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soundguy
reply to post by qmantoo
I am pretty sure I have that in my archives. I don't post here much and I will be away from the computer that houses that one for a few days. If no one comes up with it before hand I will gladly post it. I also have the majority of video and photos from the first several months too if that ever becomes hard to come by.
SAPPORO--A ruling party executive has called on the government to candidly specify areas contaminated with radioactive materials from the devastated Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant where evacuees who hold out hopes of going home can never return.
“The time will come when someone must say, ‘You cannot live here anymore, but we will make up for it,' ” Shigeru Ishiba, secretary-general of the Liberal Democratic Party, said in a speech here on Nov. 2.
He effectively called for reversing a government policy of eventually allowing all evacuees to return to their homes.
Ishiba did not mention any candidate areas, but was apparently referring to the most heavily contaminated category among the three types of evacuation zones.
The "difficult-to-return zones," where annual radiation doses exceed 50 millisieverts and evacuees are not allowed to return for at least five years from March 2012, were home to 25,000 people before the Fukushima No. 1 plant was crippled by the March 2011 Great East Japan Earthquake and tsunami.
Ishiba also called for a review of the government’s long-term goal of reducing the annual additional radiation exposure for residents to 1 millisievert or less through decontamination efforts.
CHIBA – Chiba Prefecture urged residents Monday not to go outside because levels of the toxic air pollutant PM2.5 might exceed the provisional guidelines set by the government.
It was the first PM2.5 warning issued in the greater Tokyo region under the new alert system instituted in March.
The hourly average density of PM2.5 between 5 a.m. and 7 a.m. topped 85 micrograms per cubic meter, meaning it could exceed the daily average limit of 70 micrograms specified by the guidelines, the prefectural government said.
Densities of 88 micrograms to 127 micrograms were measured at three points in the city of Ichihara, it said, adding the cause of the rise is unknown.
Japan secrecy act stirs fears about press freedom, right to know
(Reuters) - Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's government is planning a state secrets act that critics say could curtail public access to information on a wide range of issues, including tensions with China and the Fukushima nuclear crisis.
CHILLING IMPACT "This may very well be Abe's true intention - cover-up of mistaken state actions regarding the Fukushima disaster and/or the necessity of nuclear power," said Sophia University political science professor Koichi Nakano. Legal experts fear a broad impact on the media's ability to act as a watchdog. "It seems very clear that the law would have a chilling effect on journalism in Japan," said Meiji University's Repeta.www.reuters.com...
Human0815
reply to post by pheonix358
You should read my Postings with more Attention
because it would spare your Questions!
Silverlok
reply to post by Purplechive
an (cg) animation does not count as scientific ( or any other kind of ) information . In this day and age to not have real video up front for something this huge is a massive (yet again) failure...but since this is standard procedure with the U.S. controlled (nuker industry as a whole) Japanese government/nuclear industry revolving door Tepco; it is what one would expect.
This 'new because the oldthread was unweildly' thread has definitely lost that scientific vibe ..curious given the seriousness of the NEED FOR TRUTH in this situation .
HUMAN honshu is fubar...sorry
Tokyo is now the doomed megalopolis ...even if it was only air contamination from a one time event..but bio, and civic accumulation have doubled down the near term and the long term is deposition of the saturation of the upper atmosphere...not to mention the oceanic effects
on top of that Tepco/government/military corporate establishments have not ,historically,now, even remotely honest about the danger...from fuku and EVERY OTHER NUKER IN THE WORLD WITH OVERFLOWING POOLS
so..lets do some science;
fuku is one plant with six reactors and six pools, it did not have enough cooling for normal operations let alone emergencies.
Fuku's spent storage pools have ( so we are told ) four decades worth of "spent" (waste) RODS ...
so does every U.S. plant.
there is no plan for what to do with it
dry casks are ( by nrc regulation ) only good for one hundred years ( most have been found to fail within 30 years ) ,but 'spent' rods stay radioactive for over 200,000 years
the entire nuker /military /industrial complex did not make public ( if they knew) that surface boiling from corium ( melt down products) releases uranium and plutonium into the environment at super sub-micron levels ( even possibly single atoms ) and that it IS IMPOSSIBLE TO EVER COOL A MELT DOWN BECAUSE OF THIS ...even if that melt is in a pool ( totally UNSHIELDED ) o core )
so ...the science is...after all this time....what ?
..well from what we've seen obfuscation has become "science" ..or as some would have it "the discussion"
LittleBlackEagle
seems it may become even more difficult to get any "real" data out of Japan, since good old uncle Abe is trying to silence the masses. i guess the Japanese people are pretty much irrelevant in their own country these days, don't worry, we know the feeling in the USA.
Japan secrecy act stirs fears about press freedom, right to know
(Reuters) - Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's government is planning a state secrets act that critics say could curtail public access to information on a wide range of issues, including tensions with China and the Fukushima nuclear crisis.
CHILLING IMPACT "This may very well be Abe's true intention - cover-up of mistaken state actions regarding the Fukushima disaster and/or the necessity of nuclear power," said Sophia University political science professor Koichi Nakano. Legal experts fear a broad impact on the media's ability to act as a watchdog. "It seems very clear that the law would have a chilling effect on journalism in Japan," said Meiji University's Repeta.www.reuters.com...
don't you just love the timing of this BS, just before they begin the rod removal.
Japan may as well kiss it all goodbye with this type of non leadership.
matadoor
LittleBlackEagle
seems it may become even more difficult to get any "real" data out of Japan, since good old uncle Abe is trying to silence the masses. i guess the Japanese people are pretty much irrelevant in their own country these days, don't worry, we know the feeling in the USA.
Japan secrecy act stirs fears about press freedom, right to know
(Reuters) - Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's government is planning a state secrets act that critics say could curtail public access to information on a wide range of issues, including tensions with China and the Fukushima nuclear crisis.
CHILLING IMPACT "This may very well be Abe's true intention - cover-up of mistaken state actions regarding the Fukushima disaster and/or the necessity of nuclear power," said Sophia University political science professor Koichi Nakano. Legal experts fear a broad impact on the media's ability to act as a watchdog. "It seems very clear that the law would have a chilling effect on journalism in Japan," said Meiji University's Repeta.www.reuters.com...
don't you just love the timing of this BS, just before they begin the rod removal.
Japan may as well kiss it all goodbye with this type of non leadership.
"Stop looking at this crisis citizen, we are taking care of it."
I'm not sure if this is the scariest thing I've yet read on the subject or not. It ranks in the top 2 if not.
Additional comment.
In the event that some of the rods break/fall/heat up/explode there isn't much the government can do to keep that quiet. The radiation release will be so massive, they will have to evac the entire area, so you can only keep it SO quiet before it announces itself.edit on 4-11-2013 by matadoor because: too dumb to not post the entire message. I love how this works. I can add what I want here. Excellent.
matadoor
"Stop looking at this crisis citizen, we are taking care of it."
I'm not sure if this is the scariest thing I've yet read on the subject or not. It ranks in the top 2 if not.
Additional comment.
In the event that some of the rods break/fall/heat up/explode there isn't much the government can do to keep that quiet. The radiation release will be so massive, they will have to evac the entire area, so you can only keep it SO quiet before it announces itself.edit on 4-11-2013 by matadoor because: too dumb to not post the entire message. I love how this works. I can add what I want here. Excellent.
Human0815
reply to post by wishes
We created Workgroups who follow just one specific Topic,
one Group is looking for Radiation in the Air& Soil,
another one look for the technical Aspects,
one Group look for the Evacuees, etc.!
One Group verified the official Radiation Measurements with
Scintillators and Pancake Devices they found no big Differences,
+/- 15% in the last 1/4 Year
The other Group is the medical Group who work in Hospitals,
Nurseries and Retirement-places, they do not observe any Spike
in the last 4 Months.
Well Organized here and i like this Model because the benefit for
all is guaranteed!
matadoor
LittleBlackEagle
In the event that some of the rods break/fall/heat up/explode there isn't much the government can do to keep that quiet. The radiation release will be so massive, they will have to evac the entire area, so you can only keep it SO quiet before it announces itself.edit on 4-11-2013 by matadoor because: too dumb to not post the entire message. I love how this works. I can add what I want here. Excellent.
...... there's an assumption here that in the likely even there's problems with rods breaking/falling/exploding that 'they' would tell anyone anyway..... surely what they don't know won't hurt them! (sarcasm)
Human0815
reply to post by wishes
There was no significant discrepancies found
between the Official Readings and the Test Results.
Everyone is free to check the Official Readings from
the meteorological Institutes and MEXT via the Internet!
The medical Group do not observed any "Radiation Introduced Symptoms"
like your mentioned ones, no change in the Composition of Blood Cells!
And our Groups are nothing Official,
just Groups of concerned People who are critical with
the Officials!
I wish you would be as critical with H. Caldicottedit on 4-11-2013 by Human0815 because:
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