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Originally posted by Diablos
If you want a complete refutation of Lazar's fantasy physics, I suggest you read this piece by Dr David Morgan, a real physicist.
Not knowing any real physics, Lazar has contradicted himself so many times that it ruined what shred of credibility he had to begin with. It would be one thing if he actually knew what he was talking about, but he has shown time and time again that he doesn't understand the basics of modern gravitation theory and nuclear physics. That alone is enough to conclude that it is simply not possible for Lazar to competently do the job he claimed he was hired to do.
edit on 2-7-2013 by Diablos because: (no reason given)
Thanks for probably the best post in this thread. I agree with some of your points, I don't see the government just handing him alien tech, it's compartmentalized to the hilt. In fact, I'd suggest if it happened at all, he'd be told he was reverse engineering Russian tech.
Originally posted by Damsel
I'm always surprised by how quickly people will disregard Bob and his story, even in the UFO community. I'm not sure why it happens either.
People are quick to point out that he can't verify his background and refer to Stanton Friedman's comments on Bob, in spite of the fact that Bob Lazar was the first one to say he couldn't verify his background or schooling.
They also tend to disregard the fact that Bob was listed in the newspaper as a physicist working at LANL and that his number was in the phonebook there, and that George Knapp went with Bob into LANL and introduced him to his coworkers there and that he clearly knew his way around and what was going on there.
They're often unfamiliar with the fact that he knew of a location called S-4 that was confirmed to exist by Nellis Air Force Base, as well as the existence of the OFI and one of their agents.
And they ignore that he took many people up on Wednesday nights to see flying saucer test flights at Area 51.
Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by Gazrok
Thanks for probably the best post in this thread. I agree with some of your points, I don't see the government just handing him alien tech, it's compartmentalized to the hilt.
Originally posted by buster2010
If Lazar knows nothing of physics like you say then how is it possible for him to build a particle accelerator in his backyard?
Originally posted by VoidWalker
reply to post by Diablos
You yourself just posted that it is just a gravitational " theory" I am not say Bob Lazaar is right or wrong, but most of out physics based science is formulated off of just theories that people have come together to make. Bob could sound dumb to people if hes speaking above and beyond what the "normal theories a physicist would follow."
Originally posted by Limbo
Wasn't there a court case involving United Nuclear and the court got all his work details
right the way back exposing him as a fraud.
Also Element 115 decays so rapidly how would they make it stable?
Limbo
Originally posted by Bone75
reply to post by awakehuman
So let me get his straight...
The aliens gave us 500 pounds of element 115, but made us reverse engineer a spaceship? What's wrong with that picture?
edit on 2-7-2013 by Bone75 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BullwinkleKicksButt
Giving Bob the benefit of the doubt that he was employed there, he would have been employed due to his ability to actually build things. I know many scientists who can't do what Bob has done.
Propulsion R&D is not just made up of physicists, they employ people with many different skills.
Originally posted by stormcell
Originally posted by Bone75
reply to post by awakehuman
So let me get his straight...
The aliens gave us 500 pounds of element 115, but made us reverse engineer a spaceship? What's wrong with that picture?
edit on 2-7-2013 by Bone75 because: (no reason given)
You'd think they would send also down the instruction manuals, spare parts, manufacturing processes, and maybe a few onsite field engineers
That's like towing a wrecked car to your driveway, dumping a lump of steel on the sidewalk and telling you to make your own engine block.
Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by awakehuman
Anyways what you think about Bob Lazar ?
I think Lazar spins a good yarn but the stories he tells are full of holes and he ranks low on the credibility scale .
There is a possibility that he is/was an asset for certain agencies but that's just speculation on my part .
Originally posted by awakehuman
In Lazar's first interview he talked about Element 115. Fifteen years later in 2004 scientific breakthrough, however, provides significant credibility to Bob Lazar’s claims rather than discrediting his claims, when scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, in collaboration with researchers from the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research in Russia (JINR), announced that they discovered two new super-heavy elements, Element 113 and Element 115. The Isotope of Element 115, produced by bombarding an Americium-243 (95Am243) nucleus with a Calcium-48 (20Ca48) nucleus, rapidly decayed to Element 113. then continued to decay until a meta-stable isotope was obtained.
Originally posted by draknoir2
Originally posted by RothchildRancor
What the hell is wrong with the idiots on this thread?
Everytime someone talks about any sort of scientist with ties to ufos in any way they yell, "FRAUD" or "GATEKEEPER" with no proof or anything to back up their statements about lack of credibility.
It's all just stating opinion as fact in a one sentence post with you people!
You mean like referring to Bob Lazar as a "scientist"?
Originally posted by mbkennel
Originally posted by BullwinkleKicksButt
Giving Bob the benefit of the doubt that he was employed there, he would have been employed due to his ability to actually build things. I know many scientists who can't do what Bob has done.
Propulsion R&D is not just made up of physicists, they employ people with many different skills.
He's a tech, not a physicist.