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Originally posted by Phoenix267
reply to post by AQuestion
Do you accept everything Mao said?
What do you mean by this comment? I'm just curious as to why you posted this in your reply.
Originally posted by AQuestion
Originally posted by Phoenix267
reply to post by AQuestion
If you wish to hold every Christian responsible for the saying of every Christian than Atheists must hold themselves responsible for everything people claiming to be Atheists say. Hold people accountable for what they say, don't say they must believe what others who have something in common with them say. There are stupid and bigoted people who call themselves Christians, there are also stupid and bigoted people who call themselves Atheists.
You say the above ...
... but also say the below:
What happens in a world where people believe they are all that matters and that when they die nothing matters, the ultimate in selfishness perspectives?
I think when you start generalizing you encourage generalizing as a response, and I personally believe this 'question' heavily implies that people who do not have faith in an after life must be somehow selfish beyond reason and logic.
Could say it's a little self invited.
Originally posted by Phoenix267
reply to post by GeisterFahrer
Thanks for the link. I'll have to read about it and see what it means. But what about the scientific method?
religion is intrinsically a selfish proposition that promises personal rewards to the "faithful". The God of the Bible constantly plies the reader with bribes and threats of personal gains or failures. The collective good is absent, division is king because "everyone else" is bound for hell and destruction.
Originally posted by Phoenix267
reply to post by GeisterFahrer
I was reading an entry from Rationalwiki about Hume's law. It's still confusing because I'm not the biggest fan of philosophy and at times I see philosophy being far away from rational thought.
Link
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by windword
Dear windword,
religion is intrinsically a selfish proposition that promises personal rewards to the "faithful". The God of the Bible constantly plies the reader with bribes and threats of personal gains or failures. The collective good is absent, division is king because "everyone else" is bound for hell and destruction.
LOL. That doesn't even make sense. "Religion is intrinsically a selfish proposition". Wow, what a bigoted statement. I didn't know that everyone who believes there is a God believed the same thing. I am confused, do Jews believe what Mormons believe? Do people who believe in reincarnation believe the same as Christians? I thought that Buddhists believed you were responsible and had to live with your choices until you only choose others over self.
Originally posted by GeisterFahrer
reply to post by windword
Have you ever read Revelation? There is promise of peace, but not in our lifetimes, and not on this planet.
there can never be peace, when there are those who exist who wish to destroy it.edit on 31-5-2013 by GeisterFahrer because: (no reason given)
WOW! Way to deflect! The God of the Bible !DOES! ply the reader with promises of personal gain or threats of failure. All religion is based on personal gain. That doesn't mean that there are not people who pray for world peace, through their religious avenues. For example, there is a sect of Buddhism, there are about 8.000 sects of Buddhism as opposed to some 80,000 plus sects of Christianity, who believe that chanting a certain phrase will raise the entire population of Earth's peoples sub subconscious mind to a higher level, therefore ushering in, in a sense, world peace.
Originally posted by windword
Originally posted by GeisterFahrer
reply to post by windword
Have you ever read Revelation? There is promise of peace, but not in our lifetimes, and not on this planet.
You Mormon?
there can never be peace, when there are those who exist who wish to destroy it.edit on 31-5-2013 by GeisterFahrer because: (no reason given)
Christians pray for the destruction of the planet. They do not pray for world peace, they have no commitment to the Earth and humanity. Everything they hope for is in the next life.