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KellyPrettyBear
Now, what 'spiritual' translates to in terms of the laws of physics remains to be seen.
AthlonSavage
Imagine if the Alien race look like insects , locusts and eat meat and have intelligences at least equalling humans. If the government was aware of this do you think they would go disclosing it.?.
KellyPrettyBear
reply to post by beansidhe
I'm at work and the firewall blocks most of my access,
but I think this is one of the links to it:
MOND Report
In any case, here is the full official name of the report:
"Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK Defence Region: Executive Summary’, pub. 2001 by the Defence Intelligence Analysis Staff of the MoD (unclassified)."
Thank you for your letter of 14 July (ref:] on behalf of your ""'""'+i+• of
Haringey, London.
Firstly, it may be helpful if I explain that the Ministry of Defence has no expertise or role in
respect of 'UFO/flying saucer' matters or to the question of the existence or otherwise of
extraterrestrial life forms, about which it remains totally open-minded. The MOD
examines any reports of sightings solely to establish whether what was seen might have
some defence significance. The MOD's only concern therefore, is to establish whether
there is any evidence that the United Kingdom's airspace might have been compromised
by hostile or unauthorized foreign military activity. The MOD is not aware of any official
contact with extraterrestrial life.
KellyPrettyBear
reply to post by tanka418
Are you postulating that the gray alien artificial body is approaching universal? Or what is your theorem?
ItDepends
So, as much as I would love to have some official type of 'Disclosure', the above statement resembles the same statements made by most of 190+ country's on earth. Everyone remains 'open-minded', it says, and as I do, but it still remains....no unequivocal proof that Intelligent ETs have ever visited earth.
Like I said, over 190 country's, over 7Billion people and thousands of years....where is the proof.....it doesn't solely fall upon a few country's like the UK, Russia, France, USA, China, Germany....there are country's all over the planet with billions of people.......why is there no proof?
As someone noted earlier:
A.) Either Intelligent ET's don't exist and have never been here, or,
B.) They are beyond our comprehension, hence not an unwillingness, but rather the inability to explain the anomalies.
tanka418
So, what do you consider "proof".
C.) Terrestrials fail to understand that they can not set the conditions for ET existence; since he fails to meet those artificial standards and expectations, ET fails to exist.
ItDepends
However, with that said, we learn by searching, exploring, questioning, understanding. "Proof" is irrefutable, by definition: Impossible to refute or disprove.
But, if a NEW paradigm came along with new proof, then that would be our next understanding. If you have seen ET's here on earth, actual Intelligent ET's and they are here walking about, and that you have 'bumped' into a few, then cool for you. I can emphatically say, I haven't.
Peace!
it seems reasonable, and logical to presume that ET is about as advanced as Terrestrial Humans, and therefore from nearby. All of the real evidence seems to support this.
So, given that, and the fact that "interstellar capable systems" do currently exist on Earth
It seems quite reasonable to think that ET isn't any "more" than Terrestrials.
tanka418
ItDepends
However, with that said, we learn by searching, exploring, questioning, understanding. "Proof" is irrefutable, by definition: Impossible to refute or disprove.
Did you know that "proof" is only possible in mathematics? And, that it can be "proven" that 1 + 1 = 3?
Proof, in a practical world is something like "compelling" evidence. But, you still haven't said what is "proof" for you? If you can't define that; then "proof" is not possible. And, THAT is what I suspect is the problem with "proving" ET.
But, if a NEW paradigm came along with new proof, then that would be our next understanding. If you have seen ET's here on earth, actual Intelligent ET's and they are here walking about, and that you have 'bumped' into a few, then cool for you. I can emphatically say, I haven't.
Peace!
Unless you live in the "Outback" you have "bumped" into ET as well. The probability is on the order of 1 chance in about 10 million. That is based on the most recent exoplanet data.
ItDepends
Not to be argumentative, but, I believe you are slightly confused. Proof is irrefutable. It is qualified through scientific experiments. Mathematical Calculations can also prove something is correct.
You say 'ET', are you talking Intelligent ET life? Something almost as intelligent as homo sapiens, equal to or greater than. I'm not debating that life, somewhere in this vast universe exists, perhaps in microbial form.
If they're here, why not the "Outback" too. If they were here, we would not be questioning it, it would be a known fact, understood, proven, and known as an irrefutable truth, just like the sea, the land and the sky. Irrefutable and an accepted truth.
What is "accepted" as proof in virtually all scientific instance is overwhelming probability.
KellyPrettyBear
reply to post by tanka418
What is "accepted" as proof in virtually all scientific instance is overwhelming probability.
You are right there. You are also right that we can't 'prove' exactly
what we share or don't share this planet with yet, especially if
they are intelligent, advanced and don't want to be found.
I generally disagree with your positions, but not always.. we all
say true and untrue things.. it's not good to categorize anyone
whatsoever as all wrong or all right.
Let me ask you a question there big guy.
Why do you think that humans are some perfect form or something
like that, and why do you think that humans are 'ascending'? Am
I getting that position right?
Thanks,
KPB
Humans are, or I should say, "appear", to be closer to the physical endpoint of evolution than any other species.