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Originally posted by krossfyter
Originally posted by abstract_alao
Would God was the feet of a man.
John 13:12-17
So when he had washed their feer, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you? You call me Teahers and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, thatyou should do as I have done to you. Most assuredlt, I say to you, a servent is not greater than his master; Nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him. If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.
Jesus ( which was his title, some say his name was Yosha bin Yosuf) was humbling himself right here.
whats your point? just curious.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
The trinity is based on older pagan traditions of a trinity mother: Maiden, Mother, Hag type thing, corresponding with the pahses of the moon. the trinity concept was one of birth, maturity, then death. Every culture in history had one. Most were moon related, although the Slavs had one based on sun worship.
Catholics certainly arent monothiestic, look at the multitude of sainst they placate and light candles to. Sainst, in some cases, never existed as actualy humans, but were more than lilkely old pagan gods who were revamped to be subservient to the new god, and written into history to make them realistic figures. examples: St bride of Kildare in Ireland (appears to be the christianized celtic goddess bridgit), St George of England (might be a real figure who was combined with the Teutonic Nordic god Thor), St Oswald of Sweden (might be old Odin himself). And of course, the revernce of the virgin Mary is a layover of earlier religions who worshiped some sort of mother type goddess.
Originally posted by Illmatic67
helen= truth
Originally posted by helen670
Originally posted by Illmatic67
helen= truth
Illmatic.......are you claiming I'm someone besides who i am???
Originally posted by helen670
hmmmmmmmmmmm
I dont know???
Maybe im just tired!!!
Truth.....another person on A.T.S forums???
or have i not understood what
helen........Truth
Ok .......what is it then.........illmatic ???
Originally posted by Gazrok
Here we have two deities (God and Satan) battling it out...we have a Demigod (as Jesus is the son of God and Mary...see Hercules, Perseus, etc.), and a veritable heirarchy of other deities (demons, angels, archangels, etc.). In what way is Christianity monotheistic (and don't try that Father/Son/Holy Ghost crap, as it still doesn't address the others)?
Originally posted by Gazrok
You're saying you believe in Christ and God? How is that then any more monotheistic than Catholicism? Do you not also believe that Satan exists? See? You're still in the same trap...even if you throw out the demons, angels, etc. Bottom line...it's a pantheon...
Originally posted by mikromarius
Originally posted by Gazrok
Here we have two deities (God and Satan) battling it out...we have a Demigod (as Jesus is the son of God and Mary...see Hercules, Perseus, etc.), and a veritable heirarchy of other deities (demons, angels, archangels, etc.). In what way is Christianity monotheistic (and don't try that Father/Son/Holy Ghost crap, as it still doesn't address the others)?
A follower of Christ is monotheistic, the Church is polytheistic. Catholicism has more in common with Ba'alism than Judaism I think. Strict Judaism was the way of Jesus. Most of the doctrines of the Catholic Church has come as a result of really bad research and understanding of Judaism. Good Friday for instance. Jesus was already dead on Good Friday and couldn't have been killed on a holy day. He had already been dead for nearly two days. And he had already learned to speek when the Catholics say he was born. Their lacking understanding and pagan ways led them further and further astray and resulted in the persecution of the Jews and the others who followed the way of Jesus. Catholicism was the tool the church used to gain control over the kingdoms of Europe and take over the Roman Empire Catholicism has been more about Mammon and worldly power, than about God and the coming of Messiah. If you read Jewish mystical writings about the Messiah, we learn that he is fourfold, not threefold
The Church probably wanted more action or something. They were bored with the truth so they had to forge and shape it to fit their original pagan ways. Disgusting if you ask me
If they believed in God they would never have done the things they have.
Blessings,
Mikromarius
[Edited on 9-5-2003 by mikromarius]
Originally posted by helen670
illmatic.......im not a ''fanatical Christian'' !!!