The Crisis at Fukushima's Unit 4 Demands a Global Take-Over

The Crisis at Fukushima's Unit 4 Demands a Global Take-Over

For those that believe that the Fukushima disaster is over, or even not over but continuing....the truth is that the disaster has NOT YET EVEN BEGUN.

In TRUTH...the events of 3/11/11 were only the lighting of the fuse that has yet to burn to the explosion of events that will potentially begin soon. It is possible that this will soon get so big the world will no longer be able to keep their collective heads in the sand.

WIthin the next 60 days a procedure will begin that has the potential of threatening the health of the entire earth. This article does a good job of explaining what is at stake when TEPCO begins the extremely perilous task of removing 400 tons of spent fuel assemblies from the cooling pool teetering above the debris of the #4 reactor.

This threatens not only a fissionable event with approximately 1400 fuel assemblies, it threatens a criticality if the entire pool collapses into a pile. This threatens the ability of humans or even machines from keeping the 6000 fuel assemblies (how MANY tons is that) stored only 50 meters away in cooling containment...and a total of 11,000 fuel assemblies on site, and of course the three melting cores that are as we speak headed to the mantle of the Earth, from multiplying this event into one the size that threatens the health of every creature on this Earth.

Read it. I agree that the entire world needs to be involved with this...that every government of this Earth needs to offer their assistance and any idea we have that can help prevent this disaster needs to be applied.

However...my fear...is that TPTB have already considered this...and see no solution and no way to prevent the oncoming disaster...and are only trying to delay the chaos and panic that will set in when it becomes impossible to hide the truth of the enormity of what has already happened and what is to be.

For roughly the past two years, there have been a steady influx of news articles regarding Fukushima.

I don't know if people don't care, are in denial, think that their armchair expertise will outwit a nuclear reactor, but it's become quite apparent that THIS IS NOT GOING TO JUST FIX ITSELF AND GO AWAY.

It's like people cannot understand that every second of every minute, of every day of every week, for TWO YEARS, the situation has gotten worse.

But hey! Whatever. This disaster has opened my eyes to the apathy and ego of the human race.

I've seen people flip over politics, Miley Cyrus, the NFL, and comet ISON which has been said to be anything from super-benovelent aliens to our Illuminati Replitilian brethren (lol).

But Fukushima?

No outrage. No consolidation as to how to alleviate this issue.

After 2 1/2 years, I would say those 'running the Earth' or either in grand denial or just do not care.

Billions in a bank account won't save someone from the disaster, but maybe they think it can.

I just seems to me that those who have the resources to 'possibly' fix this just don't care. If they did we would not be in this situations.

I have kept up (when I can) with the mega-thread, and have been aware of the dangers still present with that dangling spent fuel pool.

but I wasn't even looking for that story this morning. I found the text and the link to this story on flutrackers while looking for most recent information on the H7N9 bird flu.

For reference, their posting here.

It's a quandry. Do the governments of the world intervene? Can we trust japan to handle this most dangerous of tasks?

Do we risk delaying the process just to have another earthquake come along and destroy any possibility that it can be resolved without irradiating the entire Earth?

I see flags collecting, and few responses. Understandable. Its an almost impossible task to imagine, with enormous consequences to be had with any mistake. My comments are only repeating the obvious to any one with intelligence, and some feel that just repeating it again may not be worth the effort.

But please respond, if only to add your fear, agreement, or even dispute with what I have said. We can't leave this to TEPCO or even Japan.

We have less than 60 days for anyone on Earth to offer a better way. This is NOT doom porn, not some imagined calamity of a rogue comet, or the unknown possibility of WWIII, this is a reality that is not ever going away, a disaster already armed and unfolding, that at this point we can only hope to contain and minimize.

If the world has any ability to insure TEPCO and Japan do this with the greatest precautions possible, the world MUST INTERVENE IMMEDIATELY, and our window to do this is rapidly coming to a close, with no way to turn back once we allow TEPCO to begin the fuel rod relocation.

We only have a short opportunity to contain and minimize, and can only do so with world intervention. Otherwise, leave the fate of the world to the bungling proven ineptitude of TEPCO, and trust they don't break a crane or bump a wall or drop a bundle of rods into that mess and collapse the entire pool into a mushroom cloud and the entire site into a radioactive steam volcano to pollute the world for eons.

If anyone can see that I have exaggerated in the least bit....please tell me NOW. I would much rather be proven of pedalling DOOM PORN than telling the TRUTH.

reply to post by RomeByFire
Well what's going on behind the curtain? yea their not going to interrupt Monday night football but what is being said among nuke types? Its hard to believe no one is helping out in the world wide think tank.

IMHO Its not that people dont care, its that people dont know. I spoke about Fuku to, firstly a friend who is living in Japan teaching English--he is under the impression that as long as he avoids dairy products he will be fine; Then to another friend who is heavily in the activist scene here and he had no idea about the extent of the problem.

I didnt even know the extent of the ELE (it is an ELE, just a slow one!) until reading one very long thread here and looking into the info available.

Agreed: This is a global problem, it requires a global response.

Well, ok, heres the bitter pill......
The situation is TOO MASSIVE for humans to comprehend.....
We dont build earthquake proof buildings in fault zones....We dont build hurricane proof in hurricane zones either....
The FUBAR that is Fukishima is pretty well way beyond the average persons grasp , or ability to alter in any signifigant way......
Im 67, and living on a boat on the west coast.....should i move inland?
..I dont think so......
Lets just take a little stock here.....
theres three or four atomic poles eating their way down beneath Japan....
theres virtually mega tons of spent fuel rods littering the site....(each reactor had a spent rod pool above it...)
Millions of tons of irradiatedwater is being stored there now....with hundreds of tons comming every day to store and the ground contaminated with irradiated water as well......
Maybe it would be net benefit if it did blow up.....
the line is foggy there as to whether or not over the long haul for earth and humans....
The day i heard the containment fiels were breached it was all over.......the rest will drag on for nearly 500,000 yrs......s

lakesidepark

This is NOT doom porn

Indeed. It is doom reality.

I think that answers the questions about why people dont want to confront it... because its real. For realzy real, and that scares people to such a degree they compartmentalize it and stash it in the back of their minds, or the truly adept at denial will simply erase it from their memory all together so they may continue to believe the illusion theyve created of a well structured and ordered, stable society.

I was saying way before I ever heard of any conspiracies that humanity would destroy itself well before any natural catastrophe was likely to occur. I personally always thought that it would be the accidental release of an engineered experimental virus (we all know that # is still going on), or through true global warfare when resources started to dwindle substantially.

But I guess I put way, way to much confidence into humanity that it could AT LEAST kill itself in an interesting, and perhaps exciting, way. It wouldnt be the first time Ive been disappointed in this species... but wow, killing itself via a global cancer pandemic after a recklessly built nuclear plant breaks, distributing radiation around the planet... novel, I guess... but not very exciting... nor interesting.

Not surprising, though, that it might end this way. At least its consistent: the end, like the journey has been, will be a major disappointment and a flagrant squandering of potential, reflecting an emotional and spiritual infancy that humanity refuses to emerge from.

Humanity is strangely immature for the technology it wields. Its a very strange dichotomy... emotionally and spiritually, humanity is at the "mud hut" level of evolution... but technologically, they are at the beginnings of the space-faring level, which ironically they, as a whole, they couldnt care less about.

When things become so unbalanced like this in any system, there is always a balancing event to even out the grossly asymmetric proportions.

Fukushima seems more and more likely everyday to be that event that will balance out the system.

Its unfortunate that so much knowledge, so much culture, and potential, will be lost, yet again. But such is the natural end of embarking on the path of materialism, or the external, while completely ignoring and even outright denying the existence of, the internal aspects that are the guides and the ultimate determinants of destiny.

Its like a tree that says "I will live without my roots, that is how great I am", so it cuts itself from its roots, and hops upon the ground. But without its roots, the slightest breeze will knock it over. Without its roots, it slowly wilts and dies. Its bark becomes moldy, and its limbs dry and brittle. Without its connection to where it began, and indeed from where all its life springs up from, the tree is a helpless victim of its own pride, doomed to slowly die.

a.)
i think it is very arrogant from the Caucasians to think that the Japanese
are unable to solve this Accident by them self!

The US-Americans didn't build a Nuclear Reactor since more than 30 Years,
imo. they are totally outdated and they can't even handle their own
running Reactors!

Many of their Reactor leak Tritium like Fukushima but you are not concerned
about it because you are not informed.

b.)
I hope and i think that the Fuel Problem is much smaller than many of you
imagine but this is normal because you didn't read anything else than what
div. Sites offer to you.

None/ not many of you read the Plan and the Blueprints of Building Nr. 4
and the Fuel, all you read is what Gundershill telling you but
this is only one Side of at least two!

c.) Did anyone of you saw what happened with Reactor 4. and the new
Crane System, do you know that they build a whole new Building
on the Side of the Pool?

I am optimistic that this Mission will get completed with a positive outcome!

reply to post by lakesidepark


I admire your enthusiasm, OP. You may have seen some of what I have written about Fukushima as well. It's the "gift" of doom that keeps on giving. While so many feared and still do fear things like Elenin or ISON, this little beast sits there. Quietly festering and waiting ....like a suspense buildup in a bad movie cut-scene.

I don't think it's that people don't care, either. It's that, over 20 some years now of moving toward 24hr human thinking cycles coming out of the 24hr news cycle? It's a collective, trained ADD everyone seems to suffer from. Fuku is just too old in the news for perception to allow a lot of emotional reaction to....with another crisis (Some other..any other around the world) building at any given moment since Fuku began. Collective 'worry fatigue' could be another way of putting it.

It's a very very bad thing too. In a world of little boys crying Wolf on big B.S. and tall tales? THIS is the cry that actually carries REAL danger to watch for....and it's just lost in the mix of everything else being reported.

** Yes, the world should be invited to participate or TAKE that damn site by military force, if necessary. A screw up there WILL impact every living thing on this planet, so we damn sure ought to have the opportunity to collectively share in the screw up to come.

Human0815
a.)
i think it is very arrogant from the Caucasians to think that the Japanese
are unable to solve this Accident by them self!

The US-Americans didn't build a Nuclear Reactor since more than 30 Years,
imo. they are totally outdated and they can't even handle their own
running Reactors!

Many of their Reactor leak Tritium like Fukushima but you are not concerned
about it because you are not informed.

b.)
I hope and i think that the Fuel Problem is much smaller than many of you
imagine but this is normal because you didn't read anything else than what
div. Sites offer to you.

None/ not many of you read the Plan and the Blueprints of Building Nr. 4
and the Fuel, all you read is what Gundershill telling you but
this is only one Side of at least two!

c.) Did anyone of you saw what happened with Reactor 4. and the new
Crane System, do you know that they build a whole new Building
on the Side of the Pool?

I am optimistic that this Mission will get completed with a positive outcome!

What a ridiculous post (point a, where you lose all credibility in the first sentence). This problem goes a lot further than race and boarders and when did anyone say anything about Caucasians implying Japanese are incapable? We need to work together, as a species. End of story.

reply to post by Human0815


This has nothing do to race! Asian, Caucasian, blue, pink, green or black. This has been spiralling out of control for 2 and a half years with no known resolution (ice wall, humph). The Japanese government run TEPCO has put the entire Earth at risk. It is a FACT.

Human0815
a.)
i think it is very arrogant from the Caucasians to think that the Japanese
are unable to solve this Accident by them self!

The US-Americans didn't build a Nuclear Reactor since more than 30 Years,
imo. they are totally outdated and they can't even handle their own
running Reactors!

Many of their Reactor leak Tritium like Fukushima but you are not concerned
about it because you are not informed.

b.)
I hope and i think that the Fuel Problem is much smaller than many of you
imagine but this is normal because you didn't read anything else than what
div. Sites offer to you.

None/ not many of you read the Plan and the Blueprints of Building Nr. 4
and the Fuel, all you read is what Gundershill telling you but
this is only one Side of at least two!

c.) Did anyone of you saw what happened with Reactor 4. and the new
Crane System, do you know that they build a whole new Building
on the Side of the Pool?

I am optimistic that this Mission will get completed with a positive outcome!

Please provide sources and reference to support your suppositions.

Especially about US reactors leaking Tritium - I'd like to know about that.

reply to post by lakesidepark


I'd like to share a couple of quotes from the article you reference in the OP. About this operation, it's necessity, it's dangers and the need to do it to "perfection". Great ariticle BTW, thank you.

Spent fuel must somehow be kept under water. It’s clad in zirconium alloy which will spontaneously ignite when exposed to air. Long used in flash bulbs for cameras, zirconium burns with an extremely bright hot flame.

Each uncovered rod emits enough radiation to kill someone standing nearby in a matter of minutes. A conflagration could force all personnel to flee the site and render electronic machinery unworkable.

According to Arnie Gundersen, a nuclear engineer with forty years in an industry for which he once manufactured fuel rods, the ones in the Unit 4 core are bent, damaged and embrittled to the point of crumbling. Cameras have shown troubling quantities of debris in the fuel pool, which itself is damaged.

The engineering and scientific barriers to emptying the Unit Four fuel pool are unique and daunting, says Gundersen. But it must be done to 100% perfection.

And it continues:

Should the attempt fail, the rods could be exposed to air and catch fire, releasing horrific quantities of radiation into the atmosphere. The pool could come crashing to the ground, dumping the rods together into a pile that could fission and possibly explode. The resulting radioactive cloud would threaten the health and safety of all us.

And concludes with a plea to the world and each one of us:

Neither Tokyo Electric nor the government of Japan can go this alone. There is no excuse for deploying anything less than a coordinated team of the planet’s best scientists and engineers.

We have two months or less to act.

For now, we are petitioning the United Nations and President Obama to mobilize the global scientific and engineering community to take charge at Fukushima and the job of moving these fuel rods to safety.

If you have a better idea, please follow it. But do something and do it now.

The clock is ticking. The hand of global nuclear disaster is painfully close to midnight.

Again thank you for posting this.

RomeByFire
For roughly the past two years, there have been a steady influx of news articles regarding Fukushima.

I don't know if people don't care, are in denial, think that their armchair expertise will outwit a nuclear reactor, but it's become quite apparent that THIS IS NOT GOING TO JUST FIX ITSELF AND GO AWAY.

It's like people cannot understand that every second of every minute, of every day of every week, for TWO YEARS, the situation has gotten worse.

But hey! Whatever. This disaster has opened my eyes to the apathy and ego of the human race.

I've seen people flip over politics, Miley Cyrus, the NFL, and comet ISON which has been said to be anything from super-benovelent aliens to our Illuminati Replitilian brethren (lol).

But Fukushima?

No outrage. No consolidation as to how to alleviate this issue.

Part of the problem is that people don't fully understand the science behind it all. On top of that, they aren't fully aware of the gravity of the situation, and even if they are, they lack the technical knowledge to offer any solutions. I myself have absolutely no idea how the finer points of nuclear reactors operate, and quite frankly I'm confused as to why there isn't a way to fix the problem. I'm also somewhat confused as to why you would build a nuclear reactor on the shoreline in the first place if this is the sort of thing that can occur and there are no sound contingency plans to deal with it.

I'm all for the governments of the world getting together to help the Japanese people deal with this disaster. I'm not sure why it hasn't happened yet (though I have read that it is a cultural issue and the Japanese don't like asking for outside help). Every time I read about the Fukushima disaster the same issues are spelled out. It's getting worse, it could cause a global catastrophe, etc. But the punchline always seems to be that there is nothing that can be done. That's what I don't understand. Maybe someone with a bit more technical expertise could explain to the rest of us why there isn't a way to tackle the problem? Surely if the governments of the world pooled their resources they could find a way to avert further disaster?

reply to post by 11:11


No!

There is no interest to work with Caucasians and imho. this is justified!

First they should start to fix their own Problems which are not smaller
than Fukushima!

They are (imho.) not needed and not welcome, that simple!

Tritium:

Radioactive tritium has leaked from three-quarters of U.S. commercial nuclear power sites, often into groundwater from corroded, buried piping, an Associated Press investigation shows.

Source:

Much more:
Tritium Water Leaks via Google:

UFO1414
reply to post by Human0815

 

This has nothing do to race!

Well that depends on your perspective. American/European and Japanese relations surrounding atomic power didnt really get off to a good start, you know with the essential nuking for sport of 2 Japanese cities to demonstrate to Russia how big Americas bombs were....

Theres going to be some animosity whenever nuclear energy comes up. Japan WILL remember, and I would not nor will ever blame them. I highly doubt Japan would EVER allow America or Europe to help with Fukushima, even if it meant irradiating the planet, and thats who I think this person is referring to by "Caucasians".

If Im wrong and he just means whites in general 'cause he dont like them, then @ the acceptable double standards of racism.

Human0815
reply to post by 11:11

 

No!

There is no interest to work with Caucasians and imho. this is justified!

First they should start to fix their own Problems which are not smaller
than Fukushima!

They are (imho.) not needed and not welcome, that simple!

Tritium:

Radioactive tritium has leaked from three-quarters of U.S. commercial nuclear power sites, often into groundwater from corroded, buried piping, an Associated Press investigation shows.

Source:

Much more:
Tritium Water Leaks via Google:

Thank you, I needed this information.

However, your point about accepting help from White People or others (can't spell Caucasions right), having been born in Tokyo and learning from my parents of the culture - I understand it, but - this catastrophe is beyond any one group of people and, frankly, the Japanese are befuddled. We need to work together - all colors and cultures.

reply to post by Human0815


With all due respect to you as a human - not as a Japanese person...I stated the world. This is the world's problem, not the Japanese's problem, and it needs to be treated as such.

i consider it the height of arrogance for any Japanese to act as if they own this problem. And consider it insulting for you to take it as a 'race superior' statement.

The japanese do not have all the answers. neither do the U.S. or for that matter anyone on this earth.

My feverent wish is that all of the world will take this on, and for that to happen, the Japanese have to let go of their own superiority complex, accept their embarrassment over this major failure, accept that they may not have all the answers and realize all of Earth have a stake in what happens next, and all of Earth needs to offer all they can for a solution.

Quit trying to hide the damage, and minimize the dangers. It is quite possible the Japanese have the best answer - but in an event with the potential magnitude of failure as the next operation that takes place there to solve this problem, it is only fools that would not ask and DEMAND that all of the Earth's peoples be allowed to observe, advise, and help as MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.

This includes caucasians (U.S , Europeans, Russians, and who else), the rest of the asians, the muslims, the africans, native americans and eskimos, jewish, spanish and hispanics...and who did I leave out???

It's not a racial thing, and to even suggest such is insulting. it is a HUMAN thing. that includes you....and every living soul on this planet.

Thats why the world should be involved. Because the world is at stake.

Well. Well. Well. I tuned into Alex Jones' live Sunday show replay just now. Alex was not there, was at a wedding, but his stand in, David Knight, was talking about the Crisis at Fukushima, and how much of a global threat it was.

I only came in on the end of his comments, so didn't hear the whole thing. OK there was a commercial and David is still talking about nuclear power plants and how some of them are leaking and the great concern about nuclear fuel.

I am surprised to hear this being discussed on Alex's show. Still talking about it now, if you listen to Alex, tune in tonight to hear the replay, it's into Hour two now, about midway thru.

Wake up world~~ this is something we CANNOT ignore, all of our lives are at stake.