Sarah Palin 2008: Obama's indecisiveness will open Ukraine take over under Putin!

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buster2010
Yes trying to end wars that never should have been started is doing nothing. Everyone knows invading nations for no reason is good foreign policy.

How does one call increasing drone strikes almost ten fold 'Trying to end wars' unless they of course approve of those strikes in his attempt to end the war...

What part of the words trying to end wars do you not understand? Every time he wanted to stop any of these wars the military whores in our government cries about it and wants to keep the wars going. I guess you would support a dictator that just does as he pleases and says damn what congress thinks.

Prediction my foot. Russia was never going to let NATO or any other European power sway the Ukraine away from their influence.

That is why they are gearing up.

reply to post by buster2010

Yes trying to end wars that never should have been started is doing nothing. Everyone knows invading nations for no reason is good foreign policy.

I do believe the Libyans would agree.

Since the current administration started that war for no good reason.

What part of the words trying to end wars do you not understand?

Trying to end 'wars' ?

Seriously ?

The current potus is war whackey.

War on the middle class.
War on the rich
War on guns.
War on Wall Street.

Yeah and bombing the hell out of Libya is NOT 'trying to end wars'.

She has been right about quite a few things.

the end

So did Palin blame George W. Bush or accuse him of being "indecisive" when Russia/Putin invaded Georgia in 2008? No, of course not.

This it the typical right-wing blame game. During Katrina Bush went hunting. Russia invaded Georgia? Bush was playing volleyball. Ukraine? Obama is calling Putin. Guess who they blame? (*)

Seriously, if Repugs want to play a blame game, they should look at their own record regarding the Russian invasion of Georgia that happened on their watch. Personally, I think it's extremely petty to blame the actions of a wanna-be dictator like Putin on Obama or any US president. It's as useless as blaming Chamberlain or FDR for Hitler's invasion of Poland. Putin (and Hitler) are the offending parties, the blame lies solely with them.

reply to post by CALGARIAN


Her view of a "crisis" is off-base. Putin is invading Ukraine because of American and Western influences pushing the already divided country.

Unless she was privy to the plan to screw with Russia in 2008, she's painting Putin as a warmonger and Obama as weakling. Putin is doing exactly what he has to do because of what the USA has done.

Should we also give a "hats off" to RT for predicting an uprising in Ukraine back in 2011 when they ran the article stating that George Soros was attempting to fund a "Libyan scenario" for Ukraine? RT was much more accurate than Palin simply stating that Putin would invade Ukraine.

It's almost like she was told that McCain/Palin was going to lose and what the 8-year+ Obama presidency would be like. And all she was doing was repeating what she was told, because let's face it... Palin can't formulate her own thoughts anymore than Joe Biden can.

beezzer
reply to post by CALGARIAN

 

She saw how incompetent Obama was back in 08.

Obama has done nothing on the foreign policy stage to challenge that assertion.

Bowing to the Japanese emperor really helped:

latimesblogs.latimes.com...

Blackmarketeer
So did Palin blame George W. Bush or accuse him of being "indecisive" when Russia/Putin invaded Georgia in 2008? No, of course not.

This it the typical right-wing blame game. During Katrina Bush went hunting. Russia invaded Georgia? Bush was playing volleyball. Ukraine? Obama is calling Putin. Guess who they blame? (*)

Seriously, if Repugs want to play a blame game, they should look at their own record regarding the Russian invasion of Georgia that happened on their watch. Personally, I think it's extremely petty to blame the actions of a wanna-be dictator like Putin on Obama or any US president. It's as useless as blaming Chamberlain or FDR for Hitler's invasion of Poland. Putin (and Hitler) are the offending parties, the blame lies solely with them.

Is there a point there ?

I missed it from the intentional misrepresentation of the R name to take a digg at the right.

Yeah people do need to take a look at their own track record like:

Most games of golf during 6 years of president!

After 'chastizing Russia' the current guy declared 'happy hour'.

And my favorite 'jogging' through the White House in their thousand dollars suits,ties, and dress shoes.

Indeed some people do need to look at their own track record.



Yes sirrie that 'dynmanic duo' sure looks like they are 'taking care of business'.

DanaKatherineScully
Well the 'people' half of them want to be governed by unelected & undemocratic Eurocrats & American banksters & other half who speak Russian want to go back to the motherland.

I don't understand the hypocrisy of Obama saying that Putin shouldn't interfere on his own doorstep when the USA/Obama/Bush interfered & will continue to interfere in other countries on the other side of the world.

Try again and this time don't distort the facts.

Crimea - 2 million people. 54% are ethnic Russian / Russian speaking.

Are you stating that all 54% want Russia there?
What about the half that does not want to be a part of or occupied by Russia? I guess its easy to just ignore that part of the issue right? God forbid people acknowledge the fact that the very excuse being used by Russia is the very situation Russia has placed on the non ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

reply to post by neo96

I missed it from the intentional misrepresentation of the R name to take a digg at the right.

Coming from you, that's a joke. You're sole purpose on this site has been nothing but partisan politicking, using every distortion of the Republican record imaginable. You've never once acknowledged any fault on Republicans but its Democrats, Democrats, Democrats, all the time from you.

Ask yourself this - if Putin invaded Ukraine because of "Obama's indecisiveness" (according to Palin) then what caused Putin to invade Georgia in 2008? Would that be Bush's preoccupation with the quagmire he unleashed with his illegal and unilateral invasion of Iraq? When the Bush admin stood before Congress and the world and lied their asses off about the reasons for their invasion? If anything gave Putin the idea he could get away with invading Ukraine in 2014 it was his contempt for American politics and the fact he knew he could get away with it - again.

Hell, Putin knows the US is in a bad light among world leaders over the NSA spy program on their governments, via Snowden's leaked documents, and guess what - those programs all dated to 2007 or earlier - courtesy of the Republicans.

Republican malfeasance has left the USA in an untenable position, they have damaged the credibility of the American government and these are mistakes that will continue to haunt the US for many more years.

So sure, blame Democrats for "going along with it," but you seem negligent in your blame fest for failing to even acknowledge it was a REPUBLICAN plot they were going along with, and they, like the rest of the world, were being spoon-fed bull**** the entire time.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer

om you, that's a joke. You're sole purpose on this site has been nothing but partisan politicking, using every distortion of the Republican record imaginable. You've never once acknowledged any fault on Republicans but its Democrats, Democrats, Democrats, all the time from you.

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So what the hell does that have to do with Palin being right ?

Hell, Putin knows the US is in a bad light among world leaders over the NSA spy program on their governments, via Snowden's leaked documents, and guess what - those programs all dated to 2007 or earlier - courtesy of the Republicans.

Is that right ?



I guess pay no attention to Carter, and the creation of the FISA act.

And pay no attention to the Omnibus Counter Terrorism bill of the 90s under Clinton.

It's all the 'Repubicans fault' !! !!!

Republican malfeasance has left the USA in an untenable position, they have damaged the credibility of the American government and these are mistakes that will continue to haunt the US for many more years.

That would be the epic failures of the Clinton presidency that created the last decade of war.

That would also be the Charlie Wilson's of the Democratic party and the 'aid' to the mujahideen in the 80s that also created the last decade of war.

That would be the epic failure of DEMOCRAT's epic foreign policy blunders.

So sure, blame Democrats for "going along with it," bu

I will thank you very much.

ou seem negligent in your blame fest for failing to even acknowledge it was a REPUBLICAN plot they were going along with, and they, like the rest of the world, were being spoon-fed bull**** the entire time.

Instead of IGNORING the past 40 years of Democrat's epic failures.

Funny to be accused of being partisan and make comments like that.

Republican 'plots'.

Blah,blah,blah.


And for the record Russia is a bigger spy than the US is.

They have been spying on Americans since 1945.

Boscov
reply to post by CALGARIAN

 

Palin did not say she could see Russia from her house, Tina Fey said that on SNL. As to her "prediction", what act of indecisiveness is Obama guilty of? Russia has not re-claimed USSR status or Ukraine, and even if that came to pass, why would that be Obama's fault? The Russia/Ukraine theatre has been playing before Obama was in office, Senate or POTUS. Palin is looking to pin Communist propaganda on Obama, but this prediction has been written on the wall since 1991.

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OH shoot, sorry.. I thought she made reference to it!

now i feel ignorant, atleast i know better now!

reply to post by buster2010


Obama knows!

How many conflicts has he involved America in now?

reply to post by CALGARIAN


Don't worry Calgarian. While as a fellow Canadian looking in from the outside, Obama does look pretty Smug and Condescending whilst having no real clue what he's talking about. Much like some members of ATS who act like know it alls but really have no clue.





Look at Ronmey's face when listening to this tripe. Priceless...

Diisenchanted
reply to post by buster2010

 

Obama knows!

How many conflicts has he involved America in now?

Well, let's look at his record shall we.

Many people around the world are disturbed by U.S. drone attacks in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and elsewhere. The illusion that American drones can strike without warning anywhere in the world without placing Americans in harm's way makes drones dangerously attractive to U.S. officials, even as they fuel the cycle of violence that the "war on terror" falsely promised to end but has instead escalated and sought to normalize. But drone strikes are only the tip of an iceberg, making up less than 10 percent of at least 20,130 air strikes the U.S. has conducted in other countries since President Obama's inauguration in 2009.

No,,, You Don't Say!!! They call Obama The Bomber in Chief: 20,000 Airstrikes in the President's First Term Cause Death and Destruction From Iraq to Somalia.

The Obama administration is responsible for at least 18,274 air strikes in Afghanistan since 2009, including at least 1,160 by pilotless drones. The U.S. conducted at least 116 air strikes in Iraq in 2009 and about 1,460 of NATO's 7,700 strikes in Libya in 2011. While the U.S. military does not publish figures on "secret" air and drone strikes in other countries, press reports detail a five-fold increase over Bush's second term, with at least 303 strikes in Pakistan, 125 in Yemen and 16 in Somalia.

Obama has increased drones strikes Five Times More Than Bush,,, No,,, Not The Messiah!

Bush's roughly 24,000 air strikes in seven years from 2002 to 2008 amounted to an air strike about every 3 hours, while Obama's 20,130 in four years add up to one every 1-3/4 hours.

Bush hater's and Obama supporters, Read that Carefully,,, You're talk the difference between eight years and four years.
Link

In 2013, elite U.S. forces were deployed in 134 countries around the globe, according to Major Matthew Robert Bockholt of SOCOM Public Affairs. This 123% increase during the Obama years demonstrates how, in addition to conventional wars and a CIA drone campaign, public diplomacy and extensive electronic spying,

In the waning days of the Bush presidency, Special Operations forces were reportedly deployed in about 60 countries around the world.

America's Secret Military
St Pete for Peace
U.S. Expands Drone War
Obama Expands Missiles
A U. S. Presence
Just to name a few for you, buster2010.
Your President Obama is A Killing Machine.

reply to post by Boscov


I'm not sure why anyone would pin communist propaganda on Obama, no one needs to. All his relatives were that with Marxist and Maoist overtones.. His infamous mentor is a commie with a strong Marxist penchant.. All of his Tzars are that. Many of his supporters in his supported party are even that. Even his buddy "Van Jones" is an admitted commie, and he is still on Obama's PAYROLL.. wthu

No need for anyone to "try" to say what he is, it's plain as day, plus anyone can just look at all his agendas. Those match too.
If it was any more obvious, it would bonk you on the head..

OP, as for the Ukraine, the best way to know the truth there is to watch for comments from people living there.

Blackmarketeer So did Palin blame George W. Bush or accuse him of being "indecisive" when Russia/Putin invaded Georgia in 2008? No, of course not. This it the typical right-wing blame game. During Katrina Bush went hunting. Russia invaded Georgia? Bush was playing volleyball. Ukraine? Obama is calling Putin. Guess who they blame? (*) Seriously, if Repugs want to play a blame game, they should look at their own record regarding the Russian invasion of Georgia that happened on their watch. Personally, I think it's extremely petty to blame the actions of a wanna-be dictator like Putin on Obama or any US president. It's as useless as blaming Chamberlain or FDR for Hitler's invasion of Poland. Putin (and Hitler) are the offending parties, the blame lies solely with them.

Um, I think even Obama has stopped blaming bush for everything.. He must not have sent the memo to ya?

Why deflect all of Obama's wrong doings by naming all of Bush's wrongdoings? It is Obama in the pilot seat now. Sure Bush is guilty of all sorts of trash, but Obama was plenty eager to grab that baton from him and triple down on all of Bush's bets.. Look at him go, Obama thinks it is a contest to see who can do the most nation building and start the most fights/wars. HE LOVES IT

Although Palin may or may not have said those words in a predictive way i dont think anyone can disagree (although some may) to Tom "crystal balls" Clancys Ghost Recon prediction of the Georgian war with Russia.
I wonder if old crystal nutz had any predictions for Ukraine?

Crstystal ball Clancy

Sarah Palin can see Ukraine if she is standing on her roof.

rupertg
Sarah Palin can see Ukraine if she is standing on her roof.

You do know that Alaska shares a maritime border with Russia right? The closest point is about 50 miles and as Governor of Alaska she deals directly with the governor of the Russia areas on their side. Alaska has mutual aid agreements with Russia for maritime issues, as they do with Canada.

Prior to Obama being in Office, she had more executive experience / foreign diplomatic experience than Obama did, as well as McCain (executive experience).

Knock her all you want, what she stated then is valid now.

I find it funny that, in general liberals want to be this all inclusive party, yet constantly make fun of people who show intelligence to them on something they don't agree with / see themselves.

Maybe if the dems spent a bit more time listening and less time acting like elites the message would not get missed as many times as they do now.