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Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13
This is the same thing like governments - killing and destroying in order to take over and form a kingdom. The highest service to self would be to love oneself and to understand you don't need to control because you are infinite and all is within you. Do not let the
Do not let the feeling of "lack" to overcome you and make you steal, kill, or have jealousy. Understand that you do not "lack" you are awesome as is and love self and then this "lack" feeling of need to take will go away.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by My_Reality
It is best to do yourself a service and become stronger so that you do not have to depend on others.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by My_Reality
It is best to do yourself a service and become stronger so that you do not have to depend on others. If you owe them pay them back so you can free yourself from your debt and let that be the end of it (unless you REALLY need to)! Learn to be strong and support yourself.
All is one. All is unity, but There are many out of one - e pluribus unum.edit on 28-8-2012 by arpgme because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13
I think this is already happening, maybe. The Lucifer consciousness is growing stronger as more take on a "Do as thou wilt" philosophy.
I think absorbing the energy of others for your own benefit and trying to take control is an obsession with "control" rather than "self-love".
Self-love is better but to try to destroy other energies for your own benefit is more of "control" of others, rather than having "self-loving" and understanding that you are an individual divine being.
So yeah, I don't think that a being/consciousness taking over the planet is good. I think self oriented is loving themselves but are not concerned with controlling others.
There is a different from "Controlling others" and "Loving yourself"...
edit on 28-8-2012 by arpgme because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
reply to post by arpgme
accepted your core response was requested. MAY THE LIGHT GUIDE YOU ON YOUR JOURNEY OF LEARNING
Originally posted by Gnobody
reply to post by arpgme
Hi OP
Been following this thread since you created it, I don't happen to agree with you and I'll just leave it at that.
However, I do have a question (please try not to be offended) is English your first language?
Originally posted by Unity_99
In the world there are countless gifted with talents who can never share, their free will is taken from them by the Greed of others, and apathy.
As long as you think, survival of the fittest, meanest and healthiest, and the few, the rest, WHO CARES, then its OK to feel that way. There are countless realms, they're lower mind you, where people can graviate towards until they find their way to seeing the Light so to speak and realizing it was never about patting yourself on the back for the gift the gods gave you for your health and positioning, but instead it was about seeing what your soul is made of.
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
I've heard of this "Do what thou wilt" phrase talked about by some on the radio. Lon Milo Duquette of the OTO mentioned it on Coast to Coast AM one night saying this didn't mean to do whatever you want. He said it was about doing what you are supposed to do in this life. Do you know if there's any truth to that. Do you have any insight as to how safe/insidious this group might be and "Do what thou wilt"?
Also, does that correlate to your basic premise here? I'm just going by Objectivism from Rand and understand the basic importance of caring for the self first before others.
Originally posted by djr33222
reply to post by TheMatrixusesYou
It is definitely satanic in origin but what that means depends on your opinion of satanism I suppose.
Arthur Schopenhauer would say " Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills."
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
Have you read my posts? I'd like to think that the OP and I are talking about the same thing. I however say things a bit differently. See if what I say makes sense. I'd like to see what you think about it.
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
reply to post by Gnobody
Nice to meet you too Gnobody. I don't have that many posts here as I think most others don't understand either.
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
No one but you can increase your own strength and I stand by that statement. And believe me you don't want to go there. Remember the statement, "Be the change you want to see in the world."? That is because only you can effect change.
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
Build yourself up. Then you become strong enough to build others up. It's that simple.
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
I also know you're not getting the satisfaction you need from the OP where you're looking for some kind of proof that they know what they are talking about. If you read my posts, you can see I know what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if the OP knows what they are talking about. They are just stating a universal truth. Does it matter if they say it or someone else?
Originally posted by Gnobody
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
Have you read my posts? I'd like to think that the OP and I are talking about the same thing. I however say things a bit differently. See if what I say makes sense. I'd like to see what you think about it.
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
reply to post by Gnobody
Nice to meet you too Gnobody. I don't have that many posts here as I think most others don't understand either.
I checked out your threads and posts, but the only posts I could find that are related to this subject matter (or any kind of Metaphysics/ Philosophy) are in this very thread and another regarding egos.
Except for agreeing with the OP and suggesting other works, the only post I see from you regarding this subject that you explain yourself are the following..
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
No one but you can increase your own strength and I stand by that statement. And believe me you don't want to go there. Remember the statement, "Be the change you want to see in the world."? That is because only you can effect change.
I agree with the above, I think most people would, but it doesn't make clear the OP.
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
Build yourself up. Then you become strong enough to build others up. It's that simple.
This can be true in certain circumstances, but it can also be true that you can find strength in helping others. Seeing the end result of helping another, seeing that you made a difference could give you strength, confidance, a sense of worth?
Originally posted by TheMatrixusesYou
I also know you're not getting the satisfaction you need from the OP where you're looking for some kind of proof that they know what they are talking about. If you read my posts, you can see I know what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if the OP knows what they are talking about. They are just stating a universal truth. Does it matter if they say it or someone else?
It doesn't matter that the OP does/doesn't know what they are talking about?
With respect, when an OP presents themselves as wise and trying to teach others or convince others that what they are saying is the truth, I think it matters that they know what they are saying, that they know what they are talking about, from personal and direct experience.
Anyway, after reading your post and the post of the OP, I still disagree that 'serving' others is a form of slavery, that is if what is meant as 'serving others' is charity, aid, sacrifice or generally helping others in need.
I personally believe that by 'serving others' you are indirectly serving yourself, even in ways that I have yet to comprehend...
Gnobodyedit on 28/8/12 by Gnobody because: Unnecesarry sarcasm!