AP Ties Boston Bombings To Online Conspiracy Sites

I don't know why some folks are relieved that ATS wasn't mentioned in the report... Most people aren't going to understand the difference. All you need is one loose screw and there's instantly an excuse to crack down on all sorts of other "conspiracy" sites. It's kind of like Muslims having to deal with daily pressure (post 9/11 especially), thanks to the actions of extremists.

Change the word of the day from "terrorist" to "conspiracy theorist" and suddenly you have a nation against you.

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Ah If i missed it it was my bad. I sincerely didn't see a second page, but I was on my phone.

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Why would the government have any reason to go after conspiracy sites? Name one instance where what has been discussed on sites like ATS have made an actual impact on the world. Even when the facts about actual false flags come out, like the Gulf of Tonkin, nothing changes. Nobody was punished, we still went to war, and I would be surprised if history books still say we were actually attacked. The truth is we aren't a threat to anyone. They have no reason to come after us.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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Why would the government have any reason to go after conspiracy sites? Name one instance where what has been discussed on sites like ATS have made an actual impact on the world. Even when the facts about actual false flags come out, like the Gulf of Tonkin, nothing changes. Nobody was punished, we still went to war, and I would be surprised if history books still say we were actually attacked. The truth is we aren't a threat to anyone. They have no reason to come after us.

Why would they go after conspiracy sites, well I would have to say that conspiracy sites have been exposing the real agenda being perpetrated on the masses. And it seems to be uncontrolled unlike corporate media.

In other words its the last place that actual free speech remains. Where the real truth seems to be discussed. And not some main stream media brainwash that most people seem to be affected by.

It makes them nervous that there agenda for a one world government and false flag attacks are being exposed and the lies they tell. They want to control your mind and thoughts. They cant easily do that in open media where the user gets to choose what he sees.

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For one the amount of competing theories that appear for each and every event means that even we don't know if we truly discover the truth. Then there's the fact that even if we discover some secret truth the masses as a whole don't care about anything we say. They just pass it off as crazy talk. So how are TPTB threatened when we can't even agree amongst ourselves and the majority of the population don't listen to anything we say? I'll ask again, name one instance where what is discussed on here has had an actual impact on the real world?

There was something odd which occurred shortly before the bombs went off in Boston. I dont know how to insert a picture but this can be found here www.jimstonefreelance.com... There was post on glp 90 min before the first bomb went off, this post basically said this would happen without mentioning the city. This post appears to have been wiped from the site. I dont know for sure as I was banned recently for asking if the site had been sold. There were numerous posts by Trinity (who owned the site) that he wanted to sell it. This was never followed up and when I mentioned it I was instantly banned. Something to look into.

Warning some pictures from link above might be troublesome and nsfw.

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I'm not sure what you are wanting people to see at that link, but you should post a warning that there is a picture of someone's head blown off on that page. ATS is not a gore porn site.

As for posting pics, this thread gives great instructions: Uploading and Embedding Pictures on ATS 2013

Why are people so surprised about this?

Conspiracy sites tend to attract those that are mentally unbalanced. I see threats and warning signs on here all the time...people claiming they are close to snapping, or they wished someone would do something about the government.

Hell, awhile back there was even a member who specifically claimed that they were going to single handed start the next American Revolution. Everytime some tragedy happens, I am just waiting for it to be that person.

This is not going to end well for you and I (aka, the people). The government's disdain for conspiracy websites/forums/theorists is NOT a conspiracy. It's a well known FACT. (for everyone calling this sensationalism). Ever heard of Cass Sunstein???

Actually I'm starting to see a pattern. When people are waking up more they call more wars and events. But there is a good thread here on end of April Sacrifices. Worth looking into their occult rituals. I mean TPTB.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well since 9/11, according the surveys, the majority have expressed they will not trade freedoms for so called tyranny and protection:

fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...

What I see in the tug of war is dark hats scrambling to try and shut down awareness, trying to pass laws that will be overturned in courts sooner preferably, or later, and and upping North Korea yet again because Boston didn't get people to tip over.

They need permissions to overtake freedom this is a testing ground, and they don't got em and aint going to get them.

I see a desperate bunch myself.

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Here is my example: ATS members reported abuse at Guantanamo weeks before main stream media began to report it. Would the mainstream media have ever reported it if ATS members hadn't first?

ATS members brought the abuse to light first! So yea we do make a difference here first.

Exposing hidden agendas is what we do best here, so do we pose a threat to their plans, well I like to think we do. We bring attention to the news others don't carry. And sometimes we do influence mainstream media to cover news. We are a collective of free thinkers.

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My bad. I overlooked that. Ill be more mindful next time.

Originally posted by gps777
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You can lead a horse to a news paper but you can`t make him read or understand it.

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Lol, I'm sure eventually the horse would drink water, but I was'nt aware horses could read or even understand the english text in a newspaper, then again I could be "trolling" sorry could'nt help myself I started cracking up when I saw that.
But one thing is for sure though, this really does cast a bad spotlight on our little tight nit community here, ugh just like people who try an look into your house as they are walking by, the umwanted intrusions are a pain, letd hope the gov does'nt use this as a scapegoat to take away our little nest. I won'nt stand for it.

Originally posted by LogicGrind
Why are people so surprised about this?

Conspiracy sites tend to attract those that are mentally unbalanced. I see threats and warning signs on here all the time...people claiming they are close to snapping, or they wished someone would do something about the government.

Hell, awhile back there was even a member who specifically claimed that they were going to single handed start the next American Revolution. Everytime some tragedy happens, I am just waiting for it to be that person.

I'm on iPad so bear with the typos, OK...I don't normally articulate in depth online anymore, for reasons I won't get into, but here are a few points that need to be examined. What you do with them is up to you. First of all, the hint that conspiracy sites "tend" to attract those that are unbalanced is a typical Distraction method, used by Social Engineers who work in psyops, fact. Not saying You are, you probably are simply stating what many are lead to believe, that's part of the FEAR conditioning. Only two words a psyops needs, and that is Reasonable Doubt. That can work in two ways, obviously, but thought engineers love this one because the minute a Class enemy or Statist enemy begins to offer Legitiamate Questions the first thing to do is to distract other "followers" with the "why they must be Crazy". The demonization of crazy, is its own exile effect. No one likes to be ostracized, exiled from the social cohesion. For Group Think to work any and all Critical Indivual thinking must NOT be tolerated, because a hegemony is the end means. The engineer knows majority are unread in history, anthropology, political geography (global) and resources, they know this, so manipulating is already IN their favor. That of course is by design. So even let's say, a theory that is way out there, IF it prompts a reader to further EXAMINE facts given by the status quo then THAT is the danger, and THAT is what the engineers want to stop.

They do not care really about the reactionaries, they can be easily manipulated to do what the STATE so desires to meet STATE goals. So it isn't the "crazies" they are concerned about...it's the Potential "intelligent" ones they ARE concerned about. In EVERY planned out annihilation for a new STATE order, the intelligensia is targeted for extermination, in EVERY one. Any who do not comply with the STATE thought for PROGRESS has to go, including ones who are Loyal to the cause but who are intelligent enough to one day be a threat that would disrupt centralized power. People underestimate TOTALITARIANISM, because they do not UNDERSTAND TOTALITARIANISM. When Conspiracy sites, feminist sites, ANY political, philosophical, even a literature site receives massive INTEREST and that interest Causes many to Question, THAT IS A THREAT TO THE TOTALITARIAN ORDER Period. No ans, ifs, or buts about it. You do NOT have to be crazy, you do Not have to be militant, you simply have to have the capability to THINK outside the paradigm of the engineers protocol. And No I am not referring to the whole Zionist thing, this is in ANY fascist leaning totalitarian order be it military regime, junta, monarchy, dictatorship or centralized vanguard, etc.

If you Don't think the more the police state clamps down its jaws that EVERYTHING and I do mean EVERYTHING even what ART you buy won't be scrutinized under a fine tooth comb, then You don't have a clue as to what full totalitarian police state looks like. When you feel SUFFOCATED from EVERY angle, THEN you'll Know. When you walk and live and breathe in fear every minute second guessing and Policing yourself because IF YOU DON'T, you could wind up in a torture chair, THEN you will know, what totalitarianism is and every step taken to GET to that point, all those little INSIGNIFICANT things implemented years ago, will begin to make sense.

The targeting of Conspiracy sites, is what I term as a "soft purge". Doesn't have to be conspiracy, it could be a mothers group demanding answers to Why their children are being killed off under the auspices of justice. The Problem is, for too long Americans have been lied to, led to believe that we are a Moral nation, a Safe nation, and that it's only THOSE Evil nations that exterminate their own...Most are so unaware of our own history it's not even funny, other than the Cherry Picked history so conveniently selected by the engineers to Dupe everyone. There is a Reason why in schools, (prior to revisionism which dumbed down worse) the focus was on WWII but not barely a Mention on WWI, or even Korea. WHY? No one asks, they simply take it for granted. There is a Reason why Stalinism was taught but little on the Oriental Congress or Ottoman Empire and Balkanization of Middle East, WHY? And Barely if ANYTHING taught on the relationship between Spain, Franco, Cuba and the US, WHY? No one asks, no one cares...We know about Hitler but not Franco/Mussolini, WHY?

Continued...Even conspiracy sites can be utilized as a dumbing down or distraction method, but see the problem with this end, is that most on conspiracy sites are There because they are ASKING the questions to begin with. So yes they would be targeted, they are already monitored, obviously. They'll go after the ones (sub groups, etc) who have ability to do something...again however, and this I think is a bit hilarious at how so Few know this bit of history, and that is, engineers WILL use reactionary groups to do their dirty work. Lenin did this, they used the anarchists quite often to do the disruption they so desired, and it worked like a charm. That's just one example, out of many...

What I find amazing is how few want to even think that Yes governments use hostile groups, even their enemies (those they know they can control or keep subdued) to do violent acts to further statist aims. Happens all the time and always has. Proving it on the other hand, that's a different matter, but we Know from history, even our own declassified docs that yes, governments have done this time and time and time again. The Justification for it has been in this nation, for the overall moral good against a "common enemy". That's what citizens have been Duped into believing. I say duped because IF you really study in depth, our policies in South America for example, you see quite a different picture, and the totalitarian death machine has been in works for a Very, Very long time. And NOT just America either...pay attention to Holland, oh yes. (Argentina, South Africa, you can look into, since WWII).

Any who are a Threat to the mind binding, why they look for those who have "followers" that go against the grain, yes are targeted. Teachers, scientists, authors, actors, artists, you name it, they'll target them all, one by one by one. They WANT people who DON'T question, Anything, who don't even exercise their own will. And they'll do Any thing, to get to that level of control.

As for Revolution, as their looking at conspiracy sites, I'll give it to you straight. As Trotsky himself said, you don't Make revolution. Simply put, there is not enough Misery to drive a revolution here and the engineers know it. But they'll use Reactionaries, even provoke them, to further their own aims. I'd be more concerned with them provoking civil unrest, to carry out genocide in part.

As for this whole thing in Boston, a few things don't add up...for starters, I find it curiously odd that the vocal cords are stripped out of one of the suspects. (I haven't been keeping up with the whole media circus because quite frankly I wouldn't believe ninety percent of the lies anyway) but anyway, That is strange, as well as a bit telling. What they didn't want him to talk? Hmmmmm

Secondly, what's their Motive? Something else that is a bit bothersome, is Usually, when it's any kind of Islamist terror they usually off themselves as well, not so in this case. just little things like that, without even Knowing the events in their Entirity or keeping up with the media circus, just throw wrenches in the whole thing and That's without even reading or listening to all the conspiracies about it. Sure doesn't fit the Profile, from what little I know about Chechnya, and the attacks in Russia and so forth, doesn't even fit Those either. But now what IS strange, is that, media doesn't ASK these questions and Everyone just watches and goes Yea see such and such news reported and believes and THAT is dangerous. When Americans don't even KNOW where Chechnya is on the map, that's some dumbed down # right there. I would bet money most don't know about the Gendercides in Chechnya, Russia hasn't been innocent of war crimes, hardly. Which had a lot to do with fueling the fundamentalism...how I know, women's rights, years ago there was huge outcries about this. Haven't kept up with events there in a few years because of other issues but yea, uh, just a lot that doesn't add up on so many levels,

So no, I wouldn't be a bit surprised at the many allegations or suspicions, and what's disturbing and should be, is when Citizens demand Transparency and instead they get labeled crazy, That's a very strong warning that all is not as it appears. And the to further ostracize questionable thoughts, by mainstream media even, without them themselves doing what they SHOULD be doing and that is ASKING those questions, then uh, it would be Crazy to NOT seek alternative media, etc. even conspiracy sites...better yet,

A library and get into the foreign journals and start doing some investigative learning. (before they censor those...and they will)