Is Obama planning a COUP by discrediting the Secret Service?

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

Your defination of honorable and mine are very different.

Maybe, but I personally see no problem with an honest racist. It is the secret ones that are dangerous. These days I see people that don't mind speaking their views, and I can respect a certain amount of that, but then I see people that try to "confide" in me secretly, because we are both white, and that bothers the hell out of me!

When I say we are all racist, there of course are varying degrees. Some don't want to be in the same room, while others just don't want someone dating their daughter, while still others are fine as long as they aren't alone in a dark alley. This goes both ways by the way. I don't care about anyone's personal view, if it is open and honest and has some flexibility for the individuals, but I can't stand people who are politically correct, but then act differently when alone, or say one thing and their actions speak differently.

Back to your SS friend, if he disbanded his little dinner party to exclude the black guy, then that is his right. Better than including the guy just to ridicule or hate on him in private.

reply to post by phantomjack

has been a top notch bunch of honorable men.

Oh I don't know about that PJ,

the thing that galls me is the finger pointers in our government prolly do the same thing, we have all these congressional hearings and accusers, they aint no better.
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JFK

He has had affairs with White House workers, Gangsters girlfriends, staff members, reporters, and Movie stars. There was always a swarm of girls being secretly admited into the White House for Jack's personal pleasures. And he used the Secret Service to cover his tracks and make sure there was no "evidence" of the affair left behind for his wife Jackie to find. It is even said that he had often participated in 3-somes as well with 2 women at the same time. Kennedy had the type of penetrating life style that any man would be jealous over.

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Florida just enacted a law to drug test all state workers, but they excluded the Congress? Hmmm? Why would they toss that exclusion in there? Why do 100,000 workers, but leave out a few hundred elected politicians on the same payroll?

reply to post by AwakeinNM

If it is, then it is most likely a regular occurrence that is common knowledge of the president's inner circle and the president himself. Why is it a problem now? Why is it a big problem if it is the same old Secret Service antics on the road? Perhaps something else at play here?

No doubt in my mind they know exactly what's going on, politicians are notorious for this sorta thing behind closed doors.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

Florida just enacted a law to drug test all state workers, but they excluded the Congress? Hmmm? Why would they toss that exclusion in there? Why do 100,000 workers, but leave out a few hundred elected politicians on the same payroll?

Did they really?

It's like this, the dishwasher needs a drug test, but the president don't.

I don't get it.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I think someone else is trying to remove the SS so they can infiltrate someone to knock the pres off.

This sort of incident would normally be kept VERY hush hush, why was it plastered all over the media?

I have to agree about keeping it hush hush, but in this day and age news travels fast, and it wasn't like back in the day when the press would keep quiet.

Wait did I just say that?

LOL

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Drug testing: Florida aims to be first to test public workers
New Florida drug-testing law allows agency heads to randomly test public workers for illegal drugs, prescription drugs, and alcohol. But it exempts the governor and state legislators.

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I'll be fine, but there might be a lot of jobs opening up soon!

Originally posted by kingkool
You know, your use of the word "coup" really got my imagination running.

What if Obama really is setting himself up to be King/Dictator by discrediting governing bodies.

Follow me on this:

-Discredits the Supreme Court by allowing/forcing them to overturn 60 years of campaign finance reform + Obamacare.

-Discredits Senate/Congress repeatedly by passing/forcing them to pass unconstitutional laws/acts i.e. Congressional Super Committee (taxation without representation), NDAA (arrest american citizens without due process), making protesting illegal (HR347), SOPA & Drones (spying on Americans)

After making fools out of everyone he declares during a State of Union address, "I orchestrated this all as a test of your devotion to duties of your office and you have all FAILED!" He has them all arrested and declares;

"I ALONE AM FIT TO RUN THE UNITED STATES!"

There is your "coup"

Again, another interesting theory/spin on it.

Though, I would like to remind you all that the POTUS is just a figure head. He is not the one pulling the strings.

This draws the question of just about everything this POTUS does seems to be in the complete opposite direction of what we have seen in presidents over the last 50 or so years. This POTUS seems to be very polarizing. And he does it with ease -- I think because he is being tutored, and has been groomed most of his life, to do what could bring the end to the USA as we know it.

He has also discredited the military, by the way, in many ways over the last 3 years. And from the military people I know, and have spoken to, this POTUS is less respected than even Clinton was.

Originally posted by karen61057

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Perhaps as an excuse to establish a security force separate from the secret service in preparation for the dictatorship to come, since secret service might be a threat to a dictatorship.

Yes, of couse..that is the most reasonable conclusion one could come up with.

Ho-gate is not just some guys getting horny, its about a guy trying to become a dictator, so therefore destroying his bodyguards reputation for...___...and then somehow that will allow the red army to roll in...

Someone told me once that the secret service was made up by humans that actually got randy on their time off...but that can't be true...because you know...global warming or whatnot..

You said all of that with a straight face??? No wonder your eyes are going bonkers. I just gave that post a personal "Yeah right" when I read it.

For what its worth, though, the term "Ho-Gate" made me roll in laughter!

Originally posted by karen61057

Originally posted by bknapple32
Its simply laughable now. Obama is responsible for anything to some of you guys.

So far the tally...

Hes a kenyan muslim ( with ties to very evil christian pastors) who stole the election because he disenfranchised white voters and isnt even the legal potus. He was behind the bp oil spill, he wants death panels, a communist, a marxist, and a socialist, hes plotting the next 9/11 to take over martial law, and now creates a coup to dismantle his secret service agents so he can again instate martial law... I know im leaving something out...

what will your imaginations do when he is out of office in 8 months or 4 years???

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Its four years. In case your wondering. LOL. Yes, this president has accomplished so much more than any other president before him. Amazing.

Please tell me that was sarcasm? I was beginning to like you...

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Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

So lets see, to be a basic SS agent the requirements are

1) You must be a US citizen. ( Long form must be presented LOL)

2) You must be between age 21 and less than 37 at the start of your career.

3) You must posses a current drivers license

4) Have better than 20/60 eye sight without corrective lenese.

For GL7 you need the above plus a BA and yes you must be a member of an honor society from school.

For GL9 the above and a master degree in a field valid to the position.

It doesn't say you have to be a saint. It gives no moral standards that need to be attained.
You would like that they are moral upstanding people and I am betting that for the most part they are but they dont have to be to get this particular job. So if SaturnFX gives them human qualities you can let them keep them.

Yes, BUT -- morality = character = loyalty. They are all tied together, in what ever order you want to place them.

I am in no way saying they are not men, and not human. But I think that better judgement should have been exercised...and, what just doesn't add up is 11 agents all putting themselves in jeopardy at one time is just mind boggling.

I have no issue with what SS do or military do on their spare time. I have no problem with prostitution, and think it should be legalized in the USA. But something just doesn't feel right about this incident.

reply to post by phantomjack

Do you despise the current President so much that you have to immediately put a "spin" on a story about the Secret Service? The reason you don't hear about the Secret Service is because they're SECRET. It's in their name. Second, this kind of thing has probably been going on under the radar since they were formed. Third, President Obama is not discrediting them. THEY HAVE DISCREDITED HIM. The very people entrusted with his life **compromised** him and our nation by having details of his visit in their rooms while unvetted persons (the prostitutes) had access. The reason this has made headlines is because the Secret Service has been such a top-notch reputation until these agents ruined it. And you blame the President? Really? C'mon. Try, at least, to disguise it a little better. I suppose if an asteroid were to hit this planet it would be his fault, too, right? Or maybe the fact that men will never figure out how women truly think is Obama's fault, too, right? Just lump it all on the guy while you're at it. LOL

reply to post by phantomjack

when was the last time you ever heard anything about the Secret Service?

Prior to this we recently heard about his daughter in Mexico during the earthquake with her 12 friends and 13 SS agents for her 13th birthday.

Prior to that the only thing I remember was GWBush's underage daughters in an Austin, Texas bar with the SS.

Is it possible that the President and his puppeteers are using this incident to discredit the SS and force a total replacement of the service by the President's own, chosen, men?

Does the President even get to chose his SS agents or are they hired by some other agency?

reply to post by phantomjack


You mean the same way Bush Jr was supposed to stage a coup too?

There already was a coup. In case you didn't notice, America is not run by Obama, or any of the politicians you elect. It is run by those wealthy individuals who are more powerful then them, in conjunction with the military industrial complex.

Proof of this came when capitalism was abandoned and your government handed the entire economic wealth of the nation and its people to the corporations and bankers.

If the government was working for the people, they would have stuck to the true capitalism framework and allowed those failed and corrupt businesses to collapse, to be replaced by their competitors. They didn't. The ONLY explanation for that act was that the government is owned by those corporations.

Originally posted by karen61057

Originally posted by Danbones
well there is a bunch of guys that can't blow the whistle on obama...
or whoever

Why do you say that?
Do they also take an oath of silence ? These guys could rat out a president if there was ratting out needed. What, keep your mouth shut about anything you might see or your fired ??? These are union positions and you cant get fired all that easily. These guys are not fired are they ? No, their clearance has been lowered but they're still working SS.

Any potential whistleblowers in the group have been headed off at the pass...no book deals.
Ususally when thay expose scandals like this in the midst of all the scandals that could see the light of day its to serve a lower purpose.

Like the whole Straus Kahn affair...Or Elliot Spitzor

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I hate to tell you this, but the Secret Service is a branch of the Federal Reserve. It is assigned to the POTUS by the Federal Reserve and the SS is paid by the Federal Reserve. So, it would seem that the coup d'etat has already taken place long ago.

Hopefully, Obama isn't an arrogant enough meat puppet to think he can break away from his handlers and become an independent thinker (pinochioytis syndrome). I'd pay good money for ringside seats to see that scenario unwind but I am sure it would end badly.

Cheers - Dave

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I hate to tell you this, but the Secret Service is a branch of the Federal Reserve. It is assigned to the POTUS by the Federal Reserve and the SS is paid by the Federal Reserve. So, it would seem that the coup d'etat has already taken place long ago.

Hopefully, Obama isn't an arrogant enough meat puppet to think he can break away from his handlers and become an independent thinker (pinochioytis syndrome). I'd pay good money for ringside seats to see that scenario unwind but I am sure it would end badly.

Cheers - Dave

edit on 4/18.2012 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)

The Secret Service is a branch of Homeland Security, and before that Treasury.

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