Bleep Do We Know?" fame... That's not to discount 100% of the information imparted, I just don't personally believe anyone's channeling extraterrestrial, or 35,000 year old spirit consciousnesses.

.02


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 09:35 AM
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darryl anka is not the topic here as Springer wants it to be treated as a hoax from now on.....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

So please no "off topic" Bashar discussion here. hehe




Thanks


(speaking of : the "force which always wants evil and creates the good". lol )



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 09:40 AM
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what makes you think the thousands of people who report ufo sightings are crazy?


I never said anyone was crazy..you are using those words in an attempt to misquote me. People have reported seeing things they cant identify..this dose not automatically = visiting aliens which = government conspiracy.

Even if there was anything going on the government might not have any real info on it.

edit on 3-3-2014 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 09:44 AM
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Millions of people believe in god or think they have witnessed evidence of his existence. Millions more think they have seen ghosts. Do you think that because of this there is a government coverup and conspiracy regarding these subjects. Do you think the governments have recover ghost hidden away? Basically people have reported seeing things they cant identify..this dose not automatically = visiting aliens which = government conspiracy.



again

FACT: From 1982 to 1985, large triangular and boomerang-shaped UFOs were reported over the Hudson Valley by over 7,000 credible witnesses, including police and officials at the Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant.

FACT: In 1989 and 1990, large triangular and rectangular unidentified flying objects, one the size of an aircraft carrier; were reported over Belgium by over 2,000 witnesses, including police and military personnel.

FACT: In 1997, multiple sightings of a mile long boomerang-shaped UFO were reported over the state of Arizona by over 10,000 witnesses, including police, military personnel and Republican Governor Fife Symington. We make no claims as to the nature or origin of these UFOs. However, those who have taken the time and effort to conduct serious, in-depth investigations into these reports know that these sightings are of real, physical crafts and are indisputable FACTS. Thousands of such sightings of physical crafts of unknown origin have been reported throughout the world for decades by credible witnesses, yet most who report such sightings are treated with ridicule, disbelief, scorn and even threats.






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