Am I the only one that believes America needs a second revolution?

reply to post by CottonwoodStormy


I stopped listening when he got to the part about Islamic extremism. Haven't we got enough to worry about with all the corporate/government extremism right here in our own back yard? And THEY can GET to us with a plethora of weapons of mass destruction, unlike some shepherd in the middle east who's still trying to find his flock since the last drone attack.

And anyway, sorry Stormy, but IMO, Steve Quayle has always been an irrational fear monger.

Can somebody let me know how they think of my idea of getting organized? What do you guys think? Feasible?

reply to post by abeverage


The thing is that myself, and I am sure many people like me are just so fed up with the way things are going that I JUST DON'T CARE!!! Anything will be a welcome change we will be free or die, period!! I just don't care anymore about pussyfooting around with letters and phone calls and useless protests. I personally think it is time to start holding those of this corrupt system, including some of the media accountable. The time for peace is over. It does no and will not work. Just like kids growing up, you can beg and plead, inform, but they will not learn until they experience it the hard way!!

reply to post by Swing80s


Leaderless Resistance is a better plan.

en.wikipedia.org...

An example:

Paul Beaver in Fort Lauderdale and Peter Beaumont
Sunday March 11, 2007
The Observer
The military is also hampered in its attempts to break up insurgent groups because of their 'flat' command structure within collaborative networks of small groups, making it difficult to target any hierarchy within the insurgency.

www.guardian.co.uk...

just need to infiltrate the government and bend the laws around a bit to fix what's wrong with it.

not potentially destroy the whole process the last revolution created in the name of solutions.

Only if the 2 dimensional thinkers (true communists, socialists, fascists, thugocrats, corporatists and the like) do not have a single word of influence in the restructuring after the constitutional convention. Evil cannot have a say at the table, the same building, or the same planet. If there is to be a revolution is needs to be in order to eliminate the voice of evil from having any influence.

reply to post by JohnCreed777


An evolution is more like it, otherwise replaced by what? The same thing just dressed differently with different slang, nothing more.

Those who wield influence want you to take to the streets as an armed mob. They want you to launch uprisings and to attack government institutions and officials.

And when you do..... bye bye civilian gun ownership... hello martial law and full blown U.N. International Peace Keepers on U.S. soil. Makes it all the easier for them to oppress you. When you use force, likewise you receive force.

If you fight, that's what will happen. The change we dream of comes through massive education campaigns of truth and corruption. Truth should be shouted from the rooftops until every human realizes the ugliness of our collective mankind that we so eagerly have been ignoring. Change occurs through unity in Peace and a societal and global choice to no longer participate in the wars, greed, and the enslavement machine.

Peace.

I am just curious, What would happen if a larger militia group were to have like 500 snipers assigned to every office held right down the chain of command. track and follow every move of the person they are assigned to the point of knowing when they go to the bathroom. Then once the logistics are worked out, at the same time take everyone of them out. Hijack the national brood cast system and televise an explanation to the public stating that replacement elections will be held immediately after the people regain control of our government. Anyone who is a registered voter is welcome to put your name in the hat for what ever office they would like to run for provided they are constitutionally qualified! what would the outcome be?

I know this is just not possible realistically but just curious what people think.

We need a re-declaration of Independence. All races included. This will promote unity, instead of fueling the racial tensions by saying: one group of people is granting the independence and freedom of another.

Instead, we all stand together to declare our natural human rights.

Black, white, brown, all colors in unison.

as I see it this country is irretrievably divided left and right. I would like to see the coasts secede, possibly with the northern tier, and form a Progressive States of America. all the leftists/liberals could implement their huge powerful gummint and the rest of us could go back to the founders' original small-government idea. this could be done with negotiation and no bloodshed.

reply to post by xyankee


If you assassinate the entire U.S. Government, you are no better than any war-mongerer or tyrant. There is no such thing as "killing for peace." It's like having sex orgies to promote virginity and abstinence.

And even if you did accomplish such a task, there are other groups and think-tanks that would quickly step in. Probably committees connected to the CIA, CFR, or Trilateral Commision. Heck, the international community might even pass a U.N. Resolution to send in the Peace Keepers.

I don't know man.... this way of thinking is deeply flawed. Even those who you perceive as the "bad guys" are no different than your Self.

Peace.

Only if you are talking about a revolution of the mind.
Violence begets violence and in our case, attempted violence on a large scale would beget a massive pushback that would result in complete and total tyranny, justified by keeping the "good, dependent citizens" safe from the "violent domestic terrorists".
Ron Paul is living proof that ideas of liberty can spread with modern technology. He may be shut out of the establishment, but his impact with grassroots America and the younger generation will be a far reaching one.

reply to post by works4dhs


This would be a awesome compromise, one part could have there anti gun, and there big brother ways, and the other half can have there liberty, and freedom. You choose where you want to live!

reply to post by Sahabi


I am not advocating something like this I was just curious as to what people thought the out come would be. Please don't get the wrong idea!

People shout bloody murder and condemn the U.S. Government and "TPTB" for using war, violence, and covert tactics to accomplish their goals.

But when we are here to figure out how to solve our problems, so many in this thread are promoting violence against those that you condemn for their violence.

Hypocrisy! Sorry, it had to be said.

reply to post by xyankee


Our time is valuable. Our thoughts are valuable. The amount of time we spend on which kind of thoughts is very important. We should focus on realistic and peaceful solutions.

View any group that you consider "TPTB" as you would view your family or even your Self. Consider those innocents who are suffering as your family or as your Self. With this mentality, how do we solve our problems?

Peace.

more like an enema !

revolution is out of the question with drones and such, but maybe through peaceful demonstration we can get some things done

Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by xyankee

 

Our time is valuable. Our thoughts are valuable. The amount of time we spend on which kind of thoughts is very important. We should focus on realistic and peaceful solutions.

View any group that you consider "TPTB" as you would view your family or even your Self. Consider those innocents who are suffering as your family or as your Self. With this mentality, how do we solve our problems?

Peace.

If I understand what your saying correctly, I don't see how your Idea will work either. Take for example a family member who is a crack head, is always in trouble, steals from you and other family members to buy crack, there comes a point in time when you have to apply "tough love" and wash your hand of them. They need to completely hit rock bottom in the hope that they will come to some since of being, before you can even think about starting to talk to them. Change is a two way street, our problem right now is govt. is the crack head high on power and will not listen to reason. They do as they wish and give us the finger. I just don't know what options we have left.

reply to post by syrinx high priest


They need our cooperation and active participation to carry on with their SOP. If no one ~ or even a huge number of people refused to lift a finger to anything for an extended period of time, the apparatus would grind to a halt.