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I can see the "silence the voice angle" to be certain.
Originally posted by Hopechest
But aren't there still many very popular conspiracy theorists around that they haven't taken out?
People like Alex Jones.
I've never heard of this guy so it seems they are taking out small potatoes and leaving the big ones?
I don't understand the logic behind that.
Originally posted by Agarta
I think what gets me on this story is that, if he did it I am wondering what the Children were doing at the time. It is odd that all 3 were shot in the head. One would think that he could have done one that way but the second would have heard the shot or something, assuming they were home at the time of the first shot. There are only 2 ways I could see this happening and that would be if both Children decided to let their Father shoot them or one was not home when the first was shot and he ambushed the second upon their return. Another thing is that no one heard 4 shots? I just need more information.
Originally posted by Agarta
I think what gets me on this story is that, if he did it I am wondering what the Children were doing at the time. It is odd that all 3 were shot in the head. One would think that he could have done one that way but the second would have heard the shot or something, assuming they were home at the time of the first shot. There are only 2 ways I could see this happening and that would be if both Children decided to let their Father shoot them or one was not home when the first was shot and he ambushed the second upon their return. Another thing is that no one heard 4 shots? I just need more information.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Agarta
Here's a (not so) wacky theory for you...
Phillip Marshall offed himself and his family in the hopes that the conspiracy folks would instantly jump to the conclusion that he was murdered because of his book. This part at least, is true. Just read the responses so far.
Thusly, to these conspiracy folk, his theories become validated and the already growing distrust in the government grows a little more.
What a sick, twisted individual it was that pulled the trigger...
The guy had a long history of depression, financial problems and mental instability in general - there had been complaints of domestic and non-domestic violence against him,he had had morphine pills for pain relief in his house - he complained to police when his ex-wife took them from his house in 2008.
Amazon says about Philip Marshall: 'A veteran airline captain and former government "special activities" contract pilot, he has authored three books on Top Secret America, a group presently conducting business as the United States Intelligence Community. 'Marshall has studied and written 30-years worth of covert government special activities and the revolving door of Wall Street tricksters, media moguls, and their well funded politicians. 'He is the leading aviation expert on the September 11th attack.' Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... imself.html#ixzz2KSY2i1KG Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by Signals
I find it strange that he shot his family, which you seem to accept as normal - but you question him shooting the dog???
One of the traps we tend to fall into with these things is that we try to filter the irrational through a lens of rationality - and that just doesn't work. People in an irrational state do irrational things. For example, in reading about some past murder suicide ( I think it may have been the professional wrestler Chris Benoit... but I can't clearly recall for sure ) - the stated reason for killing the kid(s) too was so that they'd all get to Heaven at the same time and never be apart. The perpetrator in that crime, Benoit or not - in his psychotic mindset - actually saw killing his own offspring as an act of mercy. Or so that's what this person told themselves to make it all palatable. Maybe in an agitated and irrational state this person had the same sort of thinking?
I have had a psychotic break and still have trouble explaining to others exactly what it is like. Not only was I not myself - but I was totally and utterly unaware that I was not myself. Only in hindsight, later on, could I begin to see how absolutely screwed up I was during that short period of time. ( FTR My psychotic break was not violence based at all. I didn't hurt anybody, including myself ).
This book is a compilation of official reports that disputes the Bush Administration, the Bush Intelligence Community and the American media's account of the 9/11 attack. United States Senator Bob Graham's Congressional Joint Inquiry in 2002 revealed that Saudi Arabian Intelligence agents met the 9/11 hijackers in the Los Angeles in January of 2000, harbored them and led them to 18 months of flight training in Florida and Arizona.
From the perspective of a Boeing 767 captain and former "special activities" contract pilot, Philip Marshall straps the reader into the cockpits of hijacked commercial airliners to tell the story of the most sophisticated terrorist attack in history. Based on a comprehensive ten-year study into the murders of his fellow pilots on 9/11, he explains how hijackers, novice pilots at the controls of massive guided missiles, were able to beat United States Air Force fighters to iconic targets with advanced maneuvering, daring speeds and a kamikaze finish. But, as Marshall explains, the tactical plan was so precise that it rules out car-bombers and shoe-bombers known as al Qaeda, KSM and Osama bin Laden.
Fasten your seatbelt--- the sad truth is that all of the solid evidence points to a dark collaboration between members of the Bush Administration and a covert group of Saudi government officials. This is a game changer that will finally set the record straight on the most horrific crime in US history
According to an online biography, Marshall was a former government special aviation contract pilot and flew missions for the U.S. government in connection with the DEA and CIA. He wrote a book about his experiences during the Iran-Contra incident in the 1980s. Callaway said Marshall had also written two conspiracy theory books focused on 911. He made the argument that the U.S. government and Saudi Arabia were responsible for the incident, not terrorist groups, which she feels could have made him enemies in high places.
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Originally posted by Jay Electronica
Hmm.. this definitely sounds suspect. I know its the weekend (slow for conspiracies) but I hope the ATS detectives do some good digging and make the picture of what really happened a little bit more clear
RIP to this family.
However, what the author says about Philip Zelikow, who was probably working with the conspirators, is well researched and concurs with my findings. Therefore we have the Truthers drawing off the energy of all of us who suspect an inside job, but then leading us down a garden maze into impossible, indeterminate scenarios that can never find closure -- Griffin is either knowingly or unknowingly, aiding the slickest of neocon cover-ups.
Griffin's accounts of these flights are so far-fetched and uninformed that they actually have the net effect of aiding the perpetrators.