Ever Felt Like Giving into Conformity?

Originally posted by michael1983l
Believing in conspiracies never seems to lead you anywhere, nothing ever seems to change, so the question begs, what is the point in being concerned if you cannot change anything?

It gives you a different perspective, enabling you to question any developments that may or may not affect you and your loved ones lives.

I accept that there is little I can personally change, indeed my life strategy is one of 'pseudo-compliance'.
I resist the things that I disagree with but pay my taxes like a good little worker bee.

ATS gives me an insight of other peoples perspectives on worldwide events, some I consider whacky, some more concerning and worth further consideration.
Either way though, I concentrate on enjoying the limits of the relative freedom I have compared to other peoples around the world, and change/resist the small things that concern me, whenever I can.

Living on an overpopulated island like Britain, no matter what changes happen in our society, I won't have the luxury of escaping to the middle of nowhere to live off-grid as some other international members appear to feel they are able to. That said, it means I will be under the perceived control of some state machine (despotic or otherwise) as long as I live here.
As such, I can only continue to take my information from various sources and maintain my facade of pseudo-complying wherever appropriate.

'Big changes' are ALWAYS around the corner, apparently... I think it's the people who are continuously proclaiming that they have all this knowledge of coming events and then having these events NEVER OCCUR, that are tiring a lot of us out. It's just the same damn thing over and over and I can totally see where the OP is coming from on this one... But, I will continue to trudge along in the swamps of truth vs. lies and try not to get too mucky but when I'm covered in a thick crust of mud, I'll call it quits, so, my dear OP, I think you should wait it out with me babe

There are some very thought provoking and sensible replies here. Thank you all for your contribution so far.

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Originally posted by michael1983l
Have you ever thought that questioning everything you see and battling against tptb is just too energy draining? Has the thought never crossed your mind that it might just be easier to be one of the sheep and conform? Will your life actually work out any different if you did?

I might need help here but I am having a period of loss of faith in conspiracies in general, maybe I just need some of you guys to get me back on track. But at the moment, all reading conspiracies seems to bring me is sadness, not just for me but the whole human race. They say that ignorance is bliss, if I just lived my life conforming and being ignorant, would I not lead a better quality of life because I will be less stressed?

Believing in conspiracies never seems to lead you anywhere, nothing ever seems to change, so the question begs, what is the point in being concerned if you cannot change anything?

I am worried a little, that maybe I don't want to deny ignorance anymore. Does anybody else ever feel the same way as this?

Do I get tired? Hell yes. But there is no way I will conform. Whether I'm here reading about it or not, it has pervaded every sense of my being and made me who I am. I'll still see it in everyday life no matter what. Of course...I have a different definition for ignorance. To me, ignorance is not an unknowing..it is stupidity. I can deny that whether I keep up to date with current world events and the conspiracy spins on them or not. I have learned enough in my time here to apply an automatic filter and retain only what I wish. But by all means, if it is depressing you..go smell the roses. There IS a big beautiful world out there that has nothing to do with war, greed or hate.

Not even once, because if you could picture the leaders personally responsible, for the worst violence ever occurring on this planet, and I do know they are, dismembered bombed children, boys in the middle east impaled, (and they put out videos of the event and it was on an alternative news site by someone who used to post here and does some really good news, and who had some exclusives), to the horrors happening here in this part of the world, you would never ever compromise. If you could see them on the surface, and their demonic souls dripping with blood, you would run in horror at what you elect and allow in office.

Originally posted by michael1983l
Have you ever thought that questioning everything you see and battling against tptb is just too energy draining? Has the thought never crossed your mind that it might just be easier to be one of the sheep and conform? Will your life actually work out any different if you did?

I might need help here but I am having a period of loss of faith in conspiracies in general, maybe I just need some of you guys to get me back on track. But at the moment, all reading conspiracies seems to bring me is sadness, not just for me but the whole human race. They say that ignorance is bliss, if I just lived my life conforming and being ignorant, would I not lead a better quality of life because I will be less stressed?

Is it easier to be a sheep and conform? That implies that you realize there are things in place that are driving us to conform (not conspiracies--but actualities--even if we/you aren't 100% sure of what they are, who's leading them, and to what purpose). SOMETHING'S wrong with the world, the society, the gov't, media, economy, etc., you know it and you know you are encouraged to stay in your own little patch of the sheep farm with your head down, satisfied, quiet, and busy chewing...branded and owned.

And you are wondering if there is any reason to not graze in that corner and stop worrying about something you can't quite pin down, can't quite get your head around. Not having the answers, not having the definitive, absolute answers is enough to drive any slightly awakened sheep mad.

And, not knowing what to do about "it"--whatever all of it is--is so defeating and disheartening...that you look around at the those who never question a darn thing and are concerned only with the next new film in theaters, what the Kardashian's are up to, what fast food to pick up, who's winning the upcoming baseball/basketball/football championship, and what does FOX, CNN, etc. think about X, Y and Z...and you wonder, "maybe they got it right." They seem happy, or happier, than you. They have blind faith in their religion of choice, their doctors and big pharma, their gov't leaders, their media personalities...so why shouldn't you? Maybe you can go back and enter the fold and be buoyed up by that collective buzz.

I've thought of this often. I've been questioning everything since I was a little kid. I looked around me in disbelief and wondered how people didn't see what I saw. And, even now, as an adult, I sometimes secretly wish that I could be "blind" again so I wouldn't have to feel this fatigue, sadness, anger, and frustration. Once awakened, you can't go back, you can only do the "fake conformity" thing that we all have to do to some degree or another, depending on your job, family and financial situation, country, etc.

That fatigue seems to come from thinking so much, so hard, studying, reading, discussing, visiting sites like ATS, and still not knowing. It sucks not knowing the whole picture. It sucks not knowing what to do to help change the world. It sucks not knowing what is coming next. And it sucks to be thought of by "society" as a conspiracy kook (even if no one really knows that you question things--you know that you do, and you know that they mean people like "you" when they are calling us conspiracy nuts).

Yes, I do conform in the majority of my life. Many of us do. I have an education, corporate job, mortgage. I put a lot of energy into pretending that all this is meaningful, and that all this is going to continue as is, in an unsustainable economic system.

Maybe it's not about "believing in conspiracies" but rather, knowing that there is more going on than we are allowed to see--and the ATS forum, videos, books--are all a way to help us keep looking for clues. On the other side of it, maybe it's also about putting as much energy into our own physical, emotional, mental and spiritual selves as possible--so we can be as healthy, sound, centered, loving, prepared, compassionate and intelligent as we can be. And, to take action in ways that contribute to the world in meaningful ways, despite whatever the heck is going on.

Thank you for your post.

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Always with teeth and fangs.

And giving into their empires and not questioning is selling out your kids to insane monsters.

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And thank you for your post Galadriel, that was an absolutly mind blowing post. Kudos to you and I will sit on what you have said and think hard about it. A very intelligent post indeed. I am well impressed.

I kinda feel like it mostly... what can you do? You can't do anything unless some crazy tripwire event happens and everything goes to crap. And even then wtf is going on? No one knows, and even if you did know afterwards you would only be concerned with survival and finding some way to get some semblance of civilization back. More immediately just survive... at least at the moment we have it better than practically anyone in the past. I dunno... maybe strong AI will unravel all the webs and make everyone STFU for once when they figure out they aren't that clever afterall. Meh... I'd really like to get this car I'm working on fixed up before SITF though...

Originally posted by michael1983l

Ever Felt Like Giving into Conformity?

loss of faith in conspiracies

Let evidence guide you not faith - lest you trade one form of conformity for another.

If ATS is getting you down, which it can do, with every second thread heralding cataclysmic events just around the corner; perhaps you should take a few days off "the hard stuff" i.e. the doom-porn.

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Wonderful response.

It is true, You could go back to 'sleep', but your dreams will eventually waken you once again.

I too had the question everything mind since being a child, and more than once was slapped down to remind me how it is 'best' to conform.
I didn't. and have suffered only what others think.

My philosophy is Brutal Honesty, and if you cry when I tell you, or don't listen, it matters not much, because I know I can't go back to "Not Knowing" what I know. It is impossible to UnSee, what I have seen.

I was going to say,,, 'Go back to sleep",, but I can't
WAKE UP ! Wake Up! your dozing off and we need you now more than ever.

I really couldn't say. I've wished to be "normal" but I could never really figure out what that was.

If you are true and honest to yourself, then you are normal.

Conformity is abnormal. It's impossible. It is the most impossible thing. It's more impossible that God, Satan, aliens, demons, invaders from the 9th dimension.... conformity is not a thing at all. It's not real.

I don't understand how people can conform.... really I don't understand how they can possibly operate this way.

It's really weird, conformity. It's an alien virus, I'm telling ya!

To someone who is honest, the idea of "joining" anything is a very uncomfortable and upsetting proposition.

I still have teen angst, and I'm almost 30 years old!

I did once...i went too the mall and bought some clothes at Buckle. Two shirts and
Two hundred dollars later, i went home, put them in my closet, and grabbed my favorite
flannel to go out drinking with the guys.
I don't honestly know what happened to those shirts, but i do know i felt really "not straight"
Wearing them, even though they were western style shirts.
Last time I'll ever conform.

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Ok here is a very sad truth for all of you guys. But OP should listen especially. You have doubt and that is a good thing.

Now, here is the cold hard truth of it. Almost every conspiracy you have ever heard about or written about is either been completely made up or been vastly blown out of proportions.

Might sound harsh, but that is the gist of it. Are there background dealings and some shady things going on in politics? OF COURSE, it´s politics. Only a fool would expect anything else.

Conspiracies in general are fun to talk about, and they are fun to speculate about. But the problem is that there are about ten times as much made-up facts in existence as there are real ones.

If you take them too seriously though, you´ll sink into paranoia, fear and frustration because the world won´t listen to you.

When you see innocent people in other countries being slaughtered by our western wars and having their love ripped away from them... that is YOUR love that you are ripping away from YOUR self.

because we are the same... and if we go around ruining the happiness of others, we deserve to have all that we cherish ripped away from us.

It may not happen today, it may not happen tomorrow but there will come day when this sickening realization will fall upon everyone.

When you realize that is YOUR love out there dying and having their hearts ripped out, the mere idea that that "conformity is just so much easier" will be like blasphemy on your ears.

I'll just go along with what everybody else says...

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