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Pardon?
The research is being reproduced like this one in which they tried to fully replicate Wakefield's...
www.plosone.org...
Rubinstein
Pardon?
The research is being reproduced like this one in which they tried to fully replicate Wakefield's...
www.plosone.org...
You have to get away from your Big Pharma research, it's the last place you should be looking for good science
"Funding: This work was supported by CDC grant U50 CCU522351"
Pardon?
Rubinstein
Pardon?
The research is being reproduced like this one in which they tried to fully replicate Wakefield's...
www.plosone.org...
You have to get away from your Big Pharma research, it's the last place you should be looking for good science
"Funding: This work was supported by CDC grant U50 CCU522351"
Not a great argument.
Regardless of who funds a study, the study still has to stand up to scrutiny and that's the science part.
Saying that, Wakefield's was funded by a grant from the Legal Aid system in the UK to the tune of £55,000 on the behest of lawyers AND his study was far from robust.
So there might just be something in what you're saying, just not how you mean it though.
Your arguments are getting more and more desperate now.
Rubinstein
If you prove that vaccines are causing harm, that's the end for you, no more funding. If people prove harm caused by vaccines it's not for money, they know they'll have the beast of Big Pharma on their case, just as both the chap who proved Thalodomide was harming the unborn and Wakefield have found.
Anyone can make money from being pro-vaccine, but you have to be willing to sell your soul.
Pardon?
Rubinstein
If you prove that vaccines are causing harm, that's the end for you, no more funding. If people prove harm caused by vaccines it's not for money, they know they'll have the beast of Big Pharma on their case, just as both the chap who proved Thalodomide was harming the unborn and Wakefield have found.
Anyone can make money from being pro-vaccine, but you have to be willing to sell your soul.
Ah yes the ones who showed that there were flaws in the mumps component have all been struck-off now as have the ones who wrote the study about the Pandemrix vaccine and narcolepsy.
Oh wait, they haven't at all.
They're still practising, check it out.
I can't find where Widukind Lenz has been ruined by "big pharma" for his involvement in Thalidomide. He seems to have done quite well.
www.whonamedit.com...
William McBride was lauded over his work with Thalidomide, even receiving a CBE as recognition and was even awarded a medal and prize money by the prestigious L'Institut de la Vie of the French Government in connection with his discovery.
He was however a bit naughty with another drug though and was proven to have falsified data to suggest it caused birth defects when it didn't.
For that he was rightly censured.
So once again Baron Von Wrongenstein, you are wrong.
I can use your last line against anti-vaxxers with far more evidence and proof than you can too...
There's BIG money in anti-vax for very little work, just ask Wakefield.
Rubinstein
Wakefield was struck off 12 years after his publication, William McBride (Thalidomide discovery) was struck off 32 years after his discovery. Big Pharma wait patiently to get their revenge. In the meantime don't expect much funding; they fund the people who have a record for providing the results they want.
Akragon
reply to post by luciddream
I KNOW that IF one vaccine causes one case of Autism... that is ONE too many
vorpal22
Akragon
reply to post by luciddream
I KNOW that IF one vaccine causes one case of Autism... that is ONE too many
Really? You are suggesting that even IF vaccines cause autism (which they don't), the devastating effects of an epidemic of measles, mumps, rubella, and other diseases is not offset by a tiny percentage of children (even if it is just one) developing autism?
Rubinstein
The problem is that vaccines are causing Cot Death, Diabetes Type 1, MS, Lupus, Non Hodgkin Lymphoma, Leukemia, Alzheimer's, Asthma, Arthritis and Muscle-Wasting Diseases. They are causing a lot more harm than good.
vorpal22
Akragon
reply to post by luciddream
I KNOW that IF one vaccine causes one case of Autism... that is ONE too many
Really? You are suggesting that even IF vaccines cause autism (which they don't), the devastating effects of an epidemic of measles, mumps, rubella, and other diseases is not offset by a tiny percentage of children (even if it is just one) developing autism?
Rubinstein
The problem is that vaccines are causing Cot Death, Diabetes Type 1, MS, Lupus, Non Hodgkin Lymphoma, Leukemia, Alzheimer's, Asthma, Arthritis and Muscle-Wasting Diseases. They are causing a lot more harm than good.