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signalfire
I wonder what this says about us as a culture; "9 billion broiler chickens, 113 million pigs, 33 million cows and 250 million turkeys consumed each year in the U.S", the vast majority of them treated inhumanely while alive, then dispatched by someone hired by us, the 'consumer' to do this on a daily basis. To kill for us, all day long, every day of their working lives.
And what does it say about those who will simply state, 'but I lurve me a good steak!'; usually these are the same people suffering from heart disease caused in no small part by the difficulty involved in assimilating animal lard and suet into the human body and burning the extra calories off again.
The Stomach Churning Reason Why Our Meat Is So Cheap
intrepid
It's nice that some here can afford to pay more for their "guilt free" meat, personally having worked in the industry I don't care BUT what about those that can't afford more? What about those family providers that pour over the flyers every week hoping they can feed their families a steak, or a roast, this week? IF it's on sale.
intrepid
reply to post by GuidedKill
Phil, is that you? That's all well and good but over 80% of Americans live in urban areas. Not only do they not have access to hunting en masse but they've never been given the skills to do such.
caitlinfae
I'm a little shocked when you say you don't care. I know you worked in the meat industry, but really....you don't care at all what they go through, is that what you meant? Doesn't it bother you on any level? I'm genuinely interested, not trying to pick a fight.
Advantage
but your gonna get the horns when you try to tell me what I can put in my own body..
MystikMushroom
What if we are simply livestock for a more advanced civilization...?
intrepid
Advantage
but your gonna get the horns when you try to tell me what I can put in my own body..
Huh? Then you proceed to do just that to the rest of us with the rest of this post. @@
intrepid
caitlinfae
I'm a little shocked when you say you don't care. I know you worked in the meat industry, but really....you don't care at all what they go through, is that what you meant? Doesn't it bother you on any level? I'm genuinely interested, not trying to pick a fight.
What they go through are our perceptions, not reality. Chickens are among the dumbest animals on the planet. They REALLY are cattle. They don't care how they are fed or housed as long as they are. As to abuse that may happen, and I wouldn't put it past PETA or similar organizations of quietly promoting it for their agenda. However when you're pumping out X thousands of unit/hour there's not time for that BS. Not to mention the damage to the product. An employer wouldn't tolerate it. So basically I don't buy all this stuff about torture and abuse. Sure there are cases, probably smaller operations but it goes against the bottom line.
caitlinfae
reply to post by intrepid
We're not talking about trees though, even if they do feel emotion, they don't have nervous systems. It's a different issue.
I'm also troubled by your assertion that animals don't care how they're fed and housed. In a natural state, they would never choose to put themselves in filthy cages, in cramped conditions...
...and the abuse you're denying is so well documented it's sickening. Maybe it's your sensibilities that limit how you perceive the problems involved, and not the vegans being too sensitive? Denying there is a problem doesn't make it go away.