Alex Jones loses it on BBC today June 9th

reply to post by Mclaneinc


People call it a Melt Down. I call it the only way to get your exact point across. These MSM outlets want to have people on with opposing views to portray an image. Make the viewers believe they are not a 1 sided State Run/ Corporate Run propaganda Program. They give you a short amount of time to answer & have a counter man who drags out 80% of the time. It's controlled & never reaches the point of real debate. If or when scandals break that can't be ignored, they find clever ways of missing the point, or focusing heavily on areas that will never shed light on the real issue.

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If you and I were having a discussion knowing full well that we did not see eye to eye, and you repeatedly told me to shut up, we both know that it would end in blows and not just a shouting match. He did not fully buckle under the pressure if you ask me!

OMG! Did AJ go 5150 or what?! That was so far-nee!

He sure did know where it was heading even beforehand as expressed after the show(Alex Jones Takes Over BBC...)

Do we have to be reminded whether he yelled, screamed or what ever you want to peg him as he usually does, or if he was calm the result, would probably be the same. If they intent to call Conspiracy Theorists, nuts, stupid, kooks and or crazy, etc, they will despite the messenger. Good example is for those who followed Dr. Ron Paul and the last election. Also, there's plenty of details out there if interested on how they taunted in conversations, only shared select views, etc.

Look how fired up the host Andrew Neil and guest were already with their childish remarks as soon as they could be used. That opening question, I mean really? The show had him set up, which is expected from the MSM loosely saying "You must be one of them, a Bilderberg, if they have not killed you." More so that the host said "shut it" , “We have an idiot on the programme today.”
Oh yeah, that is so professional on their part! Come on...

Tim Geithner is one of this years attendees. I'm sure they reward him greatly for getting the bailout for Sharia compliant AIG and Goldman Sachs bankers.

Alex Jones does indeed bring up some interesting things from time to time. But he's no more credible than any other major news company.

In my opinion, he just tries way to hard, He'll take one event, and try to say that this event is absolute proof that another event will occur. He exagerates way to much, and comes up with some pretty bold theories. And usually when he theorizes that some kind of event will happen sometime in the near future, it pretty much never happens.

He's no better than mainstream media, he gives the same stories, but puts a conspiracy twist on it, since most news companies don't get involved with conspiracy talk. So he's basically got a whole alternative media outlet capitalized. And when you have a particular market cornered, you can make some serious cash.

I believe that anything can happen, and a certain event could quite possibly be a conspiracy. But I think after so many years of babbling about conspiracies, he's basically driven himself crazy. If you hear every single piece of news like he does on a daily basis, you'll start getting a little crazy also. Because everyone has their own opinion on a matter, and sometimes someones ego/opinion can drive them insane.

Alex Jones is one of three things:

1. A complete nutcase (Or acting like one, in order to attract attention, which will turn into viewership, then turns into $.)

2. Some sort of government agent that purposely spreads disinfo to the public, hoping people will believe it, in order for the government to come in and demonize the people (usually conspiracy theorists) to make themselves look better.

3. All the things he says is 100% true, and is 100% credible.


Personally, I believe he is number one.

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Funny thing, for the first time in 59 years the MSM actually covered Bilderberg, which includes the BBC who has been mocking anyone who believes in conspiracy theories pertaining to BB. It's not like the BBC has just learned about BB after all these years so what gives? I'll tell you what gives, for all those in this thread, and others like it, who waste their time laughing and putting down Alex Jones, well, you were all just played and it wasn't Jones who played you.

Ignorance was not denied this day.

Far worse than any of Alex Jones's behavior was the host doing the old cookoo crazy swirling hand gesture pointing at his head as Jones was ending off.

This labeling of conspiracy theorists as crazy is disgusting to me as Jones is trying to sound the alarm while the Bildabergs have their little gathering to discuss how to further consolidate their power and stomp their boots in our faces.

Are we really supposed to give a crap about the volume of Jones's voice and his general approach while we are drowning in corruption, tyranny, and injustice to a degree that the world has never even dreamed of being possible? This whole preoccupation with the messenger as opposed to the message is ridiculous.

The Alex Jones criticisms continue but every time I check out his show I just see endless amounts of valuable information about the most important issues we face as a society. Also, Jones is incredibly skilled at connecting the dots as far as psychology, control, power, government, money, etc.

Originally posted by justwokeup
It really doesn't matter what he says. He comes across as mentally unhinged. Perception is everything, if you create the perception of being a lunatic and then spout truth all that happens as people will dismiss whatever truth is in your message as the ramblings of an imbecile.

Whether its intentional or not is irrelevant, the message gets discredited just the same.

Unless of course, you or several are a group of angry, militant political Islamists marching down the streets of UK screaming at Women to be covered or they are "whores" and demanding Sharia Law, (recent episode in UK, of which I'm only using this as an EXAMPLE, for comparison anaylsis)

THEN the UK and World lot applaud and assert that any who are hesitant of these extremists are Paranoid and racist and a variety of Other labels,

So Which is it?

If the militancy is Opposed to the Agenda of multi cultural relativism and new world order/progress then it's they must be mad and in need of Meds and so forth,

BUT

If its militancy demanding the end of liberalism, twentieth century freedoms, demand for Sharia Courts and a reverting back to the Reich Mutterland or dark ages Then THAT'S deemed Liberating, fresh, modern, militancy that is Justified, deserving of sympathy (of course to hell with actual Victims of such militancy), and understanding....and of course, not Crazy whatsoever!

My observing the views of some towards Militancy can get a bit confusing, because there sure isn't any CONSISTANCY to how many Define who's in need of Meds and who isn't. One set of standards for This group and a Completely different set of standards for another group,

Even though their militancy, anger and outbursts tend to be similar, Therefore,

To any Thinking person it sure looks as though, the judgments isn't so much based on the outbursts of a speaker/spokesperson,

As much as it is over the Content or the AGENDA of a spokesperson.

Interesting....


Oh, By the way, the Technique that the show host and his co-Hort used, is called

GASLIGHTING.

narcissists use it (ABUSERS, etc) all the time, it's also termed as "crazy making" or "pushing buttons"

Maybe for those unaware if the techniquspes of GASLIGHTING I should post a few relevant definitions, the media is extremely expert at GASLIGHTING. Sorry I do not know the names of the BBC etc., I don't watch much t.v. As I find it to be quite manipulative and boring so pop culture, tv/media other than the occasional video, I'm just not that up on. I'm beginning to see the Positive effects of as well....

Defining of GASLIGHTING, excerpt from a wiki, just google GASLIGHTING, this is from wiki, scroll down, under Clinical Example,

Anyhow GASLIGHTING is also used by MEDIA to discredit Truth, as well as persuading the audience, listener, etc to believe the sociopath, while demonizing or blaming the victims or targets of GASLIGHTING.

Psychologist Martha Stout states that sociopaths frequently use gaslighting tactics. Sociopaths consistently transgress social mores, break laws, and exploit others, but are also typically charming and convincing liars who consistently deny wrongdoing. Thus, some who have been victimized by sociopaths may doubt their perceptions.[6] Jacobson and Gottman report that some physically abusive spouses may gaslight their partners, even flatly denying that they have been violent.[3]
Psychologists Gertrude Gass and William C. Nichols use the term "gaslighting" to describe a dynamic observed in some cases of marital infidelity: "Therapists may contribute to the victim's distress through mislabeling the women's reactions. [...] The gaslighting behaviors of the husband provide a recipe for the so-called 'nervous breakdown' for some women [and] suicide in some of the worst situations".[7]
Gaslighting can also occur in parent-child relationships, with either parent or child (or both) lying to each other and attempting to undermine perceptions.[8] Furthermore, gaslighting has been observed between patients and staff in inpatient psychiatric facilities.[9]
Some of Sigmund Freud's conduct has been characterized as gaslighting. Regarding the case of Sergei Pankejeff, nicknamed the "Wolf Man" due to his dream featuring wolves which he discussed extensively with Freud, Dorpat wrote, "Freud brought relentless pressure on the Wolfman to accept and to confirm Freud's reconstructions and formulations".[2]Template:Syn?

Despite the shouting I liked everything he said. And I'm glad he said it on BBC! That was mainstream!

Alternate spelling for Alex
R-U-D-E.
He's making conspiracy look like professional wrestling.
He has to realize this. So why discredit the very thing you supposedly promote?
Shame on you Mr. Jones.
But props for all the free vids, you helped me wake up.
But WTH are you doing now?

Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Mods, please move if in wrong forum..


The rather foolish BBC invited Alex Jones on to the Sunday Politics show to comment on The Bilderberger Group and Alex as usual gave more than he was asked for. To be honest he came across as a raving loon and Ex Editor of the Sunday Times, Andrew Neil described him "as the worst person he's ever interviewed".

At the end of the show Alex went full melt down and basically stopped the show dead, gladly it had finished and all the guests were tweeting like mad about what they had just seen.


To see the segment...

Loon or genius... You decide...

edit on 9-6-2013 by Mclaneinc because: (no reason given)

It was the presenter NOT Alex who was unprofessional.

Alex only shouted when he was told to shut up several times and they mocked him.
As he stated - this is not a joke, these things he talks about are serious. Andrew Neil was VERY unprofessional - mocking him and making faces.

Alex Jones is a hero IMO.

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loon

Either they knew Alex Jones would lose his mind over this or Alex Jones is in on it with them.
The BBC is serious media street and as such is full on NWO and was never going to take anything he says seriously, instead knowing he would rant baited him into doing so.
To those less informed sheeple he looked like a nutjob which served their purpose perfectly, to the rest of us
we see he again went too far, his problem is he never debates he just takes over and talks over the top of people.
On the other interview with the English journalist the TV presenter came across as a full on dick, he tried to bait the journo but the journo spoke respectfully and won the debate. Alex cannot do this without losing his mind.
You can never get a serious message across to the rank and file that way, the NWO know this which is why they are happy for him to vent on British national TV.
So he is either in on it with them or the many years of uncovering these terrible injustices and hidden conspiracies has taken its toll.
He needs a holiday because at present rants like this do more harm than good.
Which leads me to believe he is in on it and payed to make conspiracy theorists seem foolish.

Originally posted by pavil
I want to see Alex Jones and David Icke go at it........ they could Pay Per View it.

David Icke actually was interviewed on InfoWars once. I saw it. I think it's on Youtube someplace. I think Alex Jones started out saying that he'd been against Icke for years, but now he agreed with him.

The BBC knew what they were getting when they booked him. He's already had other offers to go onto 'Have I got News for you', since that appearance. He knows what he's doing, his behaviour attracts a lot of attention. He was trending within seconds of the interview on twitter. He's probably attracted more followers than by going on and just being quiet. He's probably put a lot of people off too.

My concern as someone who believes Bilderberg deserves serious scrutiny is the way the debate can now be closed. if you mention Bilderberg, the insinuation is your a crazy conspiracy theorist, which is one of the best ways to shut down the debate.

I knew this year, Bilderberg, would be ridiculed and those concerned, made to look like crazier loons.

You don't go on another show, an act as if it's your show.
You try to work within the framework of whatever opportunity you are given.
Jones didn't even attempt to do that. He tried to make ALL of his points at once.
He spouted a tirade of Conspiracy related "bumper-stickers" one after the other.

He didn't even attempt to allow himself to be interviewed.

He could have had himself invited back some other time, for some other topic. But no, he had to self-promote, barely taking a breath. Whatever Alex. do you have a calmer, more self-controlled protege anywhere? You could do us a favor and retire?

he is desperate but desperate listeners love that just like a few post at the beginning still find a way to justify, i could quote but why bother.

"he might be acting crazy or might not, its a plan, he got everything he needed to say to the people that watch BBC or the proof is BBC ridicule him."

sorry all ideas in one ^.

he is just an actor that knows his audience loves that... nuff said.

I'm not a fan of Alex Jones, but people that think anything will actually be changed by reasonable debate or democratic process are deluded. TPTB are deceivers that promote 'civilised' behaviour within their own nations, while ordering supposed charitable bombing campaigns of other nations. They have no honour and it's this adherence to what they call 'civilised' behaviour that allows them to conduct their evil.

Society isn't reasonable.