World Overpopulation Myth Debunked

Originally posted by Synergy23
Notice the time of publication ;-)

Your point?

Originally posted by Synergy23
Furthermore, the larger point was to posit the fact that behavior seems to be modified by factors external to genetics. To say otherwise, the burden of proof is on you.

Proof.

Originally posted by imherejusttoread

Originally posted by Synergy23
Notice the time of publication ;-)

Your point?

See the edit. Biological determinism is all or nothing. Skepticism of biological determinism requires no such uniformity because if behavior is relative to environmental factors it is variable by default. The Psychology Today article draws the distinction between different forms of hunter gatherer societies. Try reading it.

Another source: anthropologymuseum.net...:egalitarianism&catid=27:bai-nghien-cu-kho-c&Itemid=35

"Simple" Archetype:

Diet: Terrestrial game
Settlement size: Small
Food storage: Little to no dependence
Social organization: No corporate groups
Political organization: Egalitarian
Warfare: Rare
Slavery: Absent
Ethic of competition: Not tolerated
Resource ownership: Diffuse
Exchange: Generalized reciprocity


"Complex" Archetype:

Diet: Marine or plant foods
Settlement size: Large
Food storage: Medium to high dependence
Social organization: Corporate descent groups
Political organization: Hierarchical; classes based on wealth or descent
Warfare: Common
Slavery: Frequent
Ethic of competition: Encouraged
Resource ownership: Tightly controlled
Exchange: Wealth objects, competitive feasts

reply to post by XB70

n ancient graves excavated previously, Bowles found that up to 46 per cent of the skeletons from 15 different locations around the world showed signs of a violent death. More recently, war inflicted 30 per cent of deaths among the Ache, a hunter-gatherer population from Eastern Paraguay, 17 per cent among the Hiwi, who live in Venezuela and Colombia, while just 4 per cent among the Anbara in northern Australia.

On average, warfare caused 14 per cent of the total deaths in ancient and more recent hunter-gatherers populations.

Journal reference: Science (DOI: 10.1126/science.1168112)

Link

Still want to argue humans are non violent?

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by XB70

 

n ancient graves excavated previously, Bowles found that up to 46 per cent of the skeletons from 15 different locations around the world showed signs of a violent death. More recently, war inflicted 30 per cent of deaths among the Ache, a hunter-gatherer population from Eastern Paraguay, 17 per cent among the Hiwi, who live in Venezuela and Colombia, while just 4 per cent among the Anbara in northern Australia.

On average, warfare caused 14 per cent of the total deaths in ancient and more recent hunter-gatherers populations.

Journal reference: Science (DOI: 10.1126/science.1168112)

Link

Still want to argue humans are non violent?

So you cherry pick one journal article on a theory that is admittedly controversial and proclaim victory?

By the way, anthropological estimates for the creation of agriculture have it beginning roughly 10,000 years ago. (Source) Ever heard of a confounding variable?

From your article: "No one knows for sure when these changes happened, but climactic swings that occurred between approximately 10,000 to 150,000 years ago in the late Pleistocene period may have pushed once-isolated bands of hunter-gatherers into more frequent contact with one another, says Samuel Bowles"

Take a look at the two achetypes I cited earlier. Which do you think would have existed before that time?

reply to post by thehoneycomb


It's not the people everyone is worried about....it's the resources. What happens if there are 8 billion+ people around 2040 and water supplies are running out, gasoline is on a short supply, helium is far gone (helium shortages are not funny).

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by thehoneycomb

 

Its ok if your 12 miles is a Bread Basket area.

Would suck if its above the Artic Circle.

Jokes aside, its not room thats the problem, its Resources.

The world is Over-populated.

The world is underpopulated.

We need to reproduce more.