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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by crawdad1914
I simply believe partisinship will allways trump the search for truth.
No, what is impeding the search for the truth is the fact that Arpaio's posse was refused at every turn by officials in Hawaii. To the point of extreme suspicion. If there was nothing to hide, then why keep hiding it?
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by crawdad1914
I simply believe partisinship will allways trump the search for truth.
No, what is impeding the search for the truth is the fact that Arpaio's posse was refused at every turn by officials in Hawaii. To the point of extreme suspicion. If there was nothing to hide, then why keep hiding it?
Originally posted by flyswatter
...but in the end, turning them down on a request to see it is the right thing to do.
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by TrueAmerican
They were stopped because they have no legal authority to access the records they requested. There are three types of people that could access that information. Obama, Obama's immediate family, and an LEO with subpoena. The "posse" are none of those. In fact they're not even LEO. There's no reason these people should have been allowed access to the information they were looking for and the Hawaii DOH did the right thing by denying them access.
Then again I forgot we were on ATS where the Constitution is a sacred document unless it gets in the way of someone's own political ideology.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
And so I ask...If there was nothing to this story, then why is virtually every major, and minor, media outlet got it on their sites?
"President Obama was born in Honolulu and his birth certificate is valid," Joshua A. Wisch, a special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general, said in a statement. "Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law."
Wisch also said that "not only are Hawaii's vital records some of the best managed, but they also have some of the strongest restrictions on access to prevent identity theft and fraud."
Obama released a copy of his long-form birth certificate in an attempt to quell citizenship questions.
Courts have rebuffed lawsuits over the issue.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by crawdad1914
The only "smoke" is political propaganda you're choosing to believe.
If I look at all the "evidence" Hitler produced about Jews and homosexuals and assume that, because there's a lot of smoke, there must be fire, I'd be delusional.
All of the "smoke" has been long debunked. If you'd like us to debunk specific things, just ask.
There is NO true birther evidence.
Not a single scrap.