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Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Greatest I am
Father loves all including Satan, man on the other hand, just doesn't have that kind of love for all as Father does.
Originally posted by dodol
I love using them when writing fantasy story.
In the past, I wrote them as the villains.
These days, I write them as guardians (summons) to help the heroes defeating the fake god manifested by humans' faiths
edit on 15-1-2013 by dodol because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Josephus
The often quoted Love the sinner and Hate the sin is based on the following Biblical passage:
22 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23 save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.
Jude 1:22-23
This is not a provision to love those who, in full knowledge of the consequence of their choices; choose sin. I imagine that the foreknowledge of the betrayal being committed could not be said to apply of anyone more than Satan and his minions. Satan knows God as completely as any created being possibly could and chooses out of malice and envy to rebel. I assume that forgiveness would be given if sought however God's knowledge exceeds the bounds of time and it has been made clear in the Bible that Satan shall meet his fate with no such desire for redemption.
If you really feel like your view is correct there is an entire denomination of Christianity which espouses a similar belief. I feel it is misguided but I am not an expert and it is not my place to judge. You can read more about it here: Christian Universalism
edit on 15-1-2013 by Josephus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by superman2012
They are the only ones I pray for as they need it the most.
Originally posted by logical7
i can pity the satan, learn from his faults but not love.
The whole idea of love the sinner hate the sin is impossible to accept as its like hate the gun but love the shooter!
But i also believe in the idea, Every saint has a past and every sinner may have a future.
Originally posted by winofiend
and they bury their heads in ignorance, seeking out each other with phrases from a con book. humanity...
Smothering themselves in their own nest, failing to ever fly... never to be free
Originally posted by dodol
Jesus said:
43“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’r and hate your enemy. 44But I say, love your enemies!s Pray for those who persecute you! 45In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. 46If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. 47If you are kind only to your friends,t how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. 48But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Source: nlt.scripturetext.com...
If your enemies are Satan and his minions, you have to love them if you believe in Jesus
Originally posted by Jameliel
reply to post by Greatest I am
I do not take every work in the "Scriptures" as literal, nor do I even know if the verse you used was originally written that way. I HATE murderers of innocence. I HATE the molestation of little children. I HATE cold-heartedness and uncaring for others. Therefore I HATE satan and all his little minions.
I also do not believe that God "loves" satan. Perhaps he once did, but it is my belief that he HATES satan with righteous anger and righteous hate. Hate not being a malicious term in the way I use it, but the opposite of love as there must be. I do not love satan, I detest it.
There are those who would try to make it as if you can walk on both sides of the fence=) You must choose.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Greatest I am
Father loves all including Satan, man on the other hand, just doesn't have that kind of love for all as Father does.
Then there can be no hell and Satan is just doing God's bidding. Right?
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by Jameliel
reply to post by Greatest I am
I do not take every work in the "Scriptures" as literal, nor do I even know if the verse you used was originally written that way. I HATE murderers of innocence. I HATE the molestation of little children. I HATE cold-heartedness and uncaring for others. Therefore I HATE satan and all his little minions.
I also do not believe that God "loves" satan. Perhaps he once did, but it is my belief that he HATES satan with righteous anger and righteous hate. Hate not being a malicious term in the way I use it, but the opposite of love as there must be. I do not love satan, I detest it.
There are those who would try to make it as if you can walk on both sides of the fence=) You must choose.
I also do not love all and share that with you but if you are a believer then you must believe that God had hate in his heart that needed expression from the very beginning.
Why else would a God who knows all that his creations would do ahead of time create a Satan if he did not want him around?
If you believe in a Satan then you must also believe that Satan has been sentenced to hell by God. You m7ustr then ignore the fact that justice delayed is justice denied and your God allows Satan to roam freely.
Ever wonder why God favors evil?
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Regards
DL