Hello from Egypt - Know the truth and think for yourselves

reply to post by eLPresidente


Get with the program? Not much of these claims are ever proven. You gotta realise man Ive waided through years and years of 9/11 was an inside job threads, Illuminati and global elite threads, political debates and a ton of crap that is claimed to be true by every ... lets just say, creative person on youtube, aka the weird part as well as kept up with ats.

get with the program? If slinging insults is the program? Ill pass. I dont have to agree with my government on every last issue, but Im not going to believe just any old yahoo on the damn internet after been on it for pft, probably longer than many of us should be. So you'll you have to excuse me if we're not all on the same page.

And whats up with the Ron Paul avi. Good guy, served my state for years.

Originally posted by Nephalim
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

Get with the program? Not much of these claims are ever proven. You gotta realise man Ive waided through years and years of 9/11 was an inside job threads, Illuminati and global elite threads, political debates and a ton of crap that is claimed to be true by every ... lets just say, creative person on youtube, aka the weird part as well as kept up with ats.

get with the program? If slinging insults is the program? Ill pass. I dont have to agree with my government on every last issue, but Im not going to believe just any old yahoo on the damn internet after been on it for pft, probably longer than many of us should be. So you'll you have to excuse me if we're not all on the same page.

And whats up with the Ron Paul avi. Good guy, served my state for years.

edit on 6-7-2013 by Nephalim because: (no reason given)

What does any of what I said have to do with 9/11 or illuminati?

Mubarak getting tens of billions of US AID and Morsi getting over a hundred million of US aid, plus tons of military toys. How is that merely a claim? That is a fact.

People keep claiming Morsi is democratically elected, he was a mainstream candidate, just like how Obama, Romney, and Bush were mainstream candidates all funded by the big banks and the military industrial complex, how is any of this connected to yahoos on youtube giving opinions on the illuminati?

I asked you to get with the program because you were somehow deceived to believe that Iraq and Afghanistan wars were fought because we wanted to shut down the islamic extremists. The wars were fought for control, money, contracts, power, etc.. Iraq was a complete sham from the beginning, we have troops guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan...all COMMON KNOWLEDGE, bro.

All of these wars, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... were all meticulously planned YEARS ago This is not some youtube illuminati crap, this is a fact

Don't take my word for it, let four star General Wesley Clark tell you:


So now do you believe that the 'war on terror' is real or a scam? Was I just blowing smoke up your bum?

As for my avatar, yes I like Ron Paul too, he kept his oath.

reply to post by Stormdancer777

I don't disagree with you mem0r1es, there were a few of us here that saw through it all and believed the muslim brotherhood was put into power by the Obama administration, I don't totally see the Israeli connection or how they would profit from the Muslim brotherhood in power.

i think his point is that in order for israel to attack a nation and get away with it, that nation must be perceived by the world as a threat. attacking a kind, neighboring country who doesn't want to go to war wouldn't be supported by the masses, but tell the average person that the neighboring country is governed by islamic terrorists who have weapons and wish to attack everyone, and they'll support military action.

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


A hard-line Islamic Egypt is what NWO wants. NWO is composed of atheists; and nothing gives a greater "high" to an atheist than a fight to death of two religions, in this case Islam and Judaism.

You people must understand that concern for Israel is as much a show for these people as it is concern for Egypt.

This so called "West" is dominated by Satan worshipers. They do not care for Christians, or Muslims or Jews. We cannot understand today's world until we understand this basic fact.

The fight between religions reinforces NWO's power over the world.

reply to post by mem0r1es


@OP, hate to rain on your parade, but it sounds like this overthrow of the Egyptian government also involved the US. The US was clearly involved in negotiations in the last few days before the coup, and common wisdom is that the Egyptian military would not conduct a coup without tacit US approval. Details of this can be read about here:

NYTimes - Fall of Morsi government analysis

That said, I've also read accounts that the Morsi government was about to sign some heinous IMF deal, and that it had also had tunnels along the Gaza border filled with sewage, so the Moris government did also seem to be a stooge of multinationals, the US and Israel. However, I don't have much hope for any new government that comes about through the machinations of the US either.

Originally posted by mbkennel
It's the primary thing separating humankind from ten thousand years of poverty, tyranny, and barbarism.

Secularism is by no means solely responsible for the scientific revolution and the scientific revolution is also by no means solely or even mostly responsible for secularism. Progress, scientific or otherwise, takes place despite religion and if there came a time where the rulers and policy makers of the world decided that secularism or like social policies might better suit their interest then that is why we have it; if democracy, voting or secularism could change anything significant they wouldn't let us practice it.

Average people the world over are in my opinion no more or less religious than they were a thousand or two thousand years ago and they wont be a thousand years from now. The difference today is that you can admit as much and do not have to keep up some of the pretenses that were required by the state&church way back when.

Stellar

reply to post by mem0r1es


I'm not doubting you memories, I'm just wondering if you've got any evidence to support your claims.

Originally posted by mem0r1es
Hi Everyone

I am proud to have my first post on ATS, I am a long standing follower of ATS and today I decided to have my first thread which surprisingly is only available in Introduction section.

I am going to start with a provocative statement so I will forgive any disagreements.

There was no Military Coupe... There was a plan to dismantle all of the Arab region long time ago, a lot of people know this and I will just enforce the message by telling you how we overthrew the "US" democratically elected president in Egypt hence destorying Israel and Obama's Operation Change in the MEA region.


1- Shafik did win by votes but the US pressured the Army back then to go for their puppet
2- The Army did know the facts and saw this coming as Israel wants to "Islamize" the region so they can launch their attack
3- What they didn't see coming was a 90 Million Population of smart people who knew that this is not what they wanted and knew now how they can get it.
4- If you want reality watch the local media and not the International made in Hollywood 9/11 directed films.

Surely now the Mossad and Hamas are upset we ruined their plans as both of them want to go to war but Egypt is their long standing pimple.

I just wanted to say the people are so happy and by people I mean you average young Egyptian, Old truck driver, Taxi owner, Lady washer, School student, Christian, Muslim whatever you wanna call it.

I feel something will happen as the Republicans are pushing to draw the aid "slavery tool" away from Egypt, and we might see a NATO stooged by Islamist led invasion soon, but I know that it's inevitable.

Remember my words and I just wanted to say that this is the BEST community ever and you all are the spark that will ignite the fuel when it spills and it will.

So....you sign up a couple of days ago and this is what you offer.

A vanity opinion with no links to your numbered claims.

You could be anybody. But one thing is clear. You are anti-US and anti-Israel.

Thanks for playing.

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Not till roughly the end of this video will you see two young men mid to late teens early twenties pushed to the roof below and beaten.

This is just sad

To the OP: I would like to know what an average Egyptian expects from the future of his/her country. Is it a better run economy? More political freedoms (like guaranteed freedom of speech)? Perhaps a wish that the country would unite more politically, rather than being so damn polarized (secularists vs islamists)?

To repeat my question: What do Egyptians want for their future? How do they see Egypt change/evolve in, say, the next 5 years?

when i watched egypt toss out morsi the spin from the msm was almost instantaneous, attempting to label it a "coup". i told everyone in the room that morsi was a puppet, and the news wished to spin this as a "coup" to make it look like a bad thing because their handlers stand to lose over it.

RT

Saudi Princess Basmah Bint Saud ‘Egypt coup is just one of many to come’

A pretty good interview done by RT with the Princess.

reply to post by HairlessApe


These are not claims for a fact, it could be all wrong as this is a personal analysis

reply to post by DCPatriot


Sorry to dissapoint you but im only anti hidden agendas also i think that we all suffer in some form because of them, the people should not suffer, tax payers should not find their money funding wars instead of medical support and wellfare.

The people are one thing and the ones running the show are another.

Again no father should burry their son because of a war without a cause or act of patriotism not some hidden oil field somwhere being exploited

reply to post by whatzshaken


Although i never heard from her before but definitely a great read

Thanks

From the election results I would conclude that the Muslim Brotherhood is really what a slim majority of Egyptians want. But the MB took over the government without any checks on their power, and proceeded to remake the constitution without regard for what anyone else wanted. That's why in America any constitutional changes require broad support; not just a simple majority. They so angered the secular, democratic forces that brought about the revolution in the first place, that the military stepped in to stop the chaos. I agree with the poster who said foreign countries have less influence on internal affairs than most people think. There is a "hidden hand" of influence behind the scenes, but that's just politics and diplomacy. The U.S. rarely gets a certain result in a foreign country that we'd actually want.

reply to post by mem0r1es


May democracry, freedom and human rights become reality for you and all of your people.
Peace to you, happiness to you, prosperity to you.
No foreign influence any longer.
Show the world that Christians, Jews and Muslims can live together in peace.

Tiamat

welcome to ATS
Great info about Egypt

reply to post by Stormdancer777

I think the author of this thread has explained it very well. The idea is a false flag event. Establish an excuse for attacking Egypt. Zionist Israel are enemies with Islamists and therefore will want to "islamize" Egypt as an excuse to launch an attack.

so now we know the real truth?