Cruise ship worker raped woman, tried to toss her overboard, FBI says

What is up with the goings on aboard these cruise lines? Is it not bad enough that everyone is getting a case of food poisoning? Now we have to read about crap like This.

I've had my suspicions that the crew is venting frustration on their captive audiences. I wanna know why the captain didn't exercise maritime law and just hang this SOB.

I'm so ANGRY I'm just gonna stop.

reply to post by Snarl


please cite the authourity of a ships master to hang someone

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These ships are terrifying.

If she was throw over guess what

They dont even report you as missing

My cousin worked on one

First thing the doc told her. Dont sleep with anyone as most of the crew has some sort of std

She made it one trip then quit

Ill try and find the story ofthe lady who was killed and the liner just ignored it

www.azcentral.com...

And a great site here


www.cruiseshipdeaths.com...

reply to post by Snarl


Why not keel haul the little cretin? I understand law and jurisdiction gets almost silly stupid when it comes to these floating cities, while off shore and crossing through or near so many changing jurisdictions. I understand they use that to their own advantage often enough in creative reporting of incidents .. or failure to report some things at all sometimes.

I once wanted to experience a cruise for the overall adventure. Now...I think I'll stick to safer things, like urban backpacking downtown St Louis or perhaps Detroit in the middle of the night. Even a Friday night ought to be a bit safer than those little islands of lawlessness.

A person could get hurt with 'the abyss' always just a few feet away in the form of a railing and crew willing to help someone over it.

Another_Nut
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These ships are terrifying.

If she was throw over guess what

They dont even report you as missing

My cousin worked on one

First thing the doc told her. Dont sleep with anyone as most of the crew has some sort of std

She made it one trip then quit

Ill try and find the story ofthe lady who was killed and the liner just ignored it

MOst ships are registered in foreign ports and do not care if something happens on board one if its kept hush hush. The cruise industry needs LAW on those ships. they need Federal marshalls on them too apparently if they leave out of american ports. The whole problem is because of the outdated rules of the sea. the international community needs to set rules for them out beyond their territorial waters and laws that applly no matter where they dock or sail.

reply to post by Snarl

Where and when did this happen?, please include a source for this claim.
second line. sorry, i missed the link.

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but laws don't work. they don't work in countries.
i wonder what laws will apply in space also?

Snarl
What is up with the goings on aboard these cruise lines? Is it not bad enough that everyone is getting a case of food poisoning? Now we have to read about crap like This.

I've had my suspicions that the crew is venting frustration on their captive audiences. I wanna know why the captain didn't exercise maritime law and just hang this SOB.

I'm so ANGRY I'm just gonna stop.

thanks for the post Snarl,
I have a buddy who is on his honeymoon this very minute on one of those cruise ships. I worry about him and his new wife day and night. The outbreak of God knows what, food poisoning (as you mentioned) and all the behind the scenes criminal behavior...

can''t say I would ever go on one....

taoistguy
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but laws don't work. they don't work in countries.
i wonder what laws will apply in space also?

Sorry try that again. So laws that put killers away dont work? LAws that allow people to move freely dont work? Laws that save th elives of people from time to time dont work? You are either being funny or naieve or trolling.

yuppa

taoistguy
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but laws don't work. they don't work in countries.
i wonder what laws will apply in space also?

Sorry try that again. So laws that put killers away dont work? LAws that allow people to move freely dont work? Laws that save th elives of people from time to time dont work? You are either being funny or naieve or trolling.

laws have not stopped people being killed, robbed and raped.
court justice puts ome of those people behind bars.

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Oh dear, how would you ever fill the slot for that duty? A federal agent assigned the dirty, ugly job of riding cruise ships from one port to the next? lol......

Seriously, I think you'd have people line up for that work. It'd make sense too... Carry US citizens from US ports? You carry a US federal agent of some form to service the needs of those US citizens outside the country...like when crew try to throw them overboard.

taoistguy
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but laws don't work. they don't work in countries.
i wonder what laws will apply in space also?

Space Law:

The United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs is the Secretariat for the Legal Subcommittee of the United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space (COPUOS), which is the primary international forum for the development of laws and principles governing outer space.

www.oosa.unvienna.org...

OT: Maritime Law, Shipping Law, Admiralty Law... Yeah stuff that I wouldn't be reporting deaths if I were a Captain...

Does that make me a Pirate?

Ahhh the slave liners.

It does not surprise me in the slightest that crazy violent people like that are on cruise ships. They are a recipe for disaster, you have extremely low paid, over worked, cramped workers whipped all day serving the same drunk assholes for months at a time.

This has been going on for a long time and is not an isolated incident, cruise ships need an overhaul, the "hotel" owners that run then can get away with all sorts of horrible # they could on any main land.

It takes a special and strange person to want to work on one or be a guest imo.

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NOTHING will stop those things you mentioned until humans are all dead. The law though is for punishment and revenge. So you would just have anarchy with no one in control of anything right? Yes I was correct you are Naive and obviously are not very well versed on punishments and laws. Did "the man" snub you somehow? Is this why you think Laws are in effective? Laws keep the LAw abiding Law abiding.

Its not perfect but its a hell of alot better than anarchy and chaos.

Wrabbit2000
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Oh dear, how would you ever fill the slot for that duty? A federal agent assigned the dirty, ugly job of riding cruise ships from one port to the next? lol......

Seriously, I think you'd have people line up for that work. It'd make sense too... Carry US citizens from US ports? You carry a US federal agent of some form to service the needs of those US citizens outside the country...like when crew try to throw them overboard.

Yes exactly what i was thinking. How many crewmen would try to hurt someone knowing there was a law enforcement on board that is liable to shoot them? A whole lot less i am sure.

yuppa
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NOTHING will stop those things you mentioned until humans are all dead. The law though is for punishment and revenge. So you would just have anarchy with no one in control of anything right? Yes I was correct you are Naive and obviously are not very well versed on punishments and laws. Did "the man" snub you somehow? Is this why you think Laws are in effective? Laws keep the LAw abiding Law abiding.

Its not perfect but its a hell of alot better than anarchy and chaos.

what?
sorry, but i can't quite grasp the tone of your post.
and you are mistaken that anarchy means chaos.

As if the rape wasn't bad enough! Yeah, I bet boat rape/murder happens a lot. No way to find out way out on the ocean like that. It's quite macabre.

Most workers on cruise ships are treated like slaves from the third world - and in fact, many are foreigners working for very low wage. I have a transient friend who worked on one and said it was bad working conditions, all the while the rich customers on board are treated like royalty.

I guess the workers just need access to some good porn or something...