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Originally posted by monkeyfartbreath
reply to post by ShortMemory
It would help of you OWSers would come up with some sort of coherent message or list of changes you are requesting. I dont see what sitting around in a drum circle or sleeping til noon is going to accomplish. I dont really think we have to worry about OWSers causing a violent revolution, as they barely seem to have the gumption to do more than text message all day and string together unintelligible sentences about why they are there.
Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.
That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.
We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.
Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.
That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.
We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.
Originally posted by ShortMemory
Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.
That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.
We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.
money is the root of all evil.
i think it will happen eventually, people just need to realise that if it doesnt happen soon things are going to get ugly for the 99%
thing its were already the victims, and some people cant even see that.
You do realise that all those folks at OWS would be the first ones wiped out if the monetary system collapses or we go into some sort of armed conflict with one another, right?
So how is it that you plan to facilitate trade between individuals or societies without some form of money?
Originally posted by ShortMemory
reply to post by monkeyfartbreath
You do realise that all those folks at OWS would be the first ones wiped out if the monetary system collapses or we go into some sort of armed conflict with one another, right?
you do realise that the entire 99% will be f'd if we let the monetary system continue. i hate to break it to you but its a scam and you and everyone you know will end up screwed. look at the way money works, its a trap and were very close to the noose right now.
the economy is going to fall soon. we can deal with the long term problems and not do anything
or we can remove those that put this trap in place and have some short term effects
Change will come because it must. Revolution will happen because it is necessary. People will see when they open their eyes. This war has been waging for too long. We have finally come to the age of its apex. The tower has grown too tall. Collapse is inevitable.
Originally posted by ShortMemory
Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.
That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.
We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.
money is the root of all evil.
i think it will happen eventually, people just need to realise that if it doesnt happen soon things are going to get ugly for the 99%
thing its were already the victims, and some people cant even see that.
Not going to happen, humanity will have a future, they will ALWAYS have a future until the sun becomes a super nova.. Op being your own defeatist will only make you have a dreadful future..
Originally posted by ShortMemory
reply to post by monkeyfartbreath
Well with 1 and 2 in a fair system these things wouldnt be an issue.
there will always be someone willing to build a new building, if the system is fair then there is more money to spend on things like this..
we wouldnt need oil because if we had our system we would embrace the renewable energy that was chucked in the bin by corps many decades ago
education is not really an issue, people are always going to learn and we would be able to maintain the system and most likely make it more effective..
there would be no system of wealth, or atleast not like there is today
people wouldnt need to work any jobs if they could provide their own services for others..its all about working together
people wont fight if they are not oppressed
we could make healthcare free, it only costs so much today because people put profit over people.
most of the issues you raised are issues currently happening in the system they have in place, problems that are only going to get worse if we continue to follow the economy.
if they are your issues with change then i suggest you look where the world is heading if we dont change things..
Number one the system will never be fair, because life isnt fair. Some people are born smarter, some better looking, some more athletic, some with talents in the arts, some sick, some ignorant, some with ingrained foolishness, etc....
Renewable energy isnt feasible yet. It is not cost effective, and since you would have just collapsed the monetary system how do you suppose any of that could be paid for when we would have no money?
think about our societys prioritys at the current time. if we change our prioritys we can make things like health care and renewable energy easy and fair. even if healthcare costs money we can still reduce that cost, the current healthcare system is horribly wrong.
Healthcare will never be free. It costs money to provide healthcare. You need buildings, equipment, specialised training, supplies, etc....
But the fact is none of that would work at all if you had a system with no money to facilitate the transactions.
Money isnt evil. It cant be. It is an inanimate object. Only men can make things evil. So unless you change human nature overnight then things will remain more or less the same. Though I do admire your optimism. It reminds me of when I was young.
Originally posted by Faithmaker
Bump
Im sorry if some of this didnt make sense