There Is Something Intrinsically Wrong With America

reply to post by Hefficide


Good read

Welcome to the club, FM.

There is something wrong, but it's only when everyone stops playing the game is when it rights it's self.

the problem here has become that the few control the many
he who screams loudest is given the nod
much of what is happening here is not even voted upon,
it is thrust upon us..neatly hidden in bills that are not read.
but passed non the less..the fix is in.

Kennedy is a good example. This was when the monkey really came off the leash, but the seeds had been sown a hundred years before. Kennedy was trying to destroy and disband the CIA, issued REAL money (taking on the banksters) and tried to stop Israel from getting nukes.

This was the last time someone in a position to really do something about it tried to go up against the evil ruling cabal. That was when everything really took a turn for the worse.

The main problems in the US are:

The FED. End the money power monopoly and everything else will sort itself out. And the Fed is merely a branch of the World Bank and the IMF, so all nations have the same problem. There's only a few left that are not enslaved by the banksters. These nations are scheduled for demolition. Iraq and Libya are already taken care of. The Invasion Timetable is right on schedule.

The media. I think this is self explanatory. There is nothing but propaganda. The media is owned by a few corporations, which also basically own the gubmint. The congress critters are such cheap whores that they will sell out their country's future for some Learjet trips, hookers, and a few hundred grand.

Corporate personhood. Evil men are allowed to commit heinous crimes, yet no one is responsible. Only the corporation, which is not a person, and it's duty to the shareholders. This leads to the miltiary industrial complex, which you were WARNED about. The most that could happen as punishment is a fine, and when you have hundreds of billions, it's just the cost of doing business. Think of the Bhopal India chemical spill. The Deepwater Horizon killing the Gulf of Mexico. The ongoing disaster in Fukushima. No one is held responsible for these HEINOUS crimes.

Try to find what all three have in common. Come on, you can see it.

reply to post by Hefficide


Internet+ bull#= Confusion.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I wasn't familiar with newsroom before. I don't have HBO. That Jeff Daniels rant made my hairs stand on end and brought a tear to my eye. Thank you.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Looking for some common sense ownership of America's issues Heff?

You'll be hard pressed to find that anywhere but in these sorts of communities.

I hate to link it, but..

This is what's wrong with America. It's not #1 but the elected officials and those in charge actually think it still is.

~Tenth

America isn't number one "anymore" because this sop gets 30+stars for america being reduced down in less time than it takes to peal a potato. Not impressed. Jiffy Bake oven america in less than 60 seconds.

Not a word about Americas massive outpouring of aid of all sorts to folks around the world that find themselves in need during natural disaster. And that's just for starters.

You can spare me these cloaked lefty fictions of supposedly considered people having guilt ridden moral conundrums.

Originally posted by Salander
Do you feel you have any obligations as a citizen? Are there things you ought to do, should do, because of your position?

For example, do you think you have an obligation to serve on a jury, or an obligation to avoid that duty?

I feel I have the obligation to serve and I have, also to pay taxes, and to be a good steward of my community while trying not to be a burden on anyone else due to my personal actions or non-actions.

Lawyers don't like me on a jury since I have 28 years of military service. I look at the facts and at the law...the rest is pomp and circumstances.

Great post Hefficide. I enjoy Carlin myself...

In my opinion, we can sift through tons and tons of issues that contribute to our current state of affairs...but the true root cause...is our own greed and selfishness.

We used to be much more community oriented. We actually cared about the family down the street...we don't anymore. Some folks "say" they do...but they are actually just lieing to themselves.

I often hear people cry about say...social safety nets and assistance...saying thngs like "that should be a voluntary service...the churches could take care of that"..

While I can agree in principle with that...in practice, it's impossible. People are selfish and greedy and it's "more-more-more" and "me-me-me". They would never "voluntarily" help anyone...they are too busy helping themselves. I know that will rub people the wrong way, but just calling it as I observe it. Most people are selfish pricks and care only about themselves and their immediate family. Hell I know a family that has wealth in it, but there is also poverty...and the wealthy family members just turn up their nose to the poor members and pretend they are not of the same blood. Sad really.

I am not a great philanthropist. I rarely have it to give away. But what I can do is...stop being greedy. I do not need more than I need. I do not need to break my back or step on another human beings neck to get "more". I am quite satisfied with my station in life...and trust me, it's a pretty humble position...but I am ok with that. I came to the conclusion that chasing material things was poisoning my mind and having a negative effect on me, my family and the people I was around on a regular basis...the poison spreads.

Now, I try to help the world by just not being selfish and greedy...being content without gluttony or lust for more.

It's not much....one day I hope this idea is as contagious as the poison of greed, selfishness and materialism...

Just my take...and my opinion

reply to post by justwokeup


Outstanding post! If there is such a thing as "wild west capitalism", it died about the same time and at the same speed that the real wild west did. Probably a lot fairer, with more opportunity than we have now....

Heff,

We all have a responsibility in this world, not just America.

We have got to awaken to the fact we are all slaves, no matter what ethnicity we are.It does not matter which sexual preference we have. We are all slaves to a system that seeks to divide and conquer. It seems to work for the ones who are in charge, who have money with greed.

Once we own our part, maybe we can come together to put an end to it.

I disagree. The voting machines are controlled. The candidates are controlled. Corporations and global banks rule the world and ruin everything. People who become politicians are people who want power and control. And if they do want to help they are ridiculed like Ron Paul and his son. Like Kucinich. The only ones that want to help are bulldozed by the media who are controlled by the Corporations and banks. We the working people get screwed every year by more and more increasing taxes. Were taxed for everything. Its so hard to live here in America I have friends leaving to move back to third world countries they came from. They say two thousand dollars a month is a fortune in their countries they will work here a few years and return home. While the majority of us work some of us two jobs and have nothing left at the end of the month. And its getting eorse. Most people dont think government does anything to change it. Taxes taxes taxes. Take take take. Say we do have a rebellion or vote for someone different. Will it change? Doubtful. Because there are no alternatives because the people in control of government and banks wont let go of their selfish control. They want their power and they dont care about making the world a better place. Step out of line and your labelled a crazy somethingorother and blown off. There is no difference between parties its the illusion of truth. Just like when you go to a computer controlled voting booth to vote. Its amazing since they have gotten those how amazingly close the elections are every year. Because they are fixed. Princeton cracked them and proved it. So sorry most of us have lost faith and we try to survive everymonth and have some sort of fun in our lives before we die. Most people have become selfish self centered and a bit disgusted with the world. Can you blame us? Im typing this ony cell so sorry for any misspelling.

That Jeff Daniels rant says it all.

I am just glad I was not born in the United States. Of course many countries other then America are not structured perfectly, all nations have there goods and bads.. But the USA is becoming so dark, that even its own people cant trust those 'steering the ship'.

There are hundreds of countries, and billions of people worldwide - most of them are good people, with a genuine love for their Nation. But when it comes to Americans, its al "im a patriot" - "greatest nation on earth" - "most powerful military" ... Its all flaunting. Americans dont want to admit it, I beleive its a brainwash.

I've been to other countries and have met people from every reach of planet Earth - people love travelling, love meeting new people, love learning other cultures - but the average American I have met or observe via internet - is full of pride and no Love for the rest of the World.

And I beleive its that mentality and feelings that has turned America into a blackness that is consuming itself, and its own people. Greed, power, pride, and no care/share for neighboors.

The more patriotic and full of pride a collective Nation is - the more its driven to serve SELF - rather serve OTHERS. The amount of money the American military branches, agencies, and government in general spend on useless # - could go to making their country a better place, with more harmony among its people rather tension.

But when pride, greed and power are mixed into one - you get an awful dish. And the consumers become alike, which makes it easier for the government and their branches to spend money on war planes, nuclear bombs, predator drones, guns, tanks, ammunition etc... The collective mass of America are brainwashed to accept that their country is rich and powerful in military - yet each and every single INDIVIDUAL person within the public have NOTHING to do with military.

Most other countries and their people do not care for war, greed, power.. And that is why most other Nations and their people are happy and doing just fine

What America has become - is a monster that is consuming itself, while trying to reach its tentacles across the globe.. Because its people do not have the heart and will to stand up to its government and military and demand a halt to the power hungry controllers. THAT is why there is something intrinistically WRONG with the United States.

Its people have accepted the military priority, have become greedy, careless for eachother/neighboors and the rest of the World, and have a 'me, me, me' mentality. And that just does not work in real life. And that is why its easy for Obama and the past president adminstrations to do and get away with things - steering America into a pit of Hell.

You always hear or read Americans saying "this once great nation" - how long ago was America great? Where did the forefathers come from? Britain? So who are the forefathers of this "America" and what were their intentions on leaving Europe to dominate and conquer what we have been calling North America?

Even the history has brainwashed its people.. Americans could learn a lot from respecting and appreciating other Nations instead of always being center of their own attention. There is more to your life then the country you were born into. There is more to nations then power hungry governments and their military assets. There is more to being a human then occupying the mind with useless pride, greed and things that do not benefit the collective.

Of course all Nations have their goods and bads. But I dont see another government that has brainwashed and taken advantage of its own people then America. I dont see as many power hundry people who are blinded by their "patriotism" and pride then the Americans.

That is based on expereince, observations, research, and travelling. Like I said; there is more to existing then the country you were born into. There is more to the world then the street you live on and the city your work in.

The only way to fix America and potentially the World; is fixing the people who make the Nation first. Where is heart and will to do so?

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Metallicus

 

I think the problem is we give too much voice to the fringe 10% on both ends of the spectrum.

Give voice? Maybe the other 80% just doesn't have the kahonas to speak up. There's no giving voice, but there is taking the opportunity to speak out and make yourself heard. Those 20% you mentioned are doing just that. When will you take your turn?

I think we have had a media take-over by a very left leaning ideology. Anyone who spoke of the failed war on poverty by pointing out the plantation is now headed by the government is called a racist. Anyone who speaks about the failure of the family because of out of wedlock births and no need for man because government will send a check is called a racist and out of touch.

The media has been on a campaign to destroy the moral fabric of American society for decades. They have pushed alternative fringe lifestyles and ideas in every show be it factual, drama, comedy for decades and anything traditional family values is pushed further out of sight. So, while people might have lost their stones to speak up, it's because as a nation we have seen that the nail that sticks out gets pounded, and lets face it, we don't like to be ridiculed. I personally am very much live and let live. Do what you want and I'll do what I want. I don't want the government dictating what I eat, drink, smoke or read. At the same time, there has to be recognition that despite traditional family programming doing well at the box office, the major media has shoved dumb and dumber, bachalorette, housewives of..... down our throats and it's no wonder we are the way we are.

I believe it is by design, and this was supported by Yuri Bezmenov when he explained the 4 stages to overthrow a nation to become Communist. We are right at the crisis stage which takes 6 weeks to complete and looks like the Arab Spring we just saw. Let crisis begin and afterward, we have normalization in which per this ex-KGB agent those who pushed for all this progressive thought are the first to be shot and killed because they will be the first to realize how stupid they were and what we have is not what they were fighting for.

It makes me sad to see the death of America, but at this point it's like watching a wounded animal and it feels kinder to put a bullet in it than let it suffer.

reply to post by Hefficide


Great! Applause OP!! Truly! So rarely do i hear an American say something like that. I love you guys, as a nation - I have spent 1 year in the states and i truly, truly love you guys and your country. However, you should realise now, after all this blatant disclosures happening and the obviousness of the situation around the world that the American government, controlled not by the President but by Someone Else , has really turned against its people and the rest of the world in many ways.

You know, nowadays most of the rest of the world thinks that the greatest terrorists in the world are the US Government (stressing government and not the people - these are 2 totally different things now) and Israel. So, you can clearly see how funny it looks when the leaders of the US and Israel go on TV and talk about how they fight terrorism DDDDDD -- that's so funny. Unfortunately, no one believes that anymore (there maybe some deep, deep, misguided patriots left that believe it but they are becoming the minority now).

So, keep up the good work OP - we need more of those threads !

Peace be upon you my brothers and sisters...

The problem with humanity, and the rest of life on this planet is that it is selfish and greedy. Life forms are greedy. That is the only reason we strive to live. We are completely selfish. Caring about our own desires is the problem with the United States and the rest of the world. We think we are important for whatever deluded reason.

Once again, greed and selfish arrogance are the reasons why life on this planet is failing. We are not important, not at all in the way any of us would like to believe. You can try to justify selfish acts such as industrialization and the hoarding of resources, but it has no backing in a sustainable civilization.

The condition of life is a plague to this Earth. Not since the native Americans has a group of people been more in tune with reality. Brother eagle, sister sky. Modern civilization is a parasite and it's cultures, ideologies and religious totems are completely in the wrong.

I find myself wondering why ANYBODY would trust ANYONE who wants to be in ANY position of power. What kind of person is it that wants to govern what other people do? I have yet to hear any one of you bad mouth the idea of government. You all talk about WHO is in control of the government. You aren't talking about how the very idea of government is wrong.

The very idea of giving somebody else power over your consciousness is wrong. You don't care what kind of horse pulls the carriage, you only seem to care who holds the reigns. Did you ever stop to think that the entire horse and buggy system was wrong in the first place, regardless of who is in control?

reply to post by Hefficide


Good thread. In respect you're right, at least for myself earlier in life, I didn't pay too close attention to the history or the politics of this country, though I still loved/loves it.