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Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by troubleshooter
So the word 'Easter' (Ester) in Anglo Saxon was used for both the Passover and the Christian celebration of the resurrection...
...as it is in other European languages to this day.
I have no quarrel with the etymology of the term. I have issues with whether or not this man really existed. Previously I believed he did, and my entire "spiritual view" of the Divine was based on that.
Originally posted by troubleshooter
reply to post by wildtimes
What pagan goddess was a virgin ... lots of people say it but there is no such thing.
It is important in discussing Neith as autogene, or self-created Virgin Mother...first to establish her preeminence in the Egyptian pantheon. Neith...was one of the oldest of all Egyptian deities and one of the most important divinities during the early historic period. There is strong evidence that her worship was widespread in predynastic times... She is first documented iconographically in the last phase of the predynastic period (c. fourth millennium B.C.E.)... (26)
Originally posted by Danbones
while everyone is waiting for a savior the damn ship is going to the dogs
Even agnostic New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman says scholars agree that Jesus existed and died by crucifixion...
...the historical sources for this is better attested than other well known Roman figures.
Perhaps you could read his latest book Did Jesus exist?
I have no more come here to crucify you than I wish to be crucified, but if you genuinely would like a discussion on this matter, then I suppose you're stuck with me in the same way those nuns and priest were while I was in parochial school.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
I have no more come here to crucify you than I wish to be crucified, but if you genuinely would like a discussion on this matter, then I suppose you're stuck with me in the same way those nuns and priest were while I was in parochial school.
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okay.....
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controlling how a discussion should go.
Heck, as kid, when I saw "2001, a Space Odyssey," I thought it was a true story!
“The presidential candidate with the most royal genes and chromosomes has, up to now, always won the White House,” say the researchers at Burke’s Peerage. They say Bush’s blue blood runs thicker than Vice President Al Gore’s. In fact it trumps the royal ties of every other President to date, including his father’s. It seems George W. has inherited his mother’s deep blue blood-line.
“His Royal Highness, King Dubya
“Burke’s publishing director, Harold Brooks-Baker says Bush’s royal connections are startling. “[Bush] is closely related to every European Monarch both on and off the throne,” says Brooks-Baker.
Originally posted by wildtimes
The nativity yarn is a concatenation of nonsense. The genealogies of Jesus, both Matthew's version and Luke's, are pious fiction. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs.
Says Atwill, “I did not share in this certainty.” What contributed most to his skepticism was that at the exact time the followers of Jesus were purportedly organizing themselves into a religion that urged its members to “turn the other cheek” and to “give to Caesar what is Caesar’s”, another Judean sect was waging a religious war against the Romans and seeking a Messiah who would lead them militarily. Atwill continues, “It seemed implausible to me that two diametrically opposite forms of messianic Judaism would have emerged from Judea at the same time. So the Dead Sea Scrolls became of such interest to me that I began what turned into a decade-long study of them.” Like others, Atwill was hoping to learn something of Christian origins in the 2,000 year old documents found at Qumran. To assist in his understanding of them, Atwill began studying the history of the era.
It was then that Joseph Atwill came across the key that led to his discoveries. “While reading Josephus’ War of the Jews, and his account of Titus’ destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE,” Atwill recounts, “I noticed some curious parallels. At first I could make no sense of the parallels between Titus’ campaign and Jesus’ ministry. So I tried to look at the Gospels with fresh eyes, as if I had never seen them before, giving up any preconceived notions about what they meant.” This perspective resulted in the discoveries Atwill presents in Caesar’s Messiah and his soon-to-be-published book, The Single Strand. A Roman imperial family, the Flavians, had created Christianity, and, even more incredibly, they had placed a literary satire within the Gospels and War of the Jews to inform posterity of this fact.
- - excerpt from interview page
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by troubleshooter
More unscholarly disinformation...
What? Why should I take your word for it and not look into it myself, please? I don't believe Klassified is giving "disinformation"....
what is your angle here?
Originally posted by wildtimes
The nativity yarn is a concatenation of nonsense. The genealogies of Jesus, both Matthew's version and Luke's, are pious fiction. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs.