DPRK er North Korea calls for formal peace treaty!!!

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Thanks bekod! If you find anything on the Iran mention, please post it.

RT is now carrying the peace treaty story. Here's the link: ‘US opposes formal North-South peace treaty’ - Pyongyang (notice the title!)

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DPRK er North Korea calls for formal peace treaty!

I do believe that I recall that NK just got a new Defense Minister (unsure exact title). If this change could bring about a greater degree of peace in the region, then more power to it!

Unfortunately, I am not so sure that China would EVER allow NK to slip away and rejoin with the south. When East and West Germany reunited, the Soviet Union was in a freefall. China is in no way in such a state... in fact, its global domination capabilities are growing based on the foundations the west (mainly the US) supplied with its industrial plant.

There will always be a North Korea. Always...

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I have yet to find it, could be DPRK mind spin, but i have your link rt.com...
and no where does it say anything about the oping title

‘US opposes formal North-South peace treaty’ - Pyongyang

here is the full article for all to read, from the link

‘US opposes formal North-South peace treaty’ - Pyongyang
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Published time: May 29, 2013 13:48
Edited time: May 29, 2013 14:40
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. (Reuters / KCNA)
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. (Reuters / KCNA)
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North Korea, which has been unpredictable in its rhetorical outbursts of late, expressed its desire for an official peace treaty with South Korea. The two nations have been officially at war since the start of the Korean War in 1950.

Pyongyang on Wednesday called for substituting an armistice signed at the end of the Korean War in 1953 with a formal peace treaty to improve stability on the Korean Peninsula, according to Yonhap, the South Korean news agency.

In an article carried by the Rodong Sinmun, the official newspaper of the Workers' Party of Korea, it was argued that efforts to preserve the armistice that brought the three-year conflict to a close in July 1953 can only be viewed as an attempt to rekindle another war.

"There is a pressing need to replace the Armistice Agreement, which is a relic of the war, with a permanent peace regime," the paper said.

Had a formal peace been signed between the North and South following the war, the current impasse over the question of nuclear weapons on the Korean Peninsula would not have become an issue in the first place, the paper added.

A screen shows a rocket being launched from an onboard camera at the West Sea Satellite Launch Site, at North Korea's satellite control centre in Cholsan county, North Pyongan province, in this photo released by Kyodo December 12, 2012. (Reuters / KCNA)
A screen shows a rocket being launched from an onboard camera at the West Sea Satellite Launch Site, at North Korea's satellite control centre in Cholsan county, North Pyongan province, in this photo released by Kyodo December 12, 2012. (Reuters / KCNA)

It is “unnatural” for a cease-fire pact to be maintained for 60 years and if a disastrous situation were to develop on the Korean Peninsula, the blame for such a development will rest solely on the shoulders of the U.S. that resisted all moves to sign a peace treaty, it continued.

The Korean War (1950-1953) saw the US military, under the aegis of the UN, field over 300,000 troops alongside South Korean forces in a battle against Chinese-supported forces in the North. The conflict left the Korean Peninsula physically and politically divided along the 38th parallel, known as the Korean Demilitarized Zone, a 250 kilometer (160 mile) long, 4 km (2.5 mi) wide buffer that has been described as the most heavily militarized border in the world.

Today, some 28,500 US military personnel are stationed inside South Korea, and this intensive military cooperation between the two countries remains a perennial source of concern for Pyongyang.

Every year, the US and South Korea conduct military exercises (dubbed Key Resolve and Foal Eagle) that invariably attract heated accusations from Pyongyang that the maneuvers are preparatory steps for war.

Furthermore, the military games between South Korea and the US are not only seen as a provocation, but a direct violation of the 1953 armistice agreement, Pyongyang argues. The recluse Communist nation says it was obliged, therefore, to unilaterally nullify the cease-fire pact in direct response to these “threats.”

U.S. (L) and South Korea Marines participate in a U.S.-South Korea joint landing operation drill in Pohang, about 370 km (230 miles) southeast of Seoul, April 26, 2013. (Reuters / Lee Jae Won)
U.S. (L) and South Korea Marines participate in a U.S.-South Korea joint landing operation drill in Pohang, about 370 km (230 miles) southeast of Seoul, April 26, 2013. (Reuters / Lee Jae Won)

On February 12, 2013, North Korea delivered more than heated rhetoric when it announced it had conducted an underground nuclear test, the third such detonation in seven years.

The UN Security Council responded endorsed a fourth round of sanctions against Pyongyang, while the United States cut it off the Foreign Trade Bank of Korea from the American financial system.

North Korea amplified its heated rhetoric, vowing to launch a preemptive first-strike nuclear attack against the United States that would engulf Washington in a "sea of fire."

Despite these very serious and disturbing threats, the seemingly unpredictable behavior coming out of Pyongyang seems to follow the iron-bound trajectory of an amusement park roller coaster, which, after one has rode it enough times, the wicked turns and bends no longer carry the same level of white-knuckle fear they originally did.

Meanwhile, the recluse communist country is showing tepid signs of opening up.

Before and after the North conducted its underground tests, it hosted two high-profile US individuals. Eric Schmidt, the executive chairman of Google, met politicians and toured computer research centers in Pyongyang during a surprise four-day trip in January. One month later, just after North Korean the nuclear test, ex-NBA star Dennis Rodman, and three members of the Harlem Globetrotters, paid a visit to the communist country.

So with powerful gestures on the one hand, and warm hospitality for US personalities on the other, one gets the sense that North Korea, while very concerned about the situation on the peninsula, is firing warning desperate warning shots, while not completely confident about its situation.

Robert Bridge, RT

if some finds them words US opposes formal North-South peace treaty’ place post the line it is in

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Never say always , we seem to forget the "there will be always be the USSR", now it is just Russia.There is North Korea a for now, South Korea, US, this could all change not saying it will, but one never knows.

Originally posted by bekod
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if some finds them words US opposes formal North-South peace treaty’ place post the line it is in

Yep!! I even did a word search for "opposes" in the article just to make sure I did not read over it. Gotta love all the spin!!

Originally posted by bekod
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Never say always , we seem to forget the "there will be always be the USSR", now it is just Russia.There is North Korea a for now, South Korea, US, this could all change not saying it will, but one never knows.

I will stand corrected... for the moment

This is how North Korea works. Threats of war and death and then offers of peace and love, under the condition of course to begin talks on such a thing as soon as some food and oil are sent free of charge. This is how it goes, over and over.

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yep seems RT is falling for the MSM Main Spin Madness, and they used to be straight forward with news, when there was no other source for the truth, time to doubt RT news as well.

NK wants peace treaty

Begins sabre rattling

NK wants peace treaty

Begins sabre rattling

rinse, wash, and repeat. I feel sorry for the peasants that live under the rule of those psychotics.

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oh yea like this one www.usip.org... from the link

Peace Agreements Digital Collection
North Korea-South Korea >> Declaration on the A
dvancement of South-North Korean Relations,
Peace and Prosperity
Declaration on the Advancement of South-Nort
h Korean Relations, Peace and Prosperity
October 4, 2007
In accordance with the agreement between Presid
ent Roh Moo-hyun of the Republic of Korea and
Chairman Kim Jong Il of the National Defense Comm
ission of the Democratic
People’s Republic of
Korea, President Roh visited Pyongyang from October 2-4, 2007.
During the visit, there were hist
oric meetings and discussions.
At the meetings and talks, the two side
s have reaffirmed the spirit of the
June 15 Joint Declaration
and had frank discussions on various
issues related to realizing
the advancement of South-North
relations, peace on the Korean Peninsula, common
prosperity of the Korean people and unification
of Korea.

it goes on

Expressing confidence that they can forge a new er
a of national prosperity and unification on their
own initiative if they combine their
will and capabilities, the two sides declare as follows, in order to
expand and advance South-No
rth relations based on the
June 15 Joint Declaration
:
1.
The South and the North shall uphold and e
ndeavor actively to
realize the June 15
Declaration.
The South and the North have agreed to reso
lve the issue of unification on their own
initiative and according to the spirit of
"by-the-Korean-people-themselves."
The South and the North will work out ways to commemorate the June 15 anniversary of the
announcement of the
South-North Joint Declaration
to reflect the common will to faithfully
carry it out.
2.
The South and the North have agreed to firmly
transform inter-Korean relations into ties of
mutual respect and trust, transcending th
e differences in ideology and systems.
The South and the North have agreed not to inte
rfere in the internal affairs of the other and
agreed to resolve inter-Korean issues in
the spirit of reconc
iliation, cooperation and
reunification.
The South and the North have agreed to overhaul
their respective legislative and institutional
apparatuses in a bid to devel
op inter-Korean relations in a re
unification-oriented direction.

i do apologize for the way it is copping to busy to edit, it continues

The South and the North have agreed to proa
ctively pursue dialogue and contacts in various
areas, including the legislatures of the two Ko
reas,in order to resolv
e matters concerning the
expansion and advancement of inter-Korean relati
ons in a way that meets the aspirations of
the entire Korean people.
3.
The South and the North have agreed to closely work together to put an end to military
hostilities, mitigate tensions and guar
antee peace on the Korean Peninsula.
The South and the North have agreed not to
antagonize each other, reduce military tension,
and resolve issues in disput
e through dialogue
and negotiation.
The South and the North have agreed to oppose
war on the Korean Peninsula and to adhere
strictly to their oblig
ation to nonaggression.
The South and the North have agreed to hold ta
lks between the South’s Minister of Defense
and the North’s Minister of th
e People’s Armed Forces in Pyongyang in November to discuss
ways of designating a joint fishing area in th
e West Sea to avoid accidental clashes and
turning it into a peace area and also to discuss measures to build military confidence,
including security guarantees fo
r various cooperative projects.
4.
The South and the North both recognize the need
to end the current armistice regime and
build a permanent peace regime.
The South and the North have also agreed to work together
to advance the matter of having th
e leaders of the three or four
parties directly concerned to
convene on the Peninsula and declare an end to the war.
With regard to the nuclear issue on the Kor
ean Peninsula, the South and the North have
agreed to work together to implement sm
oothly the September 19, 2005 Joint Statement and
the February 13, 2007 Agreement achieved at the Six-Party Talks.
5.
The South and the North have agreed to faci
litate, expand, and further develop inter-Korean
economic cooperation projects on a continual basis for balanced economic development and
co-prosperity on the Korean Peninsula in accordance with the principles of common
interests, co-prosperity and mutual aid.
The South and the North reached an ag
reement on promoting economic cooperation,
including investments, pushing forward with
the building of infrastructure and the
development of natural resources. Given the
special nature of in
ter-Korean cooperative
projects, the South and the North have agreed to
grant preferential conditions and benefits to
those projects.
The South and the North have agreed to create
a “special peace and cooperation zone in the
West Sea” encompassing Haeju and vicinity in
a bid to proactively push ahead with the
creation of a joint fishing zone and maritime
peace zone, establishment of a special economic
zone, utilization of Haeju harbor
, passage of civilian vessels via direct routes in Haeju and
the joint use of the Han River estuary.
The South and the North have agreed to co
mplete the first-phase construction of the
Gaeseong Industrial Complex at an early date
and embark on the second-stage development
project. The South and the North have agreed
to open freight rail se
rvices between Munsan
and Bongdong and promptly complete various ins
titutional measures, including those related
to passage, communication, and cu
stoms clearance procedures.
The South and the North have agreed to discus
s repairs of the Gaeseong-Sinuiju railroad and
the Gaeseong-Pyongyang expressw
ay for their joint use.
The South and the North have agreed to esta
blish cooperative complexes for shipbuilding in
Anbyeon and Nampo, while continuing cooperative
projects in various areas such as
agriculture, health and medical serv
ices and environmental protection.
The South and the North have agreed to upgr
ade the status of the existing Inter-Korean
Economic Cooperation Promotion Committee to a Joint Committee for Inter-Korean
Economic Cooperation to be headed by de
puty prime minister-level officials.
6.
The South and the North have agreed to boost
exchanges and cooperation
in the social areas
covering history, language, education, science and
technology, culture and
arts, and sports to
highlight the long history and excelle
nt culture of the Korean people.
The South and the North have agreed to car
ry out tours to Mt.
Baekdu and open nonstop
flight services between Seoul a
nd Mt. Baekdu for this purpose.
The South and the North have agreed to send a
joint cheering squad from both sides to the
2008 Beijing Olympic Games. The squad will use the Gyeongui Railway Line for the first-
ever joint Olympic cheering.
7.
The South and the North have agreed to activ
ely promote humanitarian
cooperation projects.
The South and the North have agreed to e
xpand reunion of separated family members and
their relatives and promote ex
changes of video messages.
To this end, the South and the North have agreed
to station resident re
presentatives from each
side at the reunion center at Mt. Geumgang when
it is completed and regularize reunions of
separated family members and their relatives.
The South and the North have agreed to activel
y cooperate in case of emergencies, including
natural disasters, according to the principles
of fraternal love, humanitarianism and mutual
assistance.
8.
The South and the North have agreed to increas
e cooperation to promote
the interests of the Korean people and the rights and interests of
overseas Koreans on the international stage.
9.
The South and the North have agreed to hold
inter-Korean prime ministers’ talks for the
implementation of this Declaration and have ag
reed to hold the first
round of meetings in
November 2007 in Seoul.
10.
The South and the North have agre
ed that their highest
authorities will meet frequently for
the advancement of relations between the two sides.
Oct. 4, 2007
Pyongyang

well that one was , as DPRK put it turned out to be TP, and the DPRK is the one whom decide it to be arse wipe

oooh....NK wants a peace treaty, sends a shiver down my spine...yes, yes, yes!!!! USA and SK opposing it? darn those 2 warmongers!

BUT HANG ON A SEC!

A Treaty without terms? UNCONDITIONAL? From the Fat Boy????

ROFL!!!

Sigh.....

There is NO treaty. The only treaty fat boy wants is for USA and Sk grovel on the ground and call him the divine being, and will do ALL his biddings, including no obstruction to nuke weapons.

Who does the fat boy thinks he can fool yet again?

No. No need to be fooled yet again. His call for treaties and the return of execs to the kaesong park and other sweet words are no more than TOTALLY DESPERATE needs for cash and food aid, hiddened deep within hateful rhetorics.

His troops are hungry and the masses turing to canabilism. His Fat arse is now viewed with lip smacking drool as a source of food.

Let him sweat and his people starve.

He should know the PRICE of being belligerant to threaten the world with nuke armageddon and rivers of blood BS. He should be made an example of, so that any other idiot leader that decides not to play by the rule so international law, standard and behaviors sharing our world, would be met with the same response by us mankind - apathy.

No need for USA and SK to jump at his command. Tell him we will take time to consider their offer - 6 months, then another 6 months to make travel and security arrangements to discuss the issue, and another year for congress to decide. Hopefully, long before that, he will be on his knees begging for forgiveness, as his soldiers and masses will be sharpening their knives to feed on the Kim dynasty for lunch.

Play him like a fiddle, instead of being fiddled by him. USA and SK had long been fiddled enough by NK. Time to change the script. After all, he will not give up on nukes for sure and all talks will only be a waste of time, precious time that is needed sorely eslewhere in the socio-political - economic spheres of USA and SK.

If he had not learnt his lesson and decides to threatened nuke launches or even nuke wars, then he should know what to expect - the TOTAL EXTINCTION of the kim dynasty and military within hours. There is no bunker deep enough to hide. If China and Russia is idiotic enough to make noise, just ask them what would they have done if a rogue small state threaten to launch nukes at their own country. Self preservation will shut their belligerant mouths.

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So it is a smart move, lets hope the US and South Korea take it serious and end this frozen state of war once and for all. It is in the best interest of everyone.

Devil is in the details. They aren't going to sign a peace treaty just to stabilize the area. No, they want something. And there are plenty of items in that category.... They have a big wishlist.

Question is, how much of it are we willing to grant for another worthless peace of paper? (I say worthless, as NK repeatedly has shown an unwillingness to live up to ANY agreements.....)

Simply put, we called his bluff, now he's scrambling to save face, and still cast us as the bad guys. Something has happened that we aren't being told yet...that's for sure. Anyone know the last time Kim made a public appearance?

Lil' Kim got a call from China. 'Knock it off or you're on your own'
"Yes, Boss"

It never ends with NK. I can remember sitting next to my step-dad and watching the news and it's the same exact thing, nearly three decades later!.

I don't think it's a good idea, putting young adults with little to no life experience in positions of authority. I just hope his handlers have a tight lease on their pup - because he's quite mad in my opinion.

We can hope that peace comes to that region and their oppressed society is freed from tyrannical rule, we shall see. I should like to see that for the whole world, and burn down corporatism, but we shall see... There is a lot of change in the world I wish for, but what can one inconsequential person do? Spout out my opinion and spread it around like manure? Check, I do that! That's the problem with the world right now. Everyone is always waiting for someone else to get the ball rolling... and those with the influence and resources to get that ball rolling, deflated it - long ago. Hey, they got bread and butter - why should they have to share it with everyone else to?

So where NK is concerned, I shrug - It's been this way now for decades. I'll be surprised and do a happy dance when the people of North Korea finally put their foot down and say - enough is enough. But until that day, all I can do is hope, all they continue to do, is foam at the mouth with a bark worse than their bite.

Cirque

reply to post by Gazrok


There could very well be a hidden agenda.

I just kind of hope for the best.

But you are correct, something is not right.

Actually my first thought on the subject was that you make friends with your enemy and then cut their throat when they are not looking.
The optimist in me over ran the pessimist.
The details are something the US would never agree to, and rightfully so as it stands..
But I would love to see a resolution to North and South Korea that does not involve an all out war.

reply to post by Gazrok
Ill get to your question in a sec , but i got to ask , you got to have ideas on what Un is up too, I would like to see what your thinking , speculation is welcomed on this here thread, none will be put down , might be corrected, that is to say if it is too far out, ill or someone will point out the faults with it.

Say Un ate to much and can not get out of seat, so looking through his desk he found the old peace treaty and wants his name on it not his dads. Fault with this is:

first of all, Un could never eat to much, secondly doubt he can read.

now to your question Has Un been seen in public yes may 27th so says KCNA news he went and seen... well here see for your self, why take my word for it www.kcna.kp... form the link

Kim Jong Un Visits Fishery Station under KPA Unit

There now that he has been seen in public or it could be a double, [that's an other thought ] Un is up too something China could have told him make peace or else. But something did happen to make him er DPRK want a Peace Treaty all of a sudden.

This might be the reason as to why Un wants Peace Treaty China has had it with Un and the DPRK www.koreaherald.com... from the link

Park, Xi likely to adopt statement on 'denuclearization' of N. Korea

Published : 2013-05-30 13:16
Updated : 2013-05-30 13:16
President Park Geun-hye and Chinese President Xi Jinping are likely to adopt a joint declaration that includes the "denuclearization" of North Korea, after their summit talks set for late next month, a diplomatic source in Seoul said Thursday.

South Korea and China have been in the midst of fine-tuning the language to be used in the joint declaration, the source said on the condition of anonymity. Park is scheduled to visit China late next month for her first summit with Xi since taking office in February.

"The North Korean nuclear issue is an important part of the joint declaration," the source said. "There is a high possibility that the word denuclearization will be included in the joint declaration in regard to solving the nuclear issue of North Korea."

If included, it would demonstrate the new Chinese government's willingness to step up efforts to get North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons program, according to the source.

In a meeting with Xi in Beijing last week, a North Korean special envoy, sent by North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, said Pyongyang is willing to rejoin the long-stalled six-nation talks on its nuclear weapons program, according to Chinese media reports.

During the meeting, Xi told the North's envoy, Vice Marshal Choe Ryong-hae, that denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula should be achieved no matter how the situation changes.

Nonetheless, strong doubts persist about the North's true intentions after its media conspicuously failed to mention the envoy's remarks made to Xi concerning the six-party talks. The forum, which involves the two Koreas, the U.S., China, Japan and Russia, has been suspended since late 2008.

North Korea quit the six-party forum in a dispute over how to verify steps it was supposed to take to disarm. Early this year, the North conducted its third nuclear test and declared that its nuclear programs are non-negotiable. (Yonhap News)

Yonhap?/ how did i miss that???? oh well one source form there is as good as the other one .. for now .

reply to post by bekod

you got to have ideas on what Un is up too, I would like to see what your thinking , speculation is welcomed on this here thread, none will be put down , might be corrected, that is to say if it is too far out, ill or someone will point out the faults with it.

My personal theory is that since he's run out of bargaining chips, he's "creating" one...the peace treaty. He's going to dangle the carrot, but only if it includes recognition of NK as a nuclear state. Now, he knows, and we know, that isn't going to happen, but that is fine, because the "offer" of a treaty is still going to help him reinforce NK as the "good guy" or so he thinks. He'll then agree to the six party talks (no doubt after some aid is received), where he'll stall yet again, and make even more lame promises, etc. (and of course blaming the US, SK, and China as blocking peace).

And then, he'll do a test months from now, and we'll be right back where we started with in all this mess.

I really hope I'm wrong, but I'm likely not.

They should really stick to their convictions, makes them look weak.

Seriously though, I wouldn't want China and the US breathing down my neck anymore either.

If Mr Un is serious in his peace offers, he can make a start by closing down the concentration camps and freeing North Korea. That will show NK is serious about peace. Until then I don't trust one word from NK who has adopted Nazi style concentration camps and killing its own people.

If anything the whole regime should be put on trial for crimes against humanity.