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Some information in the context of theories surrounding Stealth craft and Plasma effects that may have been involved in RFI

The way technology migrates from classified weapons programs to everyday life is the theme of my book, Weapons Grade. (Did I mention it was out in paperback this week?) We wouldnt have jet aircraft, computers or satellite communications without such programs. But when they stay secret, the public benefit is lost. What would have happened to the electronics industry if the transistor had not been declassified in 1949?Plasma aerodynamics offers tantalizing promises of improving aircraft performance. By producing a thin layer of charged particles around an aircraft you can change the behavior of the boundary layer, significantly reducing friction. The charged layer also absorbs radar, improving stealth.When my colleague Justin Mullins wrote about the subject for New Scientist magazine back in 2000, it seemed to be an obscure Russian technology dating from the late 70s which the US was just beginning to examine. But it offered real benefits, with a potential drag reduction of up to 30%.

A cut in drag of 1 per cent means you can increase an airliner's payload by about 10 per cent, or it could simply fly farther or faster, Mullins pointed out, Just imagine the effect this could have on cash-strapped airlines.

The Russians seemed to be years ahead, even marketing a plasma stealth add-on device said to reduce radar returns by a factor of a hundred.
He concludes by wondering if the technology can actually work in practice.

Either the new labs are a huge waste of time and money, or the American military knows something we don't.

www.military.com...-ngZs.facebook

In the context of the theories surrounding the interest of Soviet Parapsychological programs/theories and experiments that seemed to interest to the CIA, even with some of the speculative review carried out in 1975.

NOVEL BIOPHYSICAL INFORMATION TRANSFER MECHANISMS 1976.

Some of the theories were not considered BS at the time, apparently.
(see PDF pg 10: Introduction, Conclusions, Overview.)

www.cia.gov...

a reply to: AdamE

Hey Adam,

I hate to cover old ground that I've mentioned on here before but I think you've missed a treasure trove The plasma thing is something I've shown to have been experimented on in the UK, around the time of the RFI.

Watch the documentary I posted, Greenglow. Even read the Greenglow book by Dr Ron Evans.

You'll find three people, Dr Evans, working at the UK's own 'skunkworks'. the late Professor Brian Young of Salford University and Dr David Markus . Markus is an alias, and whilst there was involvement on his part, I'd take how much as not confirmed.

Nick Cook, of Jane's Defence Weekly, starts receiving messages about anti gravity in the early 90s from Dr David Marckus.

There are also UK Anti Gravity events, some of which were co-organised by UK ufologist, author and environmentalist Graham Ennis. It is here that Nick Cook notes down that he needs to speak more to Dr Marckus, Evans and Young in his research (presumably into the B2 or Aurora - topics of interest at Jane's at the time.

Here is what you find - somewhere between what these three scientists say:

Before Greenglow they were experimenting with using plasma as a control surface for a wing.

If you look at the cover of Dr Evan's 'Greenglow' you will discover that that VTOL craft on the front has green energy coming from it. Dr Evans has spoken how that illustration was used to sell the idea of anti-gravity as a project to his superiors.

In the TV documentary (it may be the book though) - he speaks of how they had the illustration of the anti-gravity craft made up for the project proposal, but it didn't look futuristic enough. So, they borrowed the green plasma glow of a previous project to make it look more exciting. Not scientific at all.

However, it tells you 100% that before 1986 there was work in the UK on trying to use plasma as a control surface.

Consider also that Dr Evans was working on Gravity Radar before Project Greenglow to detect Stealth aircraft.

What surprises me is that none of this is conjecture - versus other sources yet it seems that no one has looked into this. It's documented in books, documentaries and interviews. If BBC Horizon is going to put out a documentary on this - I don't know how much more can be done to make people realise this.

Dr David Marckus meets Nick Cook just outside his home in Bawdsey to discuss this as well.

As a secondary area consider:
- Why was "Dr Marckus" sending reports and books on antigrvity, anonymously to Nick Cook in the mid early 90s?
(Remember at this point Cook had done nothing towards the UFO topic and everything was military. For example his reports on the "F19")
Also Cook meets Evans, Young and Marckus as a Antigravity conference in London

a reply to: ctj83

Yes indeed. Dr. Who (Peter Capaldi) narrated this shortened report. This is not science fiction though.

a reply to: ctj83

Something and nothing Ctj83. John Burroughs had a keen interest in Anderson. Jan 2010 he talks to Andrew Pike about him.

ufowaves.org...

a reply to: ctj83

Plasma Stealth

Now.. it's rather interesting/embarrassing how this came to my attention.

When the BTUFO came by, the "sentient AI' told me that natural plasmas
were getting caught up like fish in a fish net, by plasma coatings on
aircraft, and that this made various plasmas pretty cranky.

So I went and researched the subject and discovered that the coatings part
at least was true.

It's a really bad idea to listen to "critters".

a reply to: ctj83

I thank you for your highlighting this again.

I will concentrate on this aspect for now, as advised.

I am only halfway through the book but will make it my priority to finish.

Meanwhile, on the subject of Greenglow...

"Researchers at the Ministry of Defence (MoD) are reportedly working on devices that could see through walls by sensing miniscule changes in gravity.

As The Telegraph reports, a team at the government's military science labs at Porton Down have made a breakthrough with a device that takes advantage of quantum gravity to map out objects.

By 'freezing' atoms in place with lasers, the team have been able to measure how the particles are affected by the tiny gravitational pulls of objects around them.

After feeding these measurements into a computer, a 3D map of objects around them can be created.

The device, once perfected, would act like a super-accurate radar, possibly capable of detecting movements inside rooms and buildings, even with a wall in the way.

Speaking to the paper, Neil Stansfield from the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory said the device could be used to see underground, potentially having civilian applications if workmen used it to find the location of subterranean pipes and cables.

Significantly for the military, the device would also be un-jammable, unlike existing radar systems. Since the device only measures the gravitational pull on an object, rather than sending out waves, its detection system could not be interfered with as easily.

The team's discovery is detailed in an upcoming BBC Horizon documentary, Project Greenglow: The Quest for Gravity Control, which airs at 8PM on 23 March."

www.independent.co.uk... html

a reply to: AdamE

Neat. Our ability to kill other humans with advanced tech, and to spy and interfere
with their lives is becoming epic.

We are quite the virulent strain.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


From your link:

Plasma stealth technology also faces various technical problems. For example, the plasma itself emits EM radiation, although it is usually weak and noise-like in spectrum. Also, it takes some time for plasma to be re-absorbed by the atmosphere and a trail of ionized air would be created behind the moving aircraft, but at present there is no method to detect this kind of plasma trail at long distance. Thirdly, plasmas (like glow discharges or fluorescent lights) tend to emit a visible glow...

a reply to: The GUT

I know.

That visible glow part is interesting of course.. maybe people have seen that at times..

Now that article was discussing active plasma countermeasures.

I have it on good authority that modern stealth planes use a radioactive paint,
which does a passive form of this technology.

I haven't researched that however.

And finally of course.. never listen to strange plasma beings..

but the fact that the technology is at least experimental is interesting..

Kev

PS: could you be more specific as to your thoughts?

originally posted by: AdamE

Please note BISS applications by 1995.

Status. Various elements in advanced development,
engineering development or procurement. Program
terminated at the beginning of FY95. Remaining
projects transferred to PE#0603228D, Physical Security
Equipment, sponsored by the US Department of
Defense and the Defense Nuclear Agency.
Total Produced. Undetermined.

Application. Prevent intrusion onto or near military
stations, bases and equipment through use of acoustics,
electro-optics, seismic sensors, lasers, radars, and other
detection devices, as well as using directed energy
weapons to repel intruders.
Price Range. Undetermined.

www.forecastinternational.com...

I was listening to an older Corbett Report the other night and part of the conversation was about the TSA body scanners of a few years back and mentioned they utilize THZ waves.

It got me to thinking, again, how all of this technology—especially from black programs—is tested (as it must be.)

When I was checking out your link a couple of things jumped out at me. Beginning with the mention of Kirtland, AFB. Not that that’s necessarily relevant, but it did make me think of Bennewitz and the secret testing there and the utter disregard for people when it comes to “national security.”



More to the point were these topics from your link:

It integrates newly developed and existing nondevelop- mental items (NDI) into a system capable of incrementally delaying the approach to, and ultimately denying an adversary access to, high value military resources. The system includes both passive and command activated barrier or weapon subsystems which will be fully integrated with existing and planned physical security systems. Denial systems were to be initially applied to weapon storage areas...


...The new system was expected to significantly reduce security police manpower requirements by integrating directed energy devices with complementary delay equipment (command and control, detection and surveillance subcomponents). It was thought that when fielded, the system would have minimized reliance on barriers, sensors, conventional firearms and personnel to repel intruders. It was reportedly the Air Force's highest-priority physical security project; however, beginning with FY95, the project was no longer listed...

...In FY87, major activity included continued development of a video storage system, continued development of the Foliage Penetration (FOLPEN) system and the initiation of the development of tactical sensors. TOSI demonstration model test and evaluation also began. By FY88 full-scale development of the RAIDS was initiated. The tactical sensor program was continued.

Link

I imagine some "FOLPEN" systems might use some pretty heavy-duty EM fields too.

SRC engineers develop both airborne and ground-based radars that can detect moving targets through dense foliage.

Our unique foliage penetrating radar capability has been demonstrated in single and double-canopy environments inside and outside the continental U.S. This advanced technology can detect dismount targets moving under heavy foliage, preventing enemy combatants from hiding and engaging in covert operations.

Link

a reply to: The GUT

Thanks for the reference to the TSA body scanners.
That's very useful.

a reply to: The GUT

Hi The GUT.

Thanks for the FOLPEN information.

The link I cannot access. Is this link the same?

FOLIAGE PENETRATION RADAR: HISTORY AND
DEVELOPED TECHNOLOGY
LLouis V. Surgent. Jr.
Army Land Warfare Laboratory
Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland
May 1974

"7he report documents the US Army Land Warfare. Laboratory's Foliage Penetration
Radar Program from its start in May 196C to June 1974. The history of
these developments,which have become known as the FOPEN Technology, is traced
with important decisions that spun off such systems as the Au-matic Alarm
for the PPS-4 and -i Radar documented.


www.dtic.mil...

a reply to: AdamE

Thank you for all the info too, Adam. Yeah, I can't get that link to work. Try this:

www_inc.com/what-we-do/radar-and-sensors/foliage-penetration-radar.html

ETA: No that doesn't either...not sure why??

a reply to: mirageman

I'm not surprised that JB got his VA benefits.

We seem to be getting dosed by any number of THZ sources,
(and other EM Bands)

and when this breaks into the media, there will be hell to
pay.

Kev

a reply to: AdamE

Hi Adam

I am not a moderator of this site. But it is very well moderated and I am afraid seeking this information out is against the rule of the site.

Check out section 15 of the terms and conditions :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'd politely suggest you withdraw the above post.

You will probably receive a message about it from one of the moderators anyway.

I am posting this as I don't think you mean any harm and have contributed in a very respectful manner to the thread. Please see this as a piece of advice.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

This THz and other EM all around us could well be having an impact on every living thing. Perhaps our smartphone addiction is killing us? Who can we trust to tell us the truth?

Don't forget JB claims to have written proof that a weapon was created from the after effects of the events in the RFI. Although the actually wording of whatever he holds may tell a different story if it ever gets released into the public domain.

a reply to: mirageman

It's like the X files TV show.
"We can trust no one".

Btw have you noticed on the new X files
Show that they sucked ATS dry for
Show ideas?

ATS staff should get royalty checks.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

"Nobody Knows for Sure", Kev