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Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
I think these were small town cops just doing their job. And being very polite I might add. I would like to see this guy pull up at a state trooper checkpoint and do this.
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
To the people who support these checkpoints:
Since you think it's okay for police to have checkpoints for drivers because a few got drunk and caused damage, or bodily harm - is it okay to monitor Masjids for Muslims that MIGHT be plotting.
Or is it okay to moniter all Iranians because they might be sleeper agents??
Why not strip students butt naked at school so they don't hide drugs or weapons! Eliminates the drug problem and shrinks the risk of school shootings to 0%!
en.wikipedia.org...
Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz, 496 U.S. 444 (1990), was a United States Supreme Court case involving the constitutionality of police sobriety checkpoints. By a vote of 6-3, the Court held that these checkpoints met the Fourth Amendment standard of "reasonable search and seizure."
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The Court also held that the impact on drivers, such as in delaying them from reaching their destination, was negligible, and that the brief questioning to gain "reasonable suspicion" similarly had a negligible impact on the drivers' Fourth Amendment right from unreasonable search (implying that any more detailed or invasive searches would be treated differently). Applying a balancing test, then, the Court found that the Constitutionality of the search tilted in favor of the government.
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
I think these were small town cops just doing their job. And being very polite I might add. I would like to see this guy pull up at a state trooper checkpoint and do this.
When, when, WHEN did stopping people without evidence of a crime become "just doing their job"????
It used to be a time a drunk driver was identified by an "oh no, he's swering and can't seem to focus. I'm gonna stop him and breathalyze him." Now it's just a game of whack-a-mole???
Pull 'em all over and you might get one!
I know that I don't figure myself into a mental frenzy of fear and paranoia.
But you must think you got # all figured out, from Australia and what not...
Originally posted by atlasastro
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine
I know that I don't figure myself into a mental frenzy of fear and paranoia.
But you must think you got # all figured out, from Australia and what not...
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
reply to post by seabhac-rua
your assumptions, and fear mongering propaganda about hypothetical burglars and rapists makes me sick....
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
reply to post by seabhac-rua
your assumptions, and fear mongering propaganda about hypothetical burglars and rapists makes me sick....
Originally posted by atlasastro
I'm AUSTRALIAN and I KNOW this!
There are check points for DUI because society AGREES that it is acceptable.
Go out into YOUR OWN society and COMMUNICATE with your neighbours about the ISSUE. Its called democracy.
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No. But we have DUI stops.
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Do they set up checkpoints in Australia to verify you have a valid license?
I am already quite, because I don't run around on the net in a panic because police conduct DUI check points.
oh ok.... yea, shut up....
TSA on the roadways in Tennessee ring a bell? Naa, whatever, everybody who DOESN'T live here, knows best..
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
reply to post by seabhac-rua
you mean kinda like the police protecting people who want to use the cities safely?
i.e stopping "terror attacks"
And what? What would you rather? Idiots like you screaming 'police state, police state' would crap your pants if we lived in a society with no law enforcement. I'm not a big fan of cops, but I do know a few, and I can tell you one thing, the guy who would like to ransack your house, rape your sister and cut your throat, he's out there and the law is the only thing that makes himthink twice about doing it.