Bigfoot yay or nay ?

Here is some of the best footage I have seen to date. www.youtube.com... blew me away when I watched it.

Originally posted by Quauhtli
On the contrary sir, hunters don't hunt to kill. They hunt to eat, and to build skills and a deep rooted relationship with nature that we are hard wired for. The hunters that I have grown up with have a deep respect for nature, as we'll as the rest of their environment and people around them. Hunters are the biggest group of people who may come into contact with the Sasquatch, Bigfoot or whatever you want to call it. The last thing they want is a bunch of disrespectful murderers and journalist crawling around in the most sacred places they know. Maybe you don't know anyone who takes hunting seriously, in fact with a reply like that I'm surprised you're so deep into this thread.

Everything in here is opinion. The -one- thing that -all- hunters have in common is that they are -killers-. Not all hunters kill their prey, to say otherwise is naive at best, and a lie at worst. Not all hunters are noble stewards of the land like you are claiming. If they were, poaching wouldn't be a thing, but sadly, it -is- a thing, isnt it? Ever see pictures of the great apes with nothing but there hands chopped off, or elephants left to die after their tusks have been harvested? Yeah, all hunters are all really great guys.

Originally posted by dudeman351
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

Then how do you explain what I saw with my own two eyes?

edit on 30-6-2013 by dudeman351 because: (no reason given)

I explain it with a question of my own.

Is your eye sight so great and unerring that you have never in your life had a mistaken perception?

Originally posted by Casualboy100
Yayayyyyyyyy!!!! Whooo!!!!! yyayaa *throws confetti*

Is that a confetti avatar i'm see'n ?
I believe it is.

reply to post by Coopdog


Its pretty good but one thing that makes me apprehensive about it is the arms look too short. The one I saw the arms were disproportionally long.

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


There is no way at that close of a distance, we're talking 60', there is any thing else it could have been other than a skunk ape. Unless it was a mutant orangutan that evolved to run bipedally. And had human like feet.

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


I trust everyone here is adult enough not to let any debate that may arise on this topic
slide into anything personal.

Not directed at anyone person but I'm sure you can all keep a topic of this nature civil.
Keep your witts about you EVERYONE.

reply to post by Quauhtli


The second encounter that I had was with what I believe the natives of southeast Alaske refer to as Sasquash, or Kushtaka. He is a fabled beast of legend to the Tsimshian and Tlingit Indians in the region.

I had woken up at about 5:30 in the AM and came out of my tent to pee. It was October, so the sun was setting around 6:30 or 7:00. When your camping, it is hard to stay up late at this time of year. The sun wasn't going to return for another 4 or 5 hours when I came out of the tent.

I came out, peed and kicked a couple of small logs together and sparked a small flame, smoked a cigarette and stood around for about ten minutes. Afterword I crawled back into the tent and zipped myself back into my sleeping bag. Right after I zipped up, the beast "screamed" at me. The thing about the scream that was so scary was that it was directed right at me, less than 15 yards away, and it was obvious that whatever made the scream was sentient. By that I mean clearly smarter than the animals that one regularly comes into contact with in the forest. It was louder by far than any yell or scream that any local animal could produce, and I have heard bears roar at each other many times in the work that I do, it was not a bear. Even a brown bear sounds more like chewbakka than what this was. Like I said, it sounded like some sort of battle cry that came from something like a mix between a lion and a gorilla. My sleeping brother heard it as well and woke instantly, and we both jumped in the truck, turned it on and sat inside for almost an hour before going back to the tent. This sound was something straight out of a nightmare believe me. And it was directed at me, which made it so much worse.

This encounter happened at Ward Lake outside of Ketchikan Alaska, which I found out later has had more Sasquatch encounters than any other place in the world. I

met a guy a couple of years later that has been putting stories of local encounters together to make books. He took my story and told me that it was not an unusual encounter. His thoughts were that it was a juvenile male, that was not experienced and old enough to be shy of humans. That I probably scared him a bit as he was not expecting to come upon a human that was awake in the forest so early in the morning, and that he was trying to scare me away. The park at the time was closed for the season, and we were the only campers anywhere in the area.


These are my stories, take it or leave it. I was there and experienced them both, and I am a firm believer that there are more than one large hominid creature alive and well in the forests of North America. How many different types I could not guess, but at least one of them is closely related to humans. Shooting one of them would be akin to murder in my opinion. They are smart, like us, and have families and children to raise, like us. If and when someone shoots one of these creature it will be a sad day I believe. I do not want to imagine what we do if we caught one of them alive.

Yah, I believe in Big foot, like others have said the stories about the creature have been going back for hundreds of years.

Never seen or heard one in my neck of the woods but there were reports of sighting back some years ago.

My interest in Big foot started back many years ago and I have a theory based off of a movie, Who remembers the six million dollar man, there was an episode were he meet big foot, turned out that big foot was a guardian for the aliens that were living in a mountain cave.

So was there some truth to this episode, like they say about urban legends there is always some truth to them.

So is Big foot an Alien, is that why we can't find and dead bigfoots?

Originally posted by dudeman351
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

There is no way at that close of a distance, we're talking 60', there is any thing else it could have been other than a skunk ape. Unless it was a mutant orangutan that evolved to run bipedally..

I thank you for not actually answering my question, and instead resorting to flawed logic to fill out the rest of your post.

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


No I'm sure of what I saw. No mistaking it. My buddy saw the same thing and it scared him worse than me. It scared him so bad that just the mention of it he would turn white and start to freak. Is that a good enough answer?

Originally posted by dudeman351
reply to post by RUFFREADY

 

I've lived in the area almost my whole life, and have spoken to a lot of people. The sightings go back well into the 1800s.

And I will add. Seeing one is a life altering experience.

edit on 30-6-2013 by dudeman351 because: (no reason given)

I hear yah! I just went back and checked (again) on the area you had your event. Look at this! www.bfro.net...

I don't live to far from there. Maybe one of these days I'll go check it out. Crazy weird !!

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
yay. there has to be some truth to the legends. they are probably a rare species and live in areas uninhabited by humans. i also believe in gray and reptillian aliens and they are also rare. too bad we close our eyes to the possibilites while science and religion choose to be antagonistic.

There doesn't have to be any truth to the legends at all.

Is there any truth to the Paul Bunyon legends?

there is plenty of testimony going back many years. what more do you want?

saying something does not exist because i did not see it is a logical fallacy prevallent in cryptozoology.

of course we are playing with odds here. the odds are in my favor.

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence of the 'boogeyman' too. Am I to believe that there is someone that lives in the closets of children?

It depends on what the definition of boogeyman is. Sometimes demons or angels can posses homes and people. # happens not to everyone, but to some people. So what is your point?

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


Your examples are not of hunters, but of poachers and murderers. The same type of guys that hunters would rather not be in the forest looking for Bigfoot, as they have no respect for the land or those who inhabit it.

It is a hard case trying find leaks in a bunch of opinions or otherwise unproven theories, my hat is off to you my friend.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
yay. there has to be some truth to the legends. they are probably a rare species and live in areas uninhabited by humans. i also believe in gray and reptillian aliens and they are also rare. too bad we close our eyes to the possibilites while science and religion choose to be antagonistic.

There doesn't have to be any truth to the legends at all.

Is there any truth to the Paul Bunyon legends?

there is plenty of testimony going back many years. what more do you want?

saying something does not exist because i did not see it is a logical fallacy prevallent in cryptozoology.

of course we are playing with odds here. the odds are in my favor.

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence of the 'boogeyman' too. Am I to believe that there is someone that lives in the closets of children?

It depends on what the definition of boogeyman is. Sometimes demons or angels can posses homes and people. # happens not to everyone, but to some people. So what is your point?

So which is a bigfoot? A demon or an angel? Seriously, youre backing up claims of bigfoot's existence with the 'existence' of angels and demons?

I stand behind my original claim, and nothing you have said actually counters my logic. I do welcome you to continue to try, I am enjoying the exercise.

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


You said boogeyman. And I answered to your off-topic post. What is the correllation between boogeyman and bigfoot, besides being rare??

Originally posted by Quauhtli
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

Your examples are not of hunters, but of poachers and murderers. The same type of guys that hunters would rather not be in the forest looking for Bigfoot, as they have no respect for the land or those who inhabit it.

It is a hard case trying find leaks in a bunch of opinions or otherwise unproven theories, my hat is off to you my friend.

en.wikipedia.org...

Please familiarize yourself with the definition of poaching that the vast majority of the world has given to it. When you deny very simple and provable concepts, and instead cling to naive beliefs, you take even more credibility away from yourself.

You went from being merely someone that believes he saw bigfoot, to a guy that doesn't believe poachers are hunters because all hunters are noble, and you also saw bigfoot.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

You said boogeyman. And I answered to your off-topic post. What is the correllation between boogeyman and bigfoot, besides being rare??

These are both social constructs that people believe in that have no empirical evidencury support.

Originally posted by Quauhtli
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

Your examples are not of hunters, but of poachers and murderers. The same type of guys that hunters would rather not be in the forest looking for Bigfoot, as they have no respect for the land or those who inhabit it.

It is a hard case trying find leaks in a bunch of opinions or otherwise unproven theories, my hat is off to you my friend.

Still if I were to go camping in some remote area you can bet I would have a gun with me and some rubber bullets. Bigfoot, aliens, bears, wolves, psychotic killers, the possibilities are endless. I don't like killing but for basic protection.

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

You said boogeyman. And I answered to your off-topic post. What is the correllation between boogeyman and bigfoot, besides being rare??

These are both social constructs that people believe in that have no empirical evidencury support.

People are born once and die once. People usually get married once or twice. People play the lottery and occasionally win a million dollars. People go to the casino and occasionally win a million dollars. People occasionally see a possible ufo.

Some things are very rare. And when we combine the tendency of science to WANT to ignore the strange, it makes it even more strange. I am not suprised we have no conclusive proof.