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Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
I find it interesting that for lack of finding a flaw in the rest of the logic, you have chosen one grammatical flaw in order to invalidate the rest.
You make very little sense yourself, most of the time. Logic? When have you used logic?
Frickin' ribbit.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Your Cause = Conditions
The Effect = Blindness
Ribbit
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by absolutely
'Knowing' is truth.
All seeing, all 'knowing' presence.
When you 'know' the truth of what you are.... you will not 'believe' anymore.
Ahhh...I have written on this topic before.
Most of the time, what we know is what we believe. We say we know something, but it turns out later we were wrong.
Knowledge has become largely taken for granted, even so far as to use the word "know" incorrectly. This is proven by those moments when we say to ourselves, "Oops, I was wrong. I owe an apology."
We have taken the definition of knowledge and replaced it with that of conviction, but retained the word knowledge. Everything is belief, or conviction...not everything is knowledge.
Originally posted by absolutely
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Your Cause = Conditions
The Effect = Blindness
Ribbit
ooh so u r telling me my conditions cause and my blindness effect from where u r cause effect of evil oness
u cant but mean to grasp any opportunity even from dirt, mister whatever is true is free always and whatever is free is by definition the only position to see out of all conditions
seeing evil and being forced by inferiority powers wills is the issue of being living real from what is true when truth is any normal sense so many
so ur pretention of being expert in hiding urself behind what u say is the only thing nude seen from oness life through ur words like an hybrid worm rat obvious mean move
Originally posted by absolutely
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by absolutely
How can constant mean plus? Constant means not plus or minus. Constant is constant.
The words you use have been used before - therefore you are copying words but your words make very little sense to me.
ur words are using sentences that have been written before, my words are mine clearly like anyone giving free opinion about present facts
for any normal non evil head here, it is obvious that constant is a plus, while u dont see but evil will in using constant word
what is constant is by definition more, since it inherently repeat its fact which become clear opening to smthg more
any average head know that, by repeating smthg to become expert of
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
There is a big difference between 'belief' and 'truth'. If you 'believe' then you do not 'know' the truth. When the truth is 'known' you will be free. Free from all confusion, you will never 'believe' anything again.
The truth shall set you free.
Belief will enslave you.
Thank you. You have lead us into the crux of the matter.
What if belief saves us from the chaos that would be triggered by truth? What if the truth would turn us into a irradiated wasteland, and belief is the illusion keeping the maniac in the straightjacket?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Starchild23
The truth is you are having an experience. You are here right now and that cannot be negated. It is the only thing that cannot be negated, it is the prime fact. Without that prime fact what other facts could there be.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Starchild23
Are you hearing, seeing, smelling, tasting, touching? Are you aware of the enviroment around you?
You are the knower of life, the knower of thought, the knower of sensation.
You 'know' you are.
Originally posted by Starchild23
My existence has nothing to do with worldly facts. You must separate yourself and your mind from fact. Your only connection to fact is your experience of it. Since your experience and your existence cannot change that fact, you are an observer, nothing more.
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Starchild23
Are you hearing, seeing, smelling, tasting, touching? Are you aware of the enviroment around you?
You are the knower of life, the knower of thought, the knower of sensation.
You 'know' you are.edit on 25-3-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
I know I am because while I can endlessly prove I exist, you cannot prove that I don't exist.
An abundance of confirmation, combined with a distinct lack of contradiction, becomes fact.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Starchild23
Are you hearing, seeing, smelling, tasting, touching? Are you aware of the enviroment around you?
You are the knower of life, the knower of thought, the knower of sensation.
You 'know' you are.edit on 25-3-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
I know I am because while I can endlessly prove I exist, you cannot prove that I don't exist.
An abundance of confirmation, combined with a distinct lack of contradiction, becomes fact.
What makes you think no one can prove the YOU doesn't exist?
Answer: Beliefs!
Ribbit
But if there is no You, how can you be having an experience?
You say We are here right now and that cannot be negated. That is part of the fallacy you have bought into, for explain "Here" to us.
Where is Here?
What if Here is Thought?
If Here is Thought, then you are kNot here, you are only CONNECTED to Here.
Experience that!
Ribbit
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Starchild23
My existence has nothing to do with worldly facts. You must separate yourself and your mind from fact. Your only connection to fact is your experience of it. Since your experience and your existence cannot change that fact, you are an observer, nothing more.
You have mixed apples with oranges again and the result is clearly fruit salad.
You said:
"Your only connection to fact is your experience of it."
The correct statement is:
Your only connection to EXISTENCE is your experience of it.
Fact does kNot equal Existence and you dew kNot experience Facts but you dew experience Existence.
Your only connection to Fact is Truth.
Ribbit
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Starchild23
Are you hearing, seeing, smelling, tasting, touching? Are you aware of the enviroment around you?
You are the knower of life, the knower of thought, the knower of sensation.
You 'know' you are.
You know You are WHAT?
Hearing = Electrical Impulses interpreted by the mind
Seeing = Electrical Impulses interpreted by the mind
Smelling = Electrical Impulses interpreted by the mind
Tasting = Electrical Impulses interpreted by the mind
Touching = Electrical Impulses interpreted by the mind
Awareness of Surroundings = Electrical Impulses interpreted by the mind
With that, your mind is the controlling factor of everything you know, sew if your mind is corrupted, your thoughts will be as well, which includes what you know.
Ribbit