Lifestyles of the rich and famous: Obscene wealth inequality at it's worst

Spookybelle
Those with massive wealth are not nearly as sinister as those who think they have a right to dictate how much someone should have.

Eventually you will start dictating what people can eat, how they can dress, and how they should live.

No thanks!

That is usually true.

Also people fail to consider most of these rich folk pay big time into charity for many needy people.

So they are very misunderstood.
It may not be what people 'want' but to the giver its important. Beggars cannot be Choosers either.

The issue here is
Coveting thine Neighbors House

I say build thine own house larger.
Problems are solvable without trampling anyones liberty.

reply to post by Crakeur


Im not denying that wealth distrabution world not work and certain group would still throw money away and be poor.

My objection was you insinuating that everyone who wants change is sloth like and lazy.

I resent that.

I dont care how much someone has. I dont even want there money.

What I want is a limit to the power they have over ME and the infulance they have over politics and the fact they get to live by a double standard of law!

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


And who allows those evil rich to do those things???


Government.

Man, if people would invest the time and effort in making our Govt adhere to the Constitution and BoR, most of these things wouldn't be an issue.

Instead people want to get all pissy about what the Rich have and can do.


Insanity.

mjfan48
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Great idea. The problem is, HOW can the government/society persuade the filthy rich to start researching into long-term projects to benefit future generations? These billionaires have little interest, other than enriching themselves. I also think that most of those very rich persons are above the law of the land, because they can 'buy' almost anything. The rich get richer, the poor stay poor. I belong to the vast majority who are satisfied with life and enjoy a happy retirement, doing what I like, not what one expects of me!

I think ultimately you talk their language, all carrot, no stick.
make their ventures and contributions get a spotlight on them, sing praises, etc..basically cater to their (extraordinarily developed) vanity for their good works and others will seek out that spotlight also. make furthering humanity seem like this cool rich kids club thing to do. I am not fond of the current method of the richies boasting about how many billions they have in the bank, but if someone talked about what they did with their billions and how it has ensured (ending world hunger, made the first transporter, gave everyone on earth a ipad, etc)..well, that is something to boast about.

I just had CNN on and seen something similar to this already. Seems the Buffet brothers have decided to end world hunger, and so are going around all these broken nations and spending crazy amounts of money sorting out farms and such...bingo. suddenly these guys went from shady capitalist kings to proper superheroes with their billions. well done...now we need the rest to follow suit.

Laws aren't necessary, but a blitz of media to enhance perceptions of ultra rich being these protectors, and more to the point, make it a competition to see which wealthy person can contribute most to the civilization, that may gain traction.

In regards to sports stars..they get what their perceived value is. Fans will pay. Hell of a marketing model they got, and works..one reason why I chose not to become a super fan of any sport. Interesting to watch, but unless I got a tenner riding on a game, I normally couldn't care less, generally speaking. Television brings me to the best seats of a stadium, and I can go to a pub for group fun.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


So basically you want to be the determining person/factor as to how much wealth someone can have and how they are to spend it, according to your beliefs.


Doesn't get any more controlling or elitist then that.

Instead of bitching about how someone effects you negatively, why not change how you interact with them and make YOURSELF better.

Only a Progressive can buy into and pitch tearing someone down to try to raise someone else up. Instead of figuring out how to raise everyone up.

reply to post by crazyewok

So the walton family were alowed to come in, disrupt a fragile econemy, make it next to impossible for any hardworking people to set up there own retail stores in the area and on top of that have the nerve to employ these desprate for minimal wage they can barely live on if at all and exploit these people almost like indentured servants. They have the power in this area over 2000 jobs. That 2000 people who wont be able to get a job anywere else and have to reley on the walmart complay for food and shelter. And walmart can do what they like to these people as they cant go anywere else. And thats all so the Walton family can have a few more millions in there already overinflated bank acount.

And everyone in that area was forced at gunpoint to shop at ASDA.

Wait... no they weren't.

Lets not forget who wrote ACA...the healthcare industry in conjunction with insurance companies.

Mandatory insurance for everyone and the prices have gone way up as a result. If this is not an example of croney capitalism then honestly I dont know what is anymore.

How do we stop unethical&immoral forms of lobbying by voting democrat and republican all the time?

Stupid is, stupid does.

I plan on voting for constitution party candidates. Who knew this party even existed? lol

Besides I am not a pure liberal or pure conservative anyway.

macman


And who allows those evil rich to do those things???


Government.

The problem is the Rich normaly are the goverment.

Either cause they are the only ones with enough money to campaign and get any recognition or indircetly through lobying , bribes, old boy networks and blackmail. And thats not to mention most of them have super teams of laywers and most lilley judges in there pockets.

As I said it foxed in charge of a hen house.

The question isn't about envy...

The question should be, if we're as "advanced" as we think we are..then why do we allow a single man to amass 73 billion dollars while there are millions of starving children going days without food?

Something is seriously wrong there.

We need to stop allowing greed to dictate our way of life.

muzzleflash

Spookybelle
Those with massive wealth are not nearly as sinister as those who think they have a right to dictate how much someone should have.

Eventually you will start dictating what people can eat, how they can dress, and how they should live.

No thanks!

That is usually true.

Also people fail to consider most of these rich folk pay big time into charity for many needy people.

So they are very misunderstood.
It may not be what people 'want' but to the giver its important. Beggars cannot be Choosers either.

The issue here is
Coveting thine Neighbors House

I say build thine own house larger.
Problems are solvable without trampling anyones liberty.

How many people's rights did they trample getting it I think it's already been established with news sources and links all over this thread, apparently, you didn't read the entire thread.

reply to post by crazyewok


What you pitch is just that. Collectivism and Progressivism. Did I mention Socialism? Don't think so.


The Govt is the problem, not the rich. Without the Govt and the abuse within the Govt, the Rich would be a dog with a toothless bite.

muse7


The question should be, if we're as "advanced" as we think we are..then why do we allow a single man to amass 73 billion dollars while there are millions of starving children going days without food?

Another good point!

Though im sure peoplelike maceman would say let them starve.

reply to post by LewsTherinThelamon


and they usually do.

take a look at 100 mattress. Guy sees a dial a steak commercial and starts a dial a mattress company. goes on to make a fortune and then, screws it up, and the company goes bankrupt.


the banks weren't allowed to fail because the gov't feared that allowing one of those big banks to fail would result in multiple collapses which would bring the global economy to its knees.

if that happened, guess who suffers the most? I'll give you a hint, it's not the guys on top.

when the economy takes a turn for the worse, companies lay off workers, cut costs and try to keep their profits up by minimizing their costs. they also deal with decreases in demand for their product so they cut more jobs.

they aren't cutting the top executives jobs, nor are they cutting their pay.

they cut the everyman jobs. they cut your jobs. they cut my job.

so, yeah, let em fail and you will suffer more than the wealthy.

if everyone took a 50% salary and 50% wealth hit, the top tier of wealth would still be in their big homes, pooping on their gold toilets.

will you still be where you are?

crazyewok


Yeah its jealousy and sloth-like laziness when its near impossible to start a buisness up.

Yeah, I just started a business up about 5 months ago, a firearms based business.

Even dealing with the ATF (A Govt agency) it was not impossible.
The starting up was only impeded by GOVT, not rich people.

reply to post by crazyewok


SO long as it isn't more money then what you or others deem as unfair.

What a world we live in.

EarthCitizen07
Lets not forget who wrote ACA...the healthcare industry in conjunction with insurance companies.

Mandatory insurance for everyone and the prices have gone way up as a result. If this is not an example of croney capitalism then honestly I dont know what is anymore.

How do we stop unethical&immoral forms of lobbying by voting democrat and republican all the time?

Stupid is, stupid does.

I plan on voting for constitution party candidates. Who knew this party even existed? lol

Besides I am not a pure liberal or pure conservative anyway.

If our government actually lived in fear of us (as they should) that sort of thing wouldn't happen.

But companies can buy off politicians because we are collectively lazy.

We shouldn't be blaming corporations, we should be blaming politicians. If senators, or house reps, or lawyers, or judges, or the executive branch knew that they could potentially face an angry mob and a noose, they might be inclined to think twice before taking a bribe.

We need to re-instill a healthy fear of We the People into our government.

LewsTherinThelamon
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And everyone in that area was forced at gunpoint to shop at ASDA.

Wait... no they weren't.

But most people are lazy and idiots. even if 50% refused to shop that still would not be enough for the small business and they will shut down one by one.

Trh lazy and stupidty of that 50% would in effect negativley affect the smarts ones if they liked it our not. I cant force someone were to shop nor can others like me, so effect they suffer and are reduced to the same sort of serfdom the lazy and ignorant are. Who freedom is to be repected? Those who want slighly cheaper or convient way to shop? Or those who dont want to see there buisnesses go underand be reduced to coperate serfdom and tyranny?

Infact that area has been reduced to sefdom.

crazyewok

muse7


The question should be, if we're as "advanced" as we think we are..then why do we allow a single man to amass 73 billion dollars while there are millions of starving children going days without food?

Another good point!

Though im sure peoplelike maceman would say let them starve.

Unfortunately there are people that only look at a the world as black and white, when in reality the world is 50 shades of gray

macman
reply to post by crazyewok

 

What you pitch is just that. Collectivism and Progressivism. Did I mention Socialism? Don't think so.


The Govt is the problem, not the rich. Without the Govt and the abuse within the Govt, the Rich would be a dog with a toothless bite.

HOW??? Explain this to me, how do we have say over any other government then our own??? We made tougher laws and the wealthy took it overseas where the laws don't protect the people and extort workers there. This is where your point is flawed and fails.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Aghh. Who allowed them to write it??? Who allowed them to propose it????? Who is putting it as law??? and who is going to enforce it??????

Say it with me "government"...Yet the problem is business. *Facepalm*