Lifestyles of the rich and famous: Obscene wealth inequality at it's worst

reply to post by NavyDoc


this is exactly the thing I would do , and should be done a benefit to mankind and the protection of our species

sapien82
reply to post by Cabin

 

what should happen for the super rich , is not a tax on their earnings or their savings or anything like that
there should be a regulation where if they have X amount of money sitting doing nothing

over a certain threshold then this money has to be put to use for the benefit of mankind.

So say A billionaire has 1 billion sitting in his account which is just sitting there making interest and millions a year.
Then this billion should be invested to the benefit of our species !

How about this? Let there be a regulation that confiscates all of our savings, including yours (since we on the internet own the vast majority wealth and resources on this planet) to be invested for the benefit of our species? I don't care if you have $10000 or $10, it's still a lot more than the billions of people who live for less than $2 a day.

reply to post by TheBandit795


Yeah fancy vidio but I dont think you getting the point!

1) Not everyone shares the same ethics. Many will put them aside to gain for themselfs.
2) Most of those at the very top got there through explotation and dishoshty
2) Most those at the very top did not get there money through honnest work, rather through old boy networks, Dishonnest/Illegal practices, explotation or inheritance of fund gained by the former.
3) Money=Power due to haveing good laywers access to better publicity. popularity from being rich, purchessing power, employing people under you to do your biding and down right bribes
4) Those at the top have the power to force there views and ethics on others. They have the power to give and take be it jobs, property or whatever.
5) Those at the top dont play by the same rules. What would get us devstantly fined or put in prison (like tax evasion) get them nothing or such a small fine they dont notice. They are effcetivly above the law!
6) There mistakes and dishonst practices can ripple down and wreck entire lifes due to job losses and economic collaspse (like the finacial collaspe of 2008).
7) Those at the bottom genneraly have to be resposible with our life sand money due to negative effects
8)those at the top dont have to live up to there responsibity due to limit negative effects.

Fact is money=power=Responsibilty

Either the Super Rich have to be made to live up to there responsibilty OR there Power needs to be somehow limited.

Read my thread.

Nothing wrong with haveing money. I have a few million air freinds who gained there money through hard work and play by the rules and have ETHICS Problem is when those with money abuse there power and force negative effects on others. Michael Bloomberg, The Rothchilds, The Rockfellers, Waltons ect

A happy society is a prosperus socity were social mobility is high and poverty is low. USA.UK and alot of Europe do not have this

sapien82
reply to post by NavyDoc

 

this is exactly the thing I would do , and should be done a benefit to mankind and the protection of our species

Plus I like brainy chicks.

sapien82
reply to post by Cabin

 

what should happen for the super rich , is not a tax on their earnings or their savings or anything like that
there should be a regulation where if they have X amount of money sitting doing nothing

over a certain threshold then this money has to be put to use for the benefit of mankind.

So say A billionaire has 1 billion sitting in his account which is just sitting there making interest and millions a year.
Then this billion should be invested to the benefit of our species !

rather than it being taxed by corrupt governments the money should goto some sort of research and development fund for future generations

something cool like that ! where their investment ensures their name is remembered for as long as our species exists , since EGO is the only thing they care about !

I agree the government should not tax such wealth away...history ahs proven that governments do not do the right thing with their tax dollars.

crazyewok
reply to post by TheBandit795

 

Nothing wrong with haveing money. I have a few million air freinds who gained there money through hard work and play by the rules and have ETHICS Problem is when those with money abuse there power and force negative effects on others. Michael Bloomberg, The Rothchilds, The Rockfellers, Waltons ect

A happy society is a prosperus socity were social mobility is high and poverty is low. USA.UK and alot of Europe do not have this

If you look at my threads, you'll see me as on of the most anti-Rockefeller and anti-Rothscild people on this site. But this is not the way to do it IMO. The way to do it is not to force socialism on them because this cronyist (it was never a true capitalist) system we have here isn't working for all our benefit, but just for them.

By using force on others to take away their property you will get perverse or more obscene side effects. Something else is needed.

it's sad that mankind's base instinct is greed, and it's been that way for ages.

"This is my kingdom come."

A another Example of how broken the system is.

I knew a buthcher. He owned his own shop. He earned a honnest living of £40,000 per year. He worked hard and earned every bit his wage.

He lived in the north of Britain in area were the econemy is fragile at the best of times.

ASDA opened up a store (ASDA is the British arm of walmart and owned by the same people). He lost his job and ended up unemployed for 2 years. Eventually he had to work for at Asda as a buthcher for 13K a year......
Now he can barely afford to live and support his family and still releys on goverment hands outs to lives.....

So the walton family were alowed to come in, disrupt a fragile econemy, make it next to impossible for any hardworking people to set up there own retail stores in the area and on top of that have the nerve to employ these desprate for minimal wage they can barely live on if at all and exploit these people almost like indentured servants. They have the power in this area over 2000 jobs. That 2000 people who wont be able to get a job anywere else and have to reley on the walmart complay for food and shelter. And walmart can do what they like to these people as they cant go anywere else. And thats all so the Walton family can have a few more millions in there already overinflated bank acount.

Mugen
Solve this problem, solve the world.

Yes, i'm a prophet.

No, this is not new news.

Money power greed..... #.

I'm close to leaving everything and helping anyone, anywhere, anytime.

me too, Have been giving everything and anything possible away to the poor and needy, from little things like foood, to my new jet tub, to dishes to building materials, my motorhome, my new kitchen sink, dishwashers, and a mobile home and basically we are going to be left with some clothing, only necessities for furniture, and a few dishes etc. After that, we may adjust and give away even more.

Question related to this thread: Why do Billionaires commit suicide?

My answer: Material wealth does not bring happiness... IMO it's helping people and spending time with others (including animals) that brings the most happiness in life.

But, as I have already said we should force others to do so.

reply to post by crazyewok


that is indeed ridiculous. I don't think it matters what kind of system you have in place, nothing will change until there is a mass spiritual awakening of the entire world. Note I said spiritual awakening and not a religious awakening.

reply to post by TheBandit795


Im compliling a thread at the moment on the most sucessful countrys when it comes to a stable econemy and standard of living.

On it are:
Group1
Singapore
Hongcong
Bahamas
Cayman
Group2
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Denmark


Now group 1 and 2 are very diffrein andt prove both free capitlism works and mild socialism.
So there is a solution both ways. There is something Group 1 and 2 have in common that has nothing to do with there govermet or economic policys....brownie point if you work it out But I thinks its the key to success.

I guess what you want depends on the person and one group may be paridise for one and hell for another and vice versa. Being a big world I think there room for BOTH systems as long as they work like Group 1 and 2..

reply to post by crazyewok


I look forward to reading it.

The old elite used to create jobs for the people. Now they just seem to shuffle the money amongst themselves....others of their kind. This is a major flaw in the system, one that needs to be remedies to fix the system. I can't see it happening, the pay scale is all screwed up with more technology replacing the regular worker and imports messing up this countries financial strength. I have nothing against the Chinese people or their government but it is causing a problem with the economic stability of this country. Maybe if they produced quality parts and all the assembly was done in the countries themselves it may work, this way everyone is working everywhere.

This is a hard to fix mess we have got ourselves into. The new elite do not even need us, they make their money in the stock market and other financial scams now, not by the workers. A consumer based economy is not viable, you would think our government would realize that. Maybe congress and the president are just dazzled by the campaign contributions that are coming in and the media is dependent on these contributions to survive.

This whole economy is going to tumble worldwide shortly unless something is done. It should hit just about the time that the superbugs wipe out much of the population. I am talking about within the next few years. I will undoubtedly be one of the casualties.

Greed is an evil thing but what the op is suggesting is another kind of hell. Yeah, down with the rich individual, lets consolidate all power and wealth for the government, that always turns out great. Oh, there were a few mishaps with this approach but they veered from the ideal, this time we'll get it right guys, all you have to do is trust the government...

reply to post by DeadSeraph


I don't see a problem here. It is their money, they can do with it as they wish.

Only Progressives and Big Govt people want to control others on what they do and don't do.

Glad to see that personal freedom is on the decline.

Meh to this thread..

macman
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

I don't see a problem here. It is their money, they can do with it as they wish.

Only Progressives and Big Govt people want to control others on what they do and don't do.

Glad to see that personal freedom is on the decline.

Meh to this thread..

So you dont agree that responsibilty works both ways?

So you dont agree that with money comes power and with power comes responsibility?

And that a big problem is the super rich at the moment dont have to care about responsibility and can abuse there power?

And that a very few rich powerfull people have to much control through money over the rest of us?

reply to post by crazyewok


Yeah, I don't look to the Rich, nor the Poor for free things. They are free to do with their life and money/possessions as they see fit.

These are not superheroes. They are people with money. This whole with great money comes great responsibility is crap.

Their money, their life, their choice. Plain and simple.

macman
reply to post by crazyewok

 

Yeah, I don't look to the Rich, nor the Poor for free things. They are free to do with their life and money/possessions as they see fit.

These are not superheroes. They are people with money. This whole with great money comes great responsibility is crap.

Their money, their life, their choice. Plain and simple.

Im not talking about FREE things. I dont think you read my post even as at no pint did I mention FREE things.


Im talking about is it right fo single people to hold just HUGE power.

Take Bloomberg of NY he basicaly owns a city.
He can force his ideals and ways on to others.


I have no problem with money. My problem is power and when a individual or small group has too much power and exploit me I get angry!

Haveing more money yes.
Surely no one should have any more power than another person?
Surely no one should be above the law ?
Surely one should not have the power to exploit another?
surely one should not have the power to keep another down?


Surely that tyranny and not freedom.

To be honnest they can have a gold toliet and a skyscrapper home if they want. But it when they use there power to keep ME down I get pissed. It when they use there postions to ruin others I get pissed.

Yes we should be free but freedom should hit a line when it starts to impact another. IE No one should be free to murder another or dump waste on another property ect[

You say "Their money, their life, their choice." Well great Im cool with that unless it affects "my money, my life, my choice."

TheBlackHatYou cannot possible amass billions and be a good humanbeing..the two things are completley incompatible.

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