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Originally posted by JuniorDisco
...but that he was allowed to walk away with barely a question asked.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
A potential settlement doesn't prove guilt; rather it proves the HOA doesn't want to bother with litigation and is offering a buyout. They are not inherently bad, for either party and proves nothing.
Originally posted by Golf66
Thus reinforcing my theory that some people should not be allowed to breed...
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
A potential settlement doesn't prove guilt; rather it proves the HOA doesn't want to bother with litigation and is offering a buyout. They are not inherently bad, for either party and proves nothing.
There ya' go. Exactly what I was saying. 'Deep pockets' get hit with lawsuits all the time that they just pay off rather than go to court with. It's usually cheaper and they can get rid of the 'complaint' quicker. Payoff in this case means nothing as far as if Zimmerman is guilty or innocent. It just means that the Home Owners Association gave Martins parents a boatload of money and now they'll leave the Home Owners Association alone ...
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by JuniorDisco
...but that he was allowed to walk away with barely a question asked.
Then we should expect a civil and possibly a criminal case (depending on the outcome of the criminal case already in motion) from the Martin family if that is the case. The Martin family should surely be asking why the State initially took the stand they did by not at least pursuing that avenue. Though, they will have a large task ahead of them since Zimmerman was questioned for a good amount of time before he was let go.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
It wasn't as if the police showed up, saw the scene and just let Zimmerman go home.
Originally posted by verylowfrequency
The settlement was made because clearly the HA condoned both current and prior actions of Zimmerman by allowing him to continue his operations.
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
Originally posted by FlyersFan
It just means that the Home Owners Association gave Martins parents a boatload of money and now they'll leave the Home Owners Association alone ...
And why not? They've got bigger fish to fry and the needless death of their son to motivate them.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
The goal should be to deny injustice, not seek justice.
I have no opinion on the civil portion of the case. That is a private matter between Martin's family and the HOA; not the State v. Zimmerman. A potential settlement doesn't prove guilt; rather it proves the HOA doesn't want to bother with litigation and is offering a buyout. They are not inherently bad, for either party and proves nothing.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Take the following out of your post "...for killing a young man woh was just minding his own business..." and I agree. We don't know that.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
Originally posted by FlyersFan
It just means that the Home Owners Association gave Martins parents a boatload of money and now they'll leave the Home Owners Association alone ...
And why not? They've got bigger fish to fry and the needless death of their son to motivate them.
And why not? Big money is big money .... get it while the gett'n is good. As far as the 'needless death of their son' being the motivation for going after all that money ... maybe. Or maybe the money is the motivation for going after the money. Maybe grief is the motivation. Maybe money is the motivation. We'll probably not know the truth.
As for the death of their son 'being needless' .. I'll let the courts decide that during the trial. They can decide if Zimmerman needed to shoot an (alleged) attacker who was pounding his head into the pavement, or not.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Then we should expect a civil and possibly a criminal case (depending on the outcome of the criminal case already in motion) from the Martin family if that is the case.
The Martin family should surely be asking why the State initially took the stand they did by not at least pursuing that avenue.
Though, they will have a large task ahead of them since Zimmerman was questioned for a good amount of time before he was let go.
It wasn't as if the police showed up, saw the scene and just let Zimmerman go home.
Originally posted by TinkerHaus
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I am simply going to say this.... If my son were shot and killed and I believed it to be in bad faith or a bad shoot? I wouldn't settle for a billion. No number would be enough to stop me from having my day in the light of open court. That day would be the last voice my son, in that circumstance, would ever have in this world to have a voice raised for him. It would never come again.
We all have different priorities. ...and there I leave it, without getting into the patently objectionable for my deeper feelings on the story.
This is a settlement for negligence on behalf of the HOA.
Originally posted by TinkerHaus
Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by TinkerHaus
If Zimmerman wasn't part of the neighborhood watch, and not controlled by the neighborhood watch, then how could the parents have sued the neighborhood watch because of Zimmerman? I'm not following. Zimmerman had a walkie talkie that went to law enforcement, right?
It was pretty clearly explained - there had been complaints against Zimmerman in the past and he was allowed to go vigilante wanna-be batman anyway.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
The settlement was probably made because the Home Owners Association wanted the allegations to be out of their hair and they wanted to move on. If the Home Owners Association 'condoned both current and prior actions of Zimmerman' then they'd be backing their guy fully and not paying out a dime ... at least until they saw how the trial was going to go.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
I think you are way over the top with the "batman" thing here.
Add to this that the HOA did not necessarily have the legal tools or other means to prevent Zimmerman from wandering the street there. He was a resident in the community and had the right to take a stroll any time of the day, just as I do where I live. Try to stop me.
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
reply to post by buddhasystem
I can get why some people are defending Z's "innocent until proven guilty" status re the illegal killing of TM, but what I don't get is how anyone can defend his behaviour up to the moment he ended contact with the NEN, and try and claim they were the actions of a reasonable man?
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
Almost everything he did that night prior to killing TM could be put in a Neighbourhood Watch "What NOT To Do!" manual
i seriously doubt that unless you're a resident here
I have access to the same information any other interested person has access to.