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Bluntly, its a forum to discuss the political and conspiracy issues of the day, and not one to brag about/discuss ways of getting high (because you can do that elsewhere on the net) or one where you can tell us how high you got (because - frankly - no one really cares, and such repeated discussion is damn boring)
Hope that clears it up. If it doesn't, ask away.
Originally posted by LiveForever8
Nothing. I don't think it would change. There will always be people who cannot discuss these matters with a genuine academical/philosophical/historical/spiritual mindset. Of those people I say: Let them fall on their swords.
Change the T&C's to allow serious discussion and ban those who can't stay within the T&C's. This might mean more work for the Mods for a couple of weeks as people push it to the limits but eventually everyone will see the line and dare not cross it.
The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1981. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of Federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce the State laws.
The Bill/Act as modified in 1981 refers to the Armed Forces of the United States. It does not apply to the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The U.S. Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.
Originally posted by nenothtu
Bottom line is that if this forum degenerates into drug discussion (which generally degenerate into pissing contests), rather than discussions of the "war on drugs", then people like me will just lose interest and move on, leaving no one but the drug/anti-drug partisans to duke it out and draw blood.
Originally posted by nenothtu
I have zero interest in drugs, but big interest in government misconduct. There is a better than 50/50 chance that I'm not alone in that.I don't care how or why people choose to wreck themselves. None of my business. I DO care that government tries to wreck all of us in some misguided attempt they claim is only to "save" people who don't want saving.
Originally posted by nenothtu
I have NO interest whatsoever in "genuine academical/philosophical/historical/spiritual mindsets" involving drugs. Those discussions are best carried on in smoky rooms accompanies by chips, dips, sugary drinks, pie, cake, cookies, etc.
Originally posted by nenothtu
I hear they can last for hours and still get nowhere.
Originally posted by LiveForever8
But if the subject is properly policed then there shouldn't be an issue. Personally, I think the whole subject deserves its own forum but that's wishful thinking.
Needless to say, you have misjudged the subject matter.
As evidenced by...
Originally posted by nenothtu
I have NO interest whatsoever in "genuine academical/philosophical/historical/spiritual mindsets" involving drugs. Those discussions are best carried on in smoky rooms accompanies by chips, dips, sugary drinks, pie, cake, cookies, etc.
And as for this...
Originally posted by nenothtu
I hear they can last for hours and still get nowhere.
Are we talking about Drugs or Politics?
Originally posted by InTheLight
reply to post by SkepticOverlord
Actually, the continuing studying and medical use of some drugs is directly related to why the laws are being changed at this time. So, by instructing us that discussing the medical benefits of these so called 'bad' drugs effectively cuts off any meaningful discussions regarding these misinformed and antiquated laws.edit on 26-7-2013 by InTheLight because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Originally posted by blaenau2000
Is this still a CONSPIRACY FORUM ? Surely ALL issues should be discussed, be it medicinal, Therapeutic, Spiritual and if some natural plantation can help with all of these issues and its not allowed to be discussed, then this is NOT a conspiracy forum, but a well controlled propaganda forum.
Which is it?
If I might make a comment with regard to this general sentiment. Many of us have been hoping for a good long time that the policy on this would change for the aspects of the drug topic that do impact every level of society and culture. Political, Economic and Social. Finally, after very bad experiences multiple times in the past that are there for folks to see in forums, SO and ATS Staff have decided to allow this again.
It is their site, their rules and their prerogative...but just as importantly? The recreational nature is illegal and could actually put ATS in a position of legal troubles if allowed to run wild. I say that as a site owner of a different site and designer myself, totally unrelated and unaffiliated here, but quite aware of how that whole thing can play out badly.
I'm very happy they have changed policy on this for what they have. In the same breath, I'd be more than happy to see them shut the whole topic RIGHT BACK down ...if it gets all crazy again like it has before and puts the smallest risk toward everything else built here. One topic isn't worth it...not even remotely close.
Perhaps one bunny's opinion alone, but a strongly enough held one to want to voice it.
LiveForever8
So everyone else is punished because of the actions of few?