Yup. He’s a Socialist....

reply to post by kittyfatale


Jesus will take care of them.
Right now Jesus is mad at America because we have so many gays and are pro choice.
Only when we take America back will Jesus come around to helping us again and he will ensure those children are cared for.

Originally posted by Propulsion
Obama keeps making speeches about redistribution. The business community in this country is frightened to death of the weird political philosophy of the President. And until he's gone, everybody's going to be sitting on their thumbs.

Small and medium sized business has nothing to fear from mild socialism. Only big business does and that is why they pay trolls to post nonsense all over the internet. They fight fire with fire rather than just whine about it like I am doing.

A socialist government would implement tariffs and considering nationalising the banks, especially the central bank. So much for importing our OWN goods and services from all that outsourcing. Chineese brand merchandise is called knock-offs and are supposedly bad for our health, according to most privately owned media outlets.

America is in DESPERATE NEED of a third party putting its foot inside the washington ESTABLISMENT! It matters little if it is the constitution party, libertarian party, socialist party, communist party, green party, progressive party or any independents.

Democrats and republicans differ so little as to practically be the same. At least they have the same end goal and that is to destroy america so that the nwo can implement a global capitalist dictatorship with BIS digital currency.

reply to post by Propulsion


This link shows Obama droppping God from the platform in favor of ''evidence-based'' organizations.
God dropped

The Democrats are very clever in the way that they mention faith-based organizations as if to say that such organizations will be able to co-exist with the evidence-based organizations, but you can tell that God has been given a back seat.

Dismantling the Constitution and all the various religions is definitely a step towards Godless Communism.

reply to post by freemarketsocialist


It's called incrementalism, and it is used as the path to Socialism. It has been being put into place for years.

Although a healthy debate is good for this counrty, when one political group dislike another political group so much that it creates massive divisions and choas for the country alike, the Corrupt leaders, Elite, and Bankers have already won. We cannot defeat this problem, until we as a Country become ONE. I know that many of you already know this. It just Sucks that it has come to this, i see No way around this, but straight through the Hornets Nest. Nut up

WOOOHOOO National Socialism minus the racism!!! That must confuse some of the white supremacists. I never understood the difference between Hitler's Government and Stalin's. They both were ran by dictators with unlimited power under the pretense of socialism... So why so much strife??

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


It's highly doubtful any large corporation or business would waste time and money to post stuff in these forums, because they need to focus on the real tasks of the day and run an actual enterprise. Perhaps some of the lobbyists would do such a thing though. I wouldn't put it past MoveOn or Media Matters.

Just a little hint though, you can already register for the communist party or socialist party at your local DMV. They are fringe parties and don't get as much traction, which is probably one reason why the communist and socialist parties have infiltrated the Democrats.

From everything I have read here on ATS, is very clear that most people on this forum are deeply misinformed about socialism and communism.
Number one, Obama is anything but a socialist. He is a capitalist..plain and simple. He only says these little sparkles of so-called socialist thought to get the vote from the far left. Yet, anyone who has been paying attention for the last few years, and also is correctly educated on capitalism, socialism and communism, can clearly see that Obama is a capitalist.

For example:
If Obama was a socialist he would have totally rejected the idea of requiring people to buy healthcare insurance from private insurance companies. In fact, if he was a socialist he would have signed an executive order outlawing health insurance companies and declaring that all people are guaranteed healthcare due to their economic rights as invested workers in the economy. Everyone would get healthcare as they needed it. That would be socialism.

What Obama did was exactly what a capitalist would do when the people are demanding healthcare. He required, by law, that everyone buy their healthcare from private companies who profit from people`s sickness and need for healthcare as a human being. He has been the best friend the healthcare insurance industry has never had. He gave them guaranteed profit forever.

Originally posted by Propulsion
(B) The way of the EU/USSR/UN model

There’s no middle road.

I've finally understood why so many Americans have such problems accepting "left wing-ism".
The right-wing ideas are so black & white, that there simply is no "middle road". It's either or.
The word "reasonable" doesn't seem to exist.

Like, "is it reasonable that some people will get enslaved by this "freedom" for corporations to have employees that actually don't get paid (tip only)?"

or "Since abortion is bad, we can't allow that under any circumstances, no matter how horrible they might be."

Also, the fact that you compared USSR and the European countries of today shows that you cannot see the difference between communist dictatorship and democracies based on socialist values such as "we want everyone to have proper education, healthcare and the ability to prosper."

The great thing about this is that it's not based on strict rules on what can or can't be done. It's about what is reasonable.
This makes things like "hey... we can't really afford this. What is reasonable at this point. To raise taxes, and in that case, for whom? Or, to cut down on this service for now." actually debatable.
And the party with the best package for the time will get elected.

Neat, huh?

reply to post by Propulsion


I just WISH he was a Socialist. America needs to be a Socialist Nation. Socialist nations have the highest standard of living. America is at the bottom of just about every major category except ignorance and number of creationist museums. I find it amusing that little TeaBags think that calling someone a Socialist is actually an insult.

The collective stupidity I see here when it comes to socialism is pretty funny when you all are using a tax payer created internet given to you for free. I also would point out that the NFL is an example of a socialism. Revenue sharing from the rich to the poor is what has made it so successful and kept small market teams compedative. Damn commie NFL. Anyway I also find this funny "The way of the Founders/Framers". Just what way is that? Not even the founders agreed and the people signed and helped write the thing were the first ones to move beyond it.

reply to post by freedomwv

Wolves in Sheep's clothing

Ezra Taft Benson, Dwight Eisenhower's Secretary of Agriculture, the first man the US Press predicted to be outed from the administration given his staunch anti-communist and severe anti-socialist policies stated the agenda of what he called the "socialist-communist conspiracy:
“I have talked face to face with the godless communist leaders. It may surprise you to learn that I was host to Mr. Kruschev for a half day when he visited the United States, not that I’m proud of it. I opposed his coming then, and I still feel it was a mistake to welcome this atheistic murderer as a state visitor. But, according to President Eisenhower, Kruschev had expressed a desire to learn something of American Agriculture — and after seeing Russian agriculture I can understand why. As we talked face to face, he indicated that my grandchildren would live under communism. After assuring him that I expected to do all in my power to assure that his and all other grandchildren will live under freedom he arrogantly declaired in substance:

“ ‘You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands.’


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awakeandarise.org...

Barack Obama is a Fabian socialist. I should know; I was raised by one. My Grandfather worked as a union machinist for Ingersoll Rand (nyse: IR - news - people ) during the day.
Fabians believed in gradual nationalization of the economy through manipulation of the democratic process. Breaking away from the violent revolutionary socialists of their day, they thought that the only real way to effect "fundamental change" and "social justice" was through a mass movement of the working classes presided over by intellectual and cultural elites. Before TV it was stage plays, written by George Bernard Shaw and thousands of inferior "realist" playwrights dedicated to social change. John Cusack's character in Woody Allen's "Bullets Over Broadway" captures the movement rather well.

www.forbes.com...

The Fabian Society began in England in 1887 by a very small group of elitist socialist that sought to reform society gradually into one of socialism instead of through violent revolution. At first their purpose was to be an alternative in Britain for the more dominate Marxist Social-Democratic Federation, but their true goal was to accomplish socialism through a very gradual process using the voting booth and representative democracy as their instrument of change. In fact, one of their symbols is a Turtle with the motto: "When I Strike, I Strike Hard". Another symbol is the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing and the Globe on an Anvil being hammered into the Fabian model.

The Fabian Plan for gradual Socialist Revolution was as definitive as it possibly could be, to say it has been a conspiracy is simplistic in the extreme. It instituted a widespread educational program for its leadership and its minions, as time progressed, it opened schools, such as the London School of Economics, and the New School of Social Research.
One stroke of genius was that instead of advocating a Socialist State, they assisted in the implementation of the Welfare State, which as we should all know is merely a few steps away from a purely Socialistic State. It was, of course, implemented gradually, and played upon the weaknesses of human nature to gain popularity. Unlike the usual Socialist points of views, the Fabians didn't advocate complete State ownership of businesses, industry, agriculture or land, instead they sought to involve the State into very specific areas of importance such as electric power production, transportation, precious metals and of course, credit.

www.nolanchart.com...

Originally posted by FeatherofMaat
reply to post by Propulsion

 

I just WISH he was a Socialist. America needs to be a Socialist Nation. Socialist nations have the highest standard of living. America is at the bottom of just about every major category except ignorance and number of creationist museums. I find it amusing that little TeaBags think that calling someone a Socialist is actually an insult.

Socialist nations have the highest standard of living. America is at the bottom of just about every major category except ignorance and number of creationist museums.

See my post on Fabian socialism and how it is being implemented. People imagine that because Capitalism still exists side by side with socialist mechanisms and implementations that means that there isn't enough socialism and take it to mean that all the problems are issued from the use of Capitalism. This is typical of the thinking of socialists who are always very vocal here.

reply to post by MegaMind

And Republicans when will you realize that those corporations you give a free pass to because they are "free market capitalism" are destroying the "free market" using the very government the democrats worship.

You make an excellent point here. One key factor is the use of public-private partnerships. This tool is embedded within UN Agenda 21 and is part of the global One World Govt takeover.

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by Propulsion

 

Let all the paranoid, republican loving trolls come out of the wood works. The only reason I'd think Obama is because he's the only one who's been considered a socialist. But keep believing this BS propaganda and keep waiting for the apocalypse... it's coming.

No, very recently there were as many as 70 Congress members who were also members of the Democratic Socialists of America. What party do you think most of them are in?

I'm a little late to the party and didn't read any replies.

Barry and Mittens are only promoting different levels of fascism and socialism combined, one side a little heavier on the fascism and lighter on the socialism side than the other, but both are selling the same turd.

Dunno why the GOP is so hot on a guy that they LAMBASTED in '08 and were SKEWERING durnig the debates as a pariah...

Neither are friends to the Republic.

Derek

reply to post by Propulsion


So he's a Socialist? good. Capitalist greed has brought the US and UK to its knees.

reply to post by TerryMcGuire

You say Obama wants tax payer funded abortions? Where has he ever said that?

Just look at the lineup at the DNC.... Sandra Fluke who wants contraception paid for, NARAL which is the most extreme radical Pro Choice organization, and Planned Parenthood which already uses funding. Taxpayer funded abortions are in the works via Obamacare. It's not the first time the Left demanded their abortions paid for with taxpayer money. Obama is pro UN which uses American funds to pay for abortions and sterilization in third world countries.

The pro-abortion crowd is very aggressive. NARAL is doing all it can to get President Obama re-elected. And, Planned Parenthood is pulling out all stops to challenge a growing number of states that have decided that it's time to put a halt to sending taxpayer funds to the nation's largest abortion provider.

aclj.org...

Follow the breadcrumbs Hansel

Originally posted by FeatherofMaat
reply to post by Propulsion

 

I just WISH he was a Socialist. America needs to be a Socialist Nation. Socialist nations have the highest standard of living.

In about 6 months that statement will be totally false ...

can you say ... all together now ...

austerity

Originally posted by MegaMind

Originally posted by FeatherofMaat
reply to post by Propulsion

 

I just WISH he was a Socialist. America needs to be a Socialist Nation. Socialist nations have the highest standard of living.

In about 6 months that statement will be totally false ...

can you say ... all together now ...

austerity

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Why do you think austerity is required? It is because these countries can no longer afford to pay for programs that are getting them into debt. It's so very simple. It's like maxxing out your credit cards till you can't even pay the minimum and the interest keeps piling up. And eventually the socialists run out of other people's money to spend. CLASSIC