German Police remove helmets and join " Blockupy" Frankfurt ((March))

This is not the Breaking News thread. His headline does not have to be the same as the articles headline.

They didn't join it at all. They were escorting a planned protest and there was no threat of violence (hence no need for helmets). The same thing happens when the WBC have a protest or extremist groups have a planned march but that doesn't mean the police are joining the protest.

Similar non-planned 'occupy' protests in Frankfurt have been broken up by the police before. This is the way a protest should be done, in cooperation with the authorities instead of having a disorganized rabble show up unannounced and act like they own the place.

Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
This is not the Breaking News thread. His headline does not have to be the same as the articles headline.

Scroll up.

Originally posted by 00nunya00

Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
This is not the Breaking News thread. His headline does not have to be the same as the articles headline.

Scroll up.

Sarcasm.

Originally posted by ErroneousDylan

Originally posted by 00nunya00

Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
This is not the Breaking News thread. His headline does not have to be the same as the articles headline.

Scroll up.

Sarcasm.

Way over my head, then.

I can't wait for the day that some police start getting fed up. I'd love to see them refuse to take orders and side with protesters. Maybe that's just wishful thinking, but I wonder how many of them can see through the BS. Probably more than you think.

Originally posted by lifeissacred
They didn't join it at all. They were escorting a planned protest and there was no threat of violence (hence no need for helmets). The same thing happens when the WBC have a protest or extremist groups have a planned march but that doesn't mean the police are joining the protest.

Similar non-planned 'occupy' protests in Frankfurt have been broken up by the police before. This is the way a protest should be done, in cooperation with the authorities instead of having a disorganized rabble show up unannounced and act like they own the place.

edit on 24-5-2012 by lifeissacred because: (no reason given)

Ok...whatever..I am so beyond giving a poop atm...you lot must be sooo bored .

Go do what I did..actually hook up with Blockupy people and ask some of the the protestors who were there on the day..only way to get to the bottom of it....
What I got from them was that yes they were escorted...but many Ive spoken to all say they did join.."unofficially" one even told me a Sergent picked up a stick and beat a drum and most were joking around and having fun with protestors...so even if they weren't there marching in an official capacity..it was grand to see police using their minds and peaceful presence instead of brute force and shocking abuse.



Ro

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by Rosha



The source of the video which led me to post HAS the headline exactly as stated.

So where is that link? It's not anywhere in your OP.

Also, where is the proof in ANY of your links that the police 'joined' the march, as your headline claims?

Oh for the love of god..I posted a news item stanguilles7....get over yourself.

I posted a news item.

I don't need to provide proof of anything..the new items link is there the headline is their's and I posted the news item authentically and faithfully - meaning I didn't change any context or part of it to suit myself or to make an opinion nor did I add or detract from the item as it appeared to me.

My comments - second post, are there and were expressive of the caveat that said that I DON'T know the exact scenario on the ground.

I personally did NOT postulate any scenario so no burden of proof is even required!

I just CLEARLY stated and said that I loved the news....loved the headline..loved the story and the saw pics of officers marching WITH rather than beating up people.

I don't quite know who you think you are but please...give it up.

I posted a news item and made a comment on it...I'm not running for congress or on trial...and certainly not answerable to you.


Ro

Originally posted by 00nunya00

Originally posted by Rosha

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by Rosha



The source of the video which led me to post HAS the headline exactly as stated.

So where is that link? It's not anywhere in your OP.

Also, where is the proof in ANY of your links that the police 'joined' the march, as your headline claims?

In the breaking news section it says to add ' your comments'..and I did..and it separated them into two posts - not my issue.
In the ' my comments' I linked to the you tube video directly. Again, an error of placement not a reason for such aggressive paranoia.



Rosha

It's not aggressive paranoia; there's a strict standard for BAN forum threads, and the exact title of the article you're quoting from is the biggest standard. The article you quote from is not titled such, your YouTube video in the opinions post is titled "#blockupy. Frankfurt am Main, 19. Mai 2012" and there's no headline like yours in any of the supporting links either. He's just asking where the title came from, especially because that would be the source to go to if we wanted to verify the veracity of your assertion that the police actually "joined" the march. It looks like they just took their helmets off while on an assigned march escort.

When I saw the video the title had the above headline written clearly on it..I cut and pasted it directly. If its been changed on utube, then its been changed in the last few hours.

He wasn't just asking where the title came from he was insinuating I was being dishonest..and trying to flex muscles he doesn't have.

If the mods don't, want it here..they can ban it..I have no problem with that..if there was a 'thread delete key' and given this level of paranoia and kind of vitriol..Id use it myself....it's so petty.



Ro

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Why are you getting hung up on details?

Why not try to contribute to the topic itself?

If American police had the common sense, they'd put down their batons and tasers and do the same!

Please change your misleading thread title.

No such thing as "Police joins Protest" has occured.

Your thread title is intentionally misleading.


ETA: Here is an actual Article frmo a German newspaper. It says the police is advancing on the protesters.

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They are using water cannons. Doesn't sound like "Joining the protest" to me at all.

Reason why the moved along with the march : the intent of their presence lol

Reason why helmets off : it was a hot day and peacefull protest

Give me 5min of my life back pls !

It actually says a lot in my opinion that they took off their helmets. I don't think they joined the march but if you follow protests from around the world you will see that no matter how small or how peaceful the police show up, often in riot gear and it's meant to intimidate, it's also meant to convey to the audience that protesters are a threat. I don't know about Germany but here in the US the police if told to put on riot gear have to remain in riot gear regardless of how hot it is.

Whether it was intentional or not I can easily see this being interpreted by protesters as a sign of solidarity from those officers. LEOs and protesters have a deep understanding of subtle gestures and body language from one to the other.

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Wrong in every instance.

German Police has a written policy to not wear riot gear if possible, especially helmets, as to not provoke violence and to display being "close to the people". It has got nothing to do with them showing solidarity. The protest has been banned, and they are using water cannons to disperse the crowd.

Originally posted by satron
It's nice to see where tyranny will exist and not exist in the future.

The Germans have already been through the process. They have no desire to experience it again.

America has not had its' turn, yet.

Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
Please change your misleading thread title.

No such thing as "Police joins Protest" has occured.

Your thread title is intentionally misleading.


ETA: Here is an actual Article frmo a German newspaper. It says the police is advancing on the protesters.

CLICK

They are using water cannons. Doesn't sound like "Joining the protest" to me at all.

edit on 24-5-2012 by H1ght3chHippie because: syntax

scroll back..read the thread thus far and see the context ..please....

or not..stay ignorant...i don't care.


Ro

>done <

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I don't recall anyone saying ALL the police joined, did it ever occur to you that SOME police might have a problem with banning protest? I didn't even say they did, I said I can see how easily it could be interpreted as such.

Nah. This is normal german police tactics in most of the protests held: form a massive cordon left and right of the march with full gear, be present but passive (until violence breaks out).

the fact they took hlmets off is because
A. The crowd is peaceful
b. It was a very hot day und the whole robocopgear and darthvader helmets are nasty/heavy and hot to wear on a summer day.

Also the speaker on the sytems calls to the police: you can go and grab an icecream, your job is done here.

The crowd shouts:
Ihr könnt nach hause gehen. (you can go home). And
Samstags frei für die Polizei (saturday, day off for the police).

both standard chants, which i heard on every demo i ve been to in germany.

So i don t see them joining the crowd, just normal passive police work. As well it might help deescalate a bit, when you see human faces instead of robocop-darthvaders on the left and right of you.

When SHTF the helmets are faster on than you can shout 'please don t beat me'

Police was NOT "joining the march".

This was the peaceful part of the march, so the officers were just relaxing a bit on a long and hot day.
German police are used to black bloc riots here (which actually originated in Germany) so they didn't feel threatened by the peacful part of the march = helmets off.
They were wearing their helmets near the black bloc part of the march.

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by Rosha
Secondly the headline isn't mine, its direct from the Occupy Montreal web site and it is being widely reported esp though police.net and through blockupy themselves as ' police joined the march'.

The headline from your 'source', as posted, is "20,000 people march at a Frankfurt Occupy protest: German police Read it on Global News: Global Winnipeg | 20,000 people march at a Frankfurt Occupy protest: German police"

In 'breaking' news you are supposed to use the exact headline as your source. Its also supposed to be no older than 36 hours. This is datelined 4 days ago.

I'd be interested to know why these cops have their helmits off and appear to be marching 'with' these protesters, but none of your cited articles make any mention of it beyond the one or two photos.

I am trying to understand what the point of your post is. It reeks of pure negativity as if an uptight Victorian school teacher was about to hit a kid with a ruler because he broke the silence to say "Merry Christmas!"

The story is just another grain of sand that will, bit by bit, cover over the old, stale and rotten way of doing things. Another way to look at is, the story is another point of light shining through the crumbling wall of tyranny that is about to come crashing down regardless of last minute, pathetic attempts to reinforce it with spit and belly button lint. (that last bit is a metaphor for the nattering naybobs of negativism on this site)