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When is enough, enough?

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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:06 AM
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A message to everyone and anyone..
So OWS has been going on for around a month now, more and more people are opening their eyes thanks to their efforts. We are seeing a global awakening of the masses that im sure is showing the 1% that we are one and we know what’s right.
But its so blatantly obvious the 1% could not care less. It doesn’t take much too see that they are blatantly laughing in our faces and im sure no one expected them to but no one is listening. In one month we have seen countless videos of police brutality, bribing of law officials, banks denying their customers their right to service, slander coming from msm, government and the elite. The list goes on..

So i ask you all, when is enough, enough?
How long do we peacefully protest with the people it is directed at laughing in our faces?
How long until we realise that nothing is going to change unless we take the power from their hands or pull the rug from under their feet.
Bank transfer day is a great idea, but hardly enough people are planning to join a credit union.
Is it going to take the death of a protester at the hands of police before people really start the revolution?
If history has taught us anything, its that change is a long and bloody road. People are naive to think that standing in a park is going to change anything.. Do you really think the 1% would just admit guilt and say sorry?
I’m not condoning violence, because i wish we could accomplish change peacefully. I just know that its not going to happen any other way.

It feels pointless listing the injustice in our world, those who listen already know and those with their eyes shut couldn’t care less because it doesn’t effect them obviously. But it effects everyone, millions of people live in poverty. Our monetary system holds so many countries to ransom and demands that they trust in us. War is only a short way around the corner and no doubt we will see the deaths of millions of more innocent. Corporations control everything, our governments in debt to some invisible force called debt.

I’m sick to death of seeing all the injustice in the world. Its got to a point where it makes me physically sick, i honestly don’t know who i am when i live in a world like this. Sure its empowering to see so many of the 99% unite but its almost sad to watch in a sense. Its like watching ants with nurf guns going trying to bring down a modern roman empire with high tech military equipment and hired goons (police) with the right to do whatever they want. Not to mention the amount of brainwashed people in the 99% who despise the protesters, its horrible to see the control they have over them. I wish there was a button to press that could make everyone open their eye. If we had the whole 99% together we know the 1% wouldn’t have a chance.
I hope that this is the beginning of the revolution, im not religious but i guess i almost pray that it is.
I know my children don’t have a future if we don’t do something.

If I don’t make it to see the revolution, i wish all the freedom fighters the best. All that matters is that we know were right, it doesn’t matter if some people think were wrong. Because we KNOW were right, its not a matter of opinion its fact from looking at the world around us.
Im sorry if some of this didnt make sense, i feel sick and am on the edge of breaking down if i dont see something change soon. I know the human race has potential but if the 99% cant win, we are doomed.

viva la revolution, and peace to all.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:17 AM
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The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.

That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.

We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:19 AM
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It would help of you OWSers would come up with some sort of coherent message or list of changes you are requesting. I dont see what sitting around in a drum circle or sleeping til noon is going to accomplish. I dont really think we have to worry about OWSers causing a violent revolution, as they barely seem to have the gumption to do more than text message all day and string together unintelligible sentences about why they are there.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:19 AM
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Change will come because it must. Revolution will happen because it is necessary. People will see when they open their eyes. This war has been waging for too long. We have finally come to the age of its apex. The tower has grown too tall. Collapse is inevitable.

People claim there is no message, though even the deaf know its words. Wake up and listen.



S&F for spreading the message.
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by monkeyfartbreath
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It would help of you OWSers would come up with some sort of coherent message or list of changes you are requesting. I dont see what sitting around in a drum circle or sleeping til noon is going to accomplish. I dont really think we have to worry about OWSers causing a violent revolution, as they barely seem to have the gumption to do more than text message all day and string together unintelligible sentences about why they are there.

you would have been told a million times what we are fighting for, not just by ows..we see it every day. if you dont know what were fighting for yet your blind, its not hard.
I think that more and more people are waking up everyday and it may take a while but eventually we will have enough people to actually make a revolution



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.

That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.

We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.


You do realise that all those folks at OWS would be the first ones wiped out if the monetary system collapses or we go into some sort of armed conflict with one another, right?



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.

That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.

We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.

money is the root of all evil.
i think it will happen eventually, people just need to realise that if it doesnt happen soon things are going to get ugly for the 99%
thing its were already the victims, and some people cant even see that.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by ShortMemory

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.

That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.

We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.

money is the root of all evil.
i think it will happen eventually, people just need to realise that if it doesnt happen soon things are going to get ugly for the 99%
thing its were already the victims, and some people cant even see that.


So how is it that you plan to facilitate trade between individuals or societies without some form of money?



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:31 AM
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You do realise that all those folks at OWS would be the first ones wiped out if the monetary system collapses or we go into some sort of armed conflict with one another, right?

you do realise that the entire 99% will be f'd if we let the monetary system continue. i hate to break it to you but its a scam and you and everyone you know will end up screwed. look at the way money works, its a trap and were very close to the noose right now.
the economy is going to fall soon. we can deal with the long term problems and not do anything
or we can remove those that put this trap in place and have some short term effects



So how is it that you plan to facilitate trade between individuals or societies without some form of money?

you trade goods for other goods and services. it worked for hundreds of years.
or you restart the system to make it fair for all..and make the distrubition of money a priority.
there are a million ways to do it
if you think the system in place now is working or fair you must be blind
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by ShortMemory
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You do realise that all those folks at OWS would be the first ones wiped out if the monetary system collapses or we go into some sort of armed conflict with one another, right?

you do realise that the entire 99% will be f'd if we let the monetary system continue. i hate to break it to you but its a scam and you and everyone you know will end up screwed. look at the way money works, its a trap and were very close to the noose right now.
the economy is going to fall soon. we can deal with the long term problems and not do anything
or we can remove those that put this trap in place and have some short term effects


So obviously you must have a plan for what to do after the monetary system collapses. So tell me what that looks like?

My guess is it looks like this:
1. No more social security or medicare.
2. No more welfare.
3. No more infrastructure maintenance.,
4. Not enough oil to fuel cars, trucks, trains, busses, planes, etc..
5. Massive cuts in education.
6. Only the richest will be able to get a higher education.
7. You will work 3 jobs just to get enough food to eat, and so where will your children regardless of age.
8. Armed conflict just to survive.
9. Survival of the fittest.
10. Quality healthcare for only the richest of society.

So be careful what you wish for.


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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:39 AM
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Change will come because it must. Revolution will happen because it is necessary. People will see when they open their eyes. This war has been waging for too long. We have finally come to the age of its apex. The tower has grown too tall. Collapse is inevitable.

revolution is a natural part of a societys evolution. although i wonder if its possible in this day and age. history tells us that nothing ever stays the same but from what im seeing too many people are brainwashed and unable to understand their own plite.
Your right, this war has been brewing for decade..and its started just in the nick of time because just look at where our economy was heading in the very near future.
The message is loud and clear!

thanks for the video, and if i could help anymore i would but at the moment spreading the message is as best as i can do. i have had some great sucsess tho, i was intially the one spreading the general idea behind bank transfer day and they ended up talking about that on fox..one of my proudest achievments even tho someone else put their name behind it..im just glad the message got out, although i would of done it a little differently.

take care friend

eta:
go charlie chaplin!

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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by ShortMemory

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
The only way this can end, is to collapse the monetary system.

That may take years, or it may never happen. However, if it doesn't happen, humanity has no future. We will be slaves until there is nothing left.

We must collapse the system, or become victims of it.

money is the root of all evil.
i think it will happen eventually, people just need to realise that if it doesnt happen soon things are going to get ugly for the 99%
thing its were already the victims, and some people cant even see that.


Not going to happen, humanity will have a future, they will ALWAYS have a future
until the sun becomes a super nova.. Op being your own defeatist will only make you have a dreadful future..



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:46 AM
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Well with 1 and 2 in a fair system these things wouldnt be an issue.
there will always be someone willing to build a new building, if the system is fair then there is more money to spend on things like this..
we wouldnt need oil because if we had our system we would embrace the renewable energy that was chucked in the bin by corps many decades ago
education is not really an issue, people are always going to learn and we would be able to maintain the system and most likely make it more effective..
there would be no system of wealth, or atleast not like there is today
people wouldnt need to work any jobs if they could provide their own services for others..its all about working together
people wont fight if they are not oppressed
we could make healthcare free, it only costs so much today because people put profit over people.

most of the issues you raised are issues currently happening in the system they have in place, problems that are only going to get worse if we continue to follow the economy.
if they are your issues with change then i suggest you look where the world is heading if we dont change things..



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:53 AM
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Not going to happen, humanity will have a future, they will ALWAYS have a future until the sun becomes a super nova.. Op being your own defeatist will only make you have a dreadful future..

Yeah but its not going to be good if we dont change things, we have a small window of oppurtunity before things get a lot worse for everyone..
all tho its off topic i find it unlikely that we would survive until our sun kicks the bucket..to many variables leading to our destruction, which i might add the system in place increases chance of total extinction.

i know im going to have a dreadful future anyway if things dont change... but oh well i cant help feeling the pain of my fellow human beings around the world



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by ShortMemory
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Well with 1 and 2 in a fair system these things wouldnt be an issue.
there will always be someone willing to build a new building, if the system is fair then there is more money to spend on things like this..
we wouldnt need oil because if we had our system we would embrace the renewable energy that was chucked in the bin by corps many decades ago
education is not really an issue, people are always going to learn and we would be able to maintain the system and most likely make it more effective..
there would be no system of wealth, or atleast not like there is today
people wouldnt need to work any jobs if they could provide their own services for others..its all about working together
people wont fight if they are not oppressed
we could make healthcare free, it only costs so much today because people put profit over people.

most of the issues you raised are issues currently happening in the system they have in place, problems that are only going to get worse if we continue to follow the economy.
if they are your issues with change then i suggest you look where the world is heading if we dont change things..


Number one the system will never be fair, because life isnt fair. Some people are born smarter, some better looking, some more athletic, some with talents in the arts, some sick, some ignorant, some with ingrained foolishness, etc....

Renewable energy isnt feasible yet. It is not cost effective, and since you would have just collapsed the monetary system how do you suppose any of that could be paid for when we would have no money?

Healthcare will never be free. It costs money to provide healthcare. You need buildings, equipment, specialised training, supplies, etc....

But the fact is none of that would work at all if you had a system with no money to facilitate the transactions.

Money isnt evil. It cant be. It is an inanimate object. Only men can make things evil. So unless you change human nature overnight then things will remain more or less the same.

Though I do admire your optimism. It reminds me of when I was young.
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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 02:14 AM
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Number one the system will never be fair, because life isnt fair. Some people are born smarter, some better looking, some more athletic, some with talents in the arts, some sick, some ignorant, some with ingrained foolishness, etc....

even if we cant make the system 100% fair we can still make it fairer. some of the biggest problems today are easy fixed, even if we fix a few it would be worth it. And even if nothing changes, i think its a healty part of evolution to knock off the top cats every now and then.



Renewable energy isnt feasible yet. It is not cost effective, and since you would have just collapsed the monetary system how do you suppose any of that could be paid for when we would have no money?

i hate to get into other conspiracies but renewable energy has been feasible for as long as fossil fuels. weve had the technology for decades and if we had the power to do it, it would be easy done.. once again we work together, we can still have a working system.



Healthcare will never be free. It costs money to provide healthcare. You need buildings, equipment, specialised training, supplies, etc....
think about our societys prioritys at the current time. if we change our prioritys we can make things like health care and renewable energy easy and fair. even if healthcare costs money we can still reduce that cost, the current healthcare system is horribly wrong.



But the fact is none of that would work at all if you had a system with no money to facilitate the transactions.

once again we can still use money or very similar systems.. just because someone isnt handing you the system on a spoon doesnt mean it cant be done. this is just part of the problem, people expect things to be so easy and given to them.




Money isnt evil. It cant be. It is an inanimate object. Only men can make things evil. So unless you change human nature overnight then things will remain more or less the same. Though I do admire your optimism. It reminds me of when I was young.

when you let an inanimate object control the world for the good of a small few..its very evil, its just even more insulting that the thing doesnt really exist.
i agree humans are often the downfall of our greatest ideas but when can do our best to make it better.
like i said revolution is part of evolution..even if one thing is made better then its worth it. if things stay the same for too long with the same people in power, things will follow a natural downward spiral.

maybe you should try and be like you were when you were young. when you think about it when do you ever see older people fighting for good.. never underestiamate youth, we are the future..and i think we are making it pretty clear that it will be a more just future then the one forced on older generations.
take care



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posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 02:44 AM
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That is my idea, for the next system.



posted on Oct, 16 2011 @ 02:46 AM
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Im sorry if some of this didnt make sense


It makes sense to me. You pretty much spoke my exact feelings. Ive been waiting for a worldwide movement and it is finally here.




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