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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Tell me... if the most wicked, immoral, sinful human accepts Jesus died on the cross for his sins.... is he not redeemed of all his sins?
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by adjensen
What about on his death bed?
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by adjensen
So works aren't needed. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Originally posted by abeverage
Look around at the world and the so called "Christian" countries, then at the so called political entities that align themselves with Christianity and this question is easily answered...edit on 13-6-2013 by abeverage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
If you have faith in his sacrifice then you can do whatever you want and be saved.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
The Vatican is a country. And I do think it's considered a 'christian country'.
But other than that ... I think you are right.
Ireland used to be but I'm pretty sure it isn't anymore.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by abeverage
Look around at the world and the so called "Christian" countries, then at the so called political entities that align themselves with Christianity and this question is easily answered...edit on 13-6-2013 by abeverage because: (no reason given)
No such thing as a christian country. You won't find a theocracy anywhere sporting a 100% christian ruled government, so yeah that question is easily answered.
Originally posted by abeverage
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by abeverage
Look around at the world and the so called "Christian" countries, then at the so called political entities that align themselves with Christianity and this question is easily answered...edit on 13-6-2013 by abeverage because: (no reason given)
No such thing as a christian country. You won't find a theocracy anywhere sporting a 100% christian ruled government, so yeah that question is easily answered.
Oh you got me there...good point...only place with 100% is the Vatican...
So how about we throw out the "Christian Country" and go by majority rules (let's say 70% or higher...) Does that seem fair to you? A majority of the population sets its culture and its policies.
Basically are you telling me any countries, states, and cites where the population has a majority of Christians (Currently the USA is just below 80%) isn't run by Christians?
Do you really want to argue that? Really?
Or would rather admit that most "Christians" live in the world than by Christ's words?edit on 13-6-2013 by abeverage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by abeverage
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by abeverage
Look around at the world and the so called "Christian" countries, then at the so called political entities that align themselves with Christianity and this question is easily answered...edit on 13-6-2013 by abeverage because: (no reason given)
No such thing as a christian country. You won't find a theocracy anywhere sporting a 100% christian ruled government, so yeah that question is easily answered.
Oh you got me there...good point...only place with 100% is the Vatican...
So how about we throw out the "Christian Country" and go by majority rules (let's say 70% or higher...) Does that seem fair to you? A majority of the population sets its culture and its policies.
Basically are you telling me any countries, states, and cites where the population has a majority of Christians (Currently the USA is just below 80%) isn't run by Christians?
Do you really want to argue that? Really?
Or would rather admit that most "Christians" live in the world than by Christ's words?edit on 13-6-2013 by abeverage because: (no reason given)
In the case of the U.S. we're run by democracy. You know, people vote for what they want and statistics are a bit off, otherwise you wouldn't see things like abortion being legalized, or pornography or homosexuality, or drunkeness, or other religions for that matter, but the Constitution wasn't written by christians it was largely written and ratified by Freemasons which has their own religion. If we were ruling this world it would be with an iron hand and the entire world would be a giant Theocracy. The Freemasons are the ones running this nation and probably every other one. Jesus never commanded us to rule this world because this world is going to fade away and we're waiting on the next world.
C'mon man, wikipedia seriously?
Jesus never commanded us to rule this world because this world is going to fade away and we're waiting on the next world.
Christians fight wars, Kill their neighbors, don't recycle, guzzle gas, watch porn, shop till they drop, ,commit adultery, have abortions and hundreds of other things Of this world...unless you believe that only 20% of this population does it alll??? RIDICULOUS!
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
The Vatican is a country. And I do think it's considered a 'christian country'.
But other than that ... I think you are right.
Ireland used to be but I'm pretty sure it isn't anymore.
Christians don't go around blowing eachother up or torturing eachother over disagreements on doctrine and rituals. Even if there are heretics present.
Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. - 1 Timothy 6:19-21
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
The Vatican is a country. And I do think it's considered a 'christian country'.
But other than that ... I think you are right.
Ireland used to be but I'm pretty sure it isn't anymore.
Christians don't go around blowing eachother up or torturing eachother over disagreements on doctrine and rituals. Even if there are heretics present.
You're right, they just go around blowing Muslims up and killing people who disagree with them. You must have a short memory, because the Crusades and Inquisitions weren't THAT long ago.
Christianity is far from having a squeaky clean record as you apparently believe.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by BlackManINC
The creation of the world has little to do with salvation. My position is i'll accept Moses' account as given him by God. Other than that i don't care how he created the world or universe. I'm here, thats all i need to know. If it bothers people that much then they can ask Jesus when he gets here. There are far more weightier matters we should be concerning ourselves with than getting bogged down by things that have precious little to do with the message and the good news.