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Originally posted by charles1952
You are completely correct that the word "Capitalism" is not in the Constittution. Is your conclusion that Capitalism is unconstitutional?
Islam is not in the Constitution, so . . .
What economic system do you think the Founders were thinking of that guaranteed commerce and private ownership of property?
I believe the economic system known as Capitalism is encouraged and enforced in the Constitution, just as freedom of religion encourages the freedom to choose the religion you want. The Constitution's support for capitalism is the only conclusion that seems legitimate to me.
I'm pointing out how people yell about things being in the Constitution (or not being in it) and conveniently ignore when things that they believe in are not in it.
Ahhh, that's not nice. (It turns out that it is also not true. Unless you are referring to the fact that there are so many different schools of Socialist thought that very few people can keep up with them all.)
Also, just so you know, because I'm sure you don't since most Right-wingers don't
Ok, but that's why I believe Socialism is unconstitutional. Our Constitution doesn't allow for those things.
in Socialism the people own everything.
Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership and/or control of the means of production and cooperative management of the economy.
Originally posted by CoolerAbdullah786
reply to post by Gridrebel
OK. So then your reasoning doesn't fall into jealousy, it falls into the other category I mentioned of "greed." You don't think "your" money should go to benefit people via education or health care.
So all people in prison are murderers? Or you only object to murderers having internet access (which is false I'm pretty sure. I do believe not every inmate gets internet access, especially if they are violent offenders)?
What about car thieves? Or people in prison on a petty weed bust? Should they be allowed access to the internet?
Seems to me like you are a bit judgmental of people in prison as if you are better than them.
Originally posted by charles1952
I hope I'm not irritating you with my persistence,
Ahhh, that's not nice. (It turns out that it is also not true. Unless you are referring to the fact that there are so many different schools of Socialist thought that very few people can keep up with them all.)
Ok, but that's why I believe Socialism is unconstitutional. Our Constitution doesn't allow for those things.
So, can we find common ground?
Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.
Originally posted by Anonymous404
reply to post by Gridrebel
Now we can look at recidivism rates of countries with less strict/more humane prison systems where the goals therein are to rehabilitate instead of simply confine...hmmm...much lower.
But hey, this is a healthcare thread.
I take it you've not spent any time inside one of your jails.
edit on 7/3/2012 by Anonymous404 because: (no reason given)
I mean, if you say I can't find a reference to watermelon in any of the founding documents, and there are no founding documents you'll let me look in, then I suppose I have to concede. (Not much of a debate, though.)
No religion is mentioned in the constitution, or any founding documents for that matter.