Father and daughter upset by a classroom poster that listed sex acts

tothetenthpower
Don't get me wrong, the whole 13 yr thing is too young for teaching sex acts like that. I wanna make that clear. 15 or 16 though, when honestly, most kids are sexually active in one way or another, is OK with me.

But yeah...this is the job mostly of parents, but we hardly have parenting anymore.

When I was 13 we had this girl Jenna who used to teach everyone those sex acts, she in our grade but developed early. But yeah, not all of us got the practical exam and had to stay at home practicing theory with the "learning materials" we found in our uncle's hidden stash.

If teenagers are going to go perform anal as soon as they figure out what it is, then I have a feeling they were going to anyway. Kinda like Jenna. Damn hussie. (that didn't like me).

reply to post by WeRpeons


I can promise you that if we'd had cell phones and the internet back then, we'd be sending pictures of our 'goods' over the air waves as well .

Access to information, although a beautiful thing, also means our quick witted and deeply intelligent youth are going to get at all the things we've been telling them were terrible.

They are calling our bluff and quickly realizing that most of what we've feared into them as a society is total bs.

All we can do now is be stewards. Educate them, guide them and try our damn best to make good adults out of them.

Trying to control their behavior or access to information in today's day and age is nonsense IMO.

~Tenth

reply to post by iRoyalty


Why not anal specifically?

I agree having it on a poster permanently on the wall, would not have been the way i would have gone about sexual education lessons for young teenagers if i had been the head teacher at a school.

But as part of structured and maturly approached and above all responsible and respectful sexual education lessons for young teenagers, which like it or not, most of whom will quite soon be engaging in at least some, perhaps all of the sexual practices listed on the poster, i don't see why a specific sexual activity ought to be excluded from the information being taught.

Anal sex for some is a definite no-go for them personally, for many others it is a regular part of their sexual activity, and increasingly so these days. (although perhaps not in bible belt areas i suspect, but who knows?)

For those who do not practice certain aspects of sexuality, it's important to realise we're all different and have different tastes in sex, and it is healthy to make make teenagers *who may themselves* engage in those aspects, aware of possible dangers associated with them, and how to stay safe if they do decide to engage in them.

Sounds melodramatic i know, but people can suffer from being wrapped in cotton wool and have important information kept from them.

Safe sex and sexual development is fine.

But specific sex acts why? Why do they need to learn them? Especialy if they already know them anyway. What the point? Let them work that bit out.

What next? Live actors to demonstrate these acts in class? Class practicals?

reply to post by 727Sky


Here's the best part:

"According to the publisher's website, the goal of the program is:
'...to empower young adolescents to change their behavior in ways that will reduce their risk of pregnancy and HIV or other STD infection. Specifically, this curriculum emphasizes that young adolescents should postpone sexual activity and that practicing abstinence is the only way to eliminate the risk for pregnancy and STDs, including HIV.''"

www.breitbart.com...

Of course. It promotes abstinence. I guess that makes it okay, then.

reply to post by MysterX


These kids are graduating functionally illiterate and the focus is on sexual acts to the point of being explicit?

How heavy is the teaching of the sexual diseases...what THOSE look like? I imagine seeing bodies with advanced stages of a few, leaving AIDS totally out of the discussion, would take all the fun out of those posters ....as it needs to be in an educational environment.

I say, leave the posters like that to the outside walls of dirty book stores...and even that wouldn't necessarily fly in some communities.

Education is suuuure coming to mean radically different things in the American system...as we fall further and further down the rankings for Math, Science and Reading ability among HS Graduates. (sigh)

MysterX
reply to post by iRoyalty

 

Why not anal specifically?

I agree having it on a poster permanently on the wall, would not have been the way i would have gone about sexual education lessons for young teenagers if i had been the head teacher at a school.

But as part of structured and maturly approached and above all responsible and respectful sexual education lessons for young teenagers, which like it or not, most of whom will quite soon be engaging in at least some, perhaps all of the sexual practices listed on the poster, i don't see why a specific sexual activity ought to be excluded from the information being taught.

Anal sex for some is a definite no-go for them personally, for many others it is a regular part of their sexual activity, and increasingly so these days. (although perhaps not in bible belt areas i suspect, but who knows?)

For those who do not practice certain aspects of sexuality, it's important to realise we're all different and have different tastes in sex, and it is healthy to make make teenagers *who may themselves* engage in those aspects, aware of possible dangers associated with them, and how to stay safe if they do decide to engage in them.

Sounds melodramatic i know, but people can suffer from being wrapped in cotton wool and have important information kept from them.

Just because it's pretty hardcore! Like it's awkward enough explaining normal sex to children, let alone why people want to put things in their bums haha

Like I've said, if my kid asked me what anal sex was, I would tell them. But I wouldn't sit little iTimmy down and say "OK son, I'm now going to explain why people like to insert things into their bums"

Wrabbit2000

These kids are graduating functionally illiterate and the focus is on sexual acts to the point of being explicit?

Same in the UK.

Kids are leaving school unable to read or write with little to no skills.

In what world should detailed sex acts be a priority over the three R's?

Schools for learning to read write and do maths not be good lovers.

By the way that what we had in my school for sex ed, dieased photos of gentiles writh with VD's. Its hard to get the image of a purple and black puss ozzing penis, put a very healthy fear in us.

They didn't have sex ed.when I was in school, my mother had the talk with me, it wasn't necessary to talk about positions.

Like my son says who did get sex and drug ed.,all that ever did was make him more interested in trying it.

I think it is important to speak with kids about certain things but they are taking it to a new level.

crazyewok
What the hell?

This has no place in a school.

That stuff is for learning on your own. Not a schools job.

Absolutely agree 100%

crazyewok
Kids are leaving school unable to read or write with little to no skills.

In what world should detailed sex acts be a priority over the three R's?

You know what i find crazy about UK schools, this: When i left school i knew where the lungs were on a frog, but i didnt know how to do my taxes, fill out government forms properly or how council tax works or really anything about actually living in the country. Madness.

Biigs

You know what i find crazy about UK schools, this: When i left school i knew where the lungs were on a frog, but i didnt know how to do my taxes, fill out government forms properly or how council tax works or really anything about actually living in the country. Madness.

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We had that. How to fill out your benifits form ect
This was 2004.

reply to post by crazyewok


Phew, well at least some do, mine didnt, i left at 16 in 2000

Well we will never see instruction on the real ramifications of sex. The emotional and spiritual aspects. Unfortunately sex is generally taught in public by the fox that lost its tail.....as it were.

Biigs
You know what i find crazy about UK schools, this: When i left school i knew where the lungs were on a frog, but i didnt know how to do my taxes, fill out government forms properly or how council tax works or really anything about actually living in the country. Madness.

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Yes! Exactly right! They don't teach us it for a reason

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Agreed.

These are teenage students right, so they are already telling jokes about this stuff, discussing it with friends and fantasizing about it and some of them are no doubt trying it. So why not dispel rumors and give facts to them now, rather than hide reality from them until its too late and some teen girl is sitting in class pregnant because her boyfriend told her she couldn't get pregnant if she was on top.

It's difficult to protect children by merely shielding them from reality, and its generally not a good idea to let them go into these sexual situations, which they will be going into at that age sooner or later, completely misinformed or uninformed.

reply to post by Titen-Sxull


Maybe they could just pass out the Kamasutra.

Sex education should be about the biology and relationships of reproduction. You know, the stuff that the Sexes are relevant to. It should NOT be about eroticising children with information on a variety of masturbatory practices (anal, oral, etc).

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Honestly wouldn't be that controversial in my eyes, as long as they give some kind of cultural, historical and biological context to it and be sure to reinforce safe and legal sexual practices... especially if it was older students, 16-18. In fact if the students in this case were just a year or two older there really would be no controversy to be found here.

Teenagers do not need protection from sex, they need protection during sex, from STDs and teen pregnancy. They might also need protection from unnecessary guilt put on them by the overly religious and from peer pressure to go farther sexually than they are comfortable with.

We don't need guilt, though I do understand the argument that we don't need encouragement either.

reply to post by Titen-Sxull


Personally, I think teens (13 in this thread's example...not 16 or 18) have plenty going on and raging around inside them for hormones and what is, medically speaking for factual basis, a brain with years of development left to run...without adding official sources to goose the hormones further and distract actual learning in school even more.

Is school for learning the basics in life to actually make it and live as a productive citizen in society ..or is it to indoctrinate into social causes and other pursuits of social agenda? We better figure it out, one way or another. They are are NOT getting the academic learning ..and they aren't really coming out better for the social either, the way it's being mickey moused. One or the other, but frogger always lost to traffic eventually, playing the middle.

reply to post by Titen-Sxull


The last thing on my mind at thirteen was sex.

Even when I started dating I didn't want sex, the attention, the hugs and kisses, the act, no.