So you think your an Atheist? Take my test...

Originally posted by whyamIhere
Well, here I was this big bad Atheist.

Yet at my worst moment of my life.

I found myself calling out to God.

I just wonder if others ever had this experience.

That is natural reaction, in the moments when we can't control situation, we HOPE that something might do it for us, and do our bidding.

I found myself in middle of war, and not just prayed for my self (even not knowing how to do it) I also wondered why this was happening to me. And answer came to me, but not from high above, but from knowing human race and our destructive nature. It was not God that killed people because they were different religion or had different political views - it was MAN, mostly MAD MEN.

After struggling to survive for long, I found my self having normal life, still living without any religion.

Originally posted by Gwampo
I love trolling atheists!

they are JUST LIKE people who believe in God.

They want everyone to accept their beliefs, just like every other religion... silly atheists

Please, what are the Atheist beliefs?

Other than "We do not accept a personal God, for there is no evidence to support such a claim"

Originally posted by SuperFrog
@GmoS719 - I would love if OP clears that up...

In my opinion, he was missing need to belong to group - something that Maslow has described very well in his list of human needs.

I suggest everyone to watch this video, Hitchens at his best...

I felt like I was missing something, and it wasn't belonging to a group because I don't congregate or go to Church.
However, I do believe in God. The only group in Christianity is You & God.
So if you are saying he was missing God then I believe that.

Also, I think it's funny how the video says "and God loses" how could he if he wasn't there to debate?
Psh.

Originally posted by Daemonicon

Originally posted by Gwampo
I love trolling atheists!

they are JUST LIKE people who believe in God.

They want everyone to accept their beliefs, just like every other religion... silly atheists

Please, what are the Atheist beliefs?

Other than "We do not accept a personal God, for there is no evidence to support such a claim"

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: (no reason given)

You just answered that yourself.

Oh and that Christians are brainless.

reply to post by GmoS719


Atheism is a REJECTION of belief(s) in a higher power, it is not a belief system. That's all that being an Atheist means.

Originally posted by Daemonicon
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

I don't believe I did cry out to God. If I did, it was to ask him why he felt it was necessary to have my mom abandon me at a young age. A loving God would not allow such a thing to happen to a small boy.

This abandonment by my mother, and/or God, has left me feeling empty my entire life.

No thanks to God if that is how he shows love to his children.

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: spelling

At the time, I didn't know if I believed or not. This, among with other examples, lead me to believe that there couldn't be a God. If there is a God, I do not believe in a theistic God. A prime mover, perhaps, but that is a different subject.

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: (no reason given)

Your post really got to me.

I don't know why a living God would allow children such pain.

I find myself with more questions than concrete answers.

Originally posted by WienelPistor
reply to post by GmoS719

 

Atheism is a REJECTION of belief(s) in a higher power, it is not a belief system. That's all that being an Atheist means.

Any way you spin it. You believe there is no god. You don't believe in a God.
It means the same thing. It's a belief.
And if that's all being an atheist meant then why do you guys try so hard to bash religion?
That's right, chalk one down on the beliefs column.

Originally posted by GmoS719

Originally posted by Daemonicon

Originally posted by Gwampo
I love trolling atheists!

they are JUST LIKE people who believe in God.

They want everyone to accept their beliefs, just like every other religion... silly atheists

Please, what are the Atheist beliefs?

Other than "We do not accept a personal God, for there is no evidence to support such a claim"

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: (no reason given)

You just answered that yourself.

Oh and that Christians are brainless.

Some may believe they are brainless based on conversations, but to say that all Atheists believe that all Christians are brainless is a horrible fallacy. You made the claim that we just want everyone to accept our beliefs. It would be nice, but it isn't a mantra of sorts for us. Seems to me like you made that statement just to blanket attack the entire group, and I felt I needed to speak up.

Originally posted by GmoS719

Originally posted by WienelPistor
reply to post by GmoS719

 

Atheism is a REJECTION of belief(s) in a higher power, it is not a belief system. That's all that being an Atheist means.

Any way you spin it. You believe there is no god. You don't believe in a God.
It means the same thing. It's a belief.
And if that's all being an atheist meant then why do you guys try so hard to bash religion?
That's right, chalk one down on the beliefs column.

It is NOT a belief, if it is based on evidence. If it is, it is an observation.

However, to be fair to all involved. One must know that absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence.

Originally posted by Daemonicon
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

I don't believe I did cry out to God. If I did, it was to ask him why he felt it was necessary to have my mom abandon me at a young age. A loving God would not allow such a thing to happen to a small boy.

This abandonment by my mother, and/or God, has left me feeling empty my entire life.

No thanks to God if that is how he shows love to his children.

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: spelling

At the time, I didn't know if I believed or not. This, among with other examples, lead me to believe that there couldn't be a God. If there is a God, I do not believe in a theistic God. A prime mover, perhaps, but that is a different subject.

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: (no reason given)

How can you say your mother abandoning your was a bad thing?
She could have been a drug addict who pimped you out for drug money.
She could have been an alcoholic who abused you every time she laid eyes on you.
Hell, she could have been psychotic and murdered you in your sleep.
And yes, let's blame it on God, because Humans don't have free will.

reply to post by GmoS719


Because not all Atheist are anti-theist. There is a large difference between an Atheist, and an anti-theist Atheist.

reply to post by GmoS719


I don't pay attention to title, but to message, and message is well spoken.

If God does not talk for himself, then how come we know all those rules that he ask us to follow? If you select to say that he has passed the knowledge, next question would be - why did he change his mind so many times, so we got so diverse religions, that not only don't speak about the same thing,but are telling opposing things.

Lastly, if religious books, for example Bible was a word of God, how come large parts of it can be found in Mesopotamian folklore?

MESIPOTAMIAN CHRISTIAN GENISUS 1
6 generations of Gods 6 days of creation
1. Primeval chaos Lahmu 1. without form or void
2. Beginning of light Lahamu 2. let there be light
3. Creation of firmament Ansher 3. made firmament
4. Appearance of dry land Kishar 4. divided the waters
5. Creation of luminaries Anu 5. let there be light
6. Creation of man Ea 6. creation of man
7. Deity rests Marduk 7. God rests

source*

Originally posted by Daemonicon

Originally posted by GmoS719

Originally posted by Daemonicon

Originally posted by Gwampo
I love trolling atheists!

they are JUST LIKE people who believe in God.

They want everyone to accept their beliefs, just like every other religion... silly atheists

Please, what are the Atheist beliefs?

Other than "We do not accept a personal God, for there is no evidence to support such a claim"

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: (no reason given)

You just answered that yourself.

Oh and that Christians are brainless.

Some may believe they are brainless based on conversations, but to say that all Atheists believe that all Christians are brainless is a horrible fallacy. You made the claim that we just want everyone to accept our beliefs. It would be nice, but it isn't a mantra of sorts for us. Seems to me like you made that statement just to blanket attack the entire group, and I felt I needed to speak up.

You got the wrong guy, I didn't claim anything.
Scroll up and you will see I was just replying to you.
I'm not blanket attacking anyone.
Besides, that sounds like a gay sex term.

Originally posted by SuperFrog
reply to post by GmoS719

 

I don't pay attention to title, but to message, and message is well spoken.

If God does not talk for himself, then how come we know all those rules that he ask us to follow? If you select to say that he has passed the knowledge, next question would be - why did he change his mind so many times, so we got so diverse religion, that not only don't speak about the same thing,but are telling opposing things.

Lastly, if religious books, for example Bible was a word of God, how come large parts of it can be found in Mesopotamian folklore.

MESIPOTAMIAN CHRISTIAN GENISUS 1
6 generations of Gods 6 days of creation
1. Primeval chaos Lahmu 1. without form or void
2. Beginning of light Lahamu 2. let there be light
3. Creation of firmament Ansher 3. made firmament
4. Appearance of dry land Kishar 4. divided the waters
5. Creation of luminaries Anu 5. let there be light
6. Creation of man Ea 6. creation of man
7. Deity rests Marduk 7. God rests

source*

I didn't say anything about the bible or whatever you just went on about.
I'm just saying, I believe in God. You don't have to.

Originally posted by GmoS719

Originally posted by Daemonicon
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

I don't believe I did cry out to God. If I did, it was to ask him why he felt it was necessary to have my mom abandon me at a young age. A loving God would not allow such a thing to happen to a small boy.

This abandonment by my mother, and/or God, has left me feeling empty my entire life.

No thanks to God if that is how he shows love to his children.

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: spelling

At the time, I didn't know if I believed or not. This, among with other examples, lead me to believe that there couldn't be a God. If there is a God, I do not believe in a theistic God. A prime mover, perhaps, but that is a different subject.

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: (no reason given)

How can you say your mother abandoning your was a bad thing?
She could have been a drug addict who pimped you out for drug money.
She could have been an alcoholic who abused you every time she laid eyes on you.
Hell, she could have been psychotic and murdered you in your sleep.
And yes, let's blame it on God, because Humans don't have free will.

I guess it all depends on your outlook on life.

For me, I say it is a good and bad thing.

Good: I know now how NOT to treat my children.

Bad: I grew up, and now live as an adult, with a constant need to prove myself. If my own mother didn't want me, who will? That might be the wrong way of looking at things, but it's impossible for me not to see it that way. It has negatively affected my schooling, my work life, my personal life etc.

Free will, if he exists, sure would explain her actions. But that does not alleviate the pain I have always, and will always feel.

Again, does that sound like the story who is loved by God?

reply to post by GmoS719


How very mature.

I'll kindly look over your posts in this thread if that is all you can add.

Originally posted by Daemonicon

Originally posted by GmoS719

Originally posted by Daemonicon
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

I don't believe I did cry out to God. If I did, it was to ask him why he felt it was necessary to have my mom abandon me at a young age. A loving God would not allow such a thing to happen to a small boy.

This abandonment by my mother, and/or God, has left me feeling empty my entire life.

No thanks to God if that is how he shows love to his children.

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: spelling

At the time, I didn't know if I believed or not. This, among with other examples, lead me to believe that there couldn't be a God. If there is a God, I do not believe in a theistic God. A prime mover, perhaps, but that is a different subject.

edit on 10-7-2012 by Daemonicon because: (no reason given)

How can you say your mother abandoning your was a bad thing?
She could have been a drug addict who pimped you out for drug money.
She could have been an alcoholic who abused you every time she laid eyes on you.
Hell, she could have been psychotic and murdered you in your sleep.
And yes, let's blame it on God, because Humans don't have free will.

I guess it all depends on your outlook on life.

For me, I say it is a good and bad thing.

Good: I know now how NOT to treat my children.

Bad: I grew up, and now live as an adult, with a constant need to prove myself. If my own mother didn't want me, who will? That might be the wrong way of looking at things, but it's impossible for me not to see it that way. It has negatively affected my schooling, my work life, my personal life etc.

Free will, if he exists, sure would explain her actions. But that does not alleviate the pain I have always, and will always feel.

Again, does that sound like the story who is loved by God?

I'm pretty sure unless this happened to you then everything you just said is pointless.

Originally posted by Daemonicon
reply to post by GmoS719

 

How very mature.

I'll kindly look over your posts in this thread if that is all you can add.

LOL, I was trying to lighten the situation.
And you do that, but kindly.

Originally posted by Jefferton
reply to post by GmoS719

 

Coming from a brainless chrsitian I am not offended in the least.

How can an atheist be so presumptuous, and so arrogant, that's what I'd like to know.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by Jefferton
reply to post by GmoS719

 

Coming from a brainless chrsitian I am not offended in the least.

How can an atheist be so presumptuous, and so arrogant, that's what I'd like to know.

Amen Brother, Amen.