US Marines headed to WALLSTREET to protect protesters! THIS IS IT

Originally posted by wasco2
reply to post by Cassius666

 

Yes, but no one said the protesters in New York are the brightest. They're mostly what Stalin called "useful idiots". They buy into and cheer for socialism without realizing the evil brutality that every totalitarian socialist country exhibits.

Er, no. They are demanding fairness and honesty. To have their money and investments handled without cheating, Without theft. Without having it stolen and redistributed to the non-deserving wealthy.

*People are always talking about the " non-deserving poor". This works both ways.

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet- but this is similar to the 1932 Bonus Army demonstration--

en.wikipedia.org...

As Mark Twain remarked "history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme"

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

............rest of quote removed to avoid a massive wall of text

Could you please replace "They" in each of those declarations with who? Oh, and "TPTB" don't cut it outside of internet forums.

I’m not asking to be rude, or dump on the parade. I am wondering if anyone outside of this “movement” realizes how disparate and disjointed that list is. That’s the thing, it’s not a mission statement, it’s a loosely organized list of complaints/rants against……….someone.

Don’t get me wrong; some of those complaints resonate with me. However, with a list of disjointed complaints being the basis for………….what? This whole protest looks and sounds like a bunch of angry agitators who, generally, have no cohesive clue as to what, exactly, *is* the goal. Except for living in the streets, disrupting the lives of those simply trying to go about their day, carrying signs with everything from “Free Tibet” to “Peak Oil” to pro-communist slogans…….. oh, and shouting really nasty things about/at Fox News (unless it’s positive reporting then, Fox is OK). Yeah, communism. It’s only resulted in the deaths of 20,000,000 people (that we know of, probably many more); why not give it another chance? After all, it’s failed everywhere it’s been tried!

See what I mean? Although some of those gripes are completely legit, the protestors themselves are the biggest impediment to this “movement” actually accomplishing anything.

reply to post by bluestar.ranch


Thank you, bluestar.ranch, for bring us this great news. Star and Flag for you, even though you already have a lot of both! It looks like the movement to take back America from the Banking Cartel and give it back to the American People, where it belongs, and where our Founding Fathers wanted it to be. We the People reserve all powers not granted to Congress. Notice I said "granted," not "given." That means, simply, that We the People can, at our discretion, and at any time, take the powers back from Congress. What have they done lately to actually help Americans anyway?

I salute my brothers, the proud and brave Marines and Army men and woman who went to war and fought for the American People, not the Banking Cartel, or the criminal Congress that is owned by them.
Power to the People!

John Lennon - "Power To The People" (1971)

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting

Originally posted by wasco2
reply to post by Cassius666

 

Yes, but no one said the protesters in New York are the brightest. They're mostly what Stalin called "useful idiots". They buy into and cheer for socialism without realizing the evil brutality that every totalitarian socialist country exhibits.

Er, no. They are demanding fairness and honesty. To have their money and investments handled without cheating, Without theft. Without having it stolen and redistributed to the non-deserving wealthy.

*People are always talking about the " non-deserving poor". This works both ways.

As a general rule since the beginning of time, anyone who wants their money handled 100 percent in their own best interest should handle the money themselves. It is not a requirement to hold stocks in this country. People choose to do so. The only possible exception to this is invested social security tax money. And, the people who are calling for an end to the social security collectivism are the exact opposite of those massed on Wall Street.

Originally posted by Seventytwo
I've got this sinking feeling that if this goes on much longer the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers and the Council on Foreign Relations, will attack America again.

They need some sort of distraction to nip this in the bud,
I would put America on Red Alert...

Yeah, I thought of that too.....but hey, we are quite wise to false flags, aren't we? I don't think this can be "nipped in the bud," as you say. A movement gains power as it moves. I take it you are too young to remember the 60s? I saw a war stopped by the American People and Combat Vets, one million strong on Washington Mall.

Wow the trolls are coming out tonight. How many jobs have these "job creators" created? They are a money pit who exist only to shuffle money around to generate transaction fees and they suck up future tax dollars from all of us to pay themselves. They create NOTHING. Hippies are so much more aware than conservatives.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Skewed

 

want a solution?

how about we have free trade? real free trade where the absence of government intervention and let the market dictates success and failures and risk and rewards.

I suppose you support NAFTA? Yeah, that will work. then we can all have the same monetary system, based on the lowest common denominator, and we can all be a Third World country.

but nope cant have that need to control the evil people which has led us to the point where we are.

you can not legislate sucess and wealth the only thing they are doing is leading us to something far worse.

I agree, but this movement is not leading us down a dark path as you say. How old are you? Do you remember anything about the America of the 1950s to 1970s? We had an American Dream in those days, friend. You could walk into a place, and get a job simply by asking for it. A new car could be bought for $5000, and a gallon of gas cost $0.25, a week's worth of groceries cost $20. I think I can speak for all of us here when I say we are sick and tired of the Banking Cartels making money hand over fist, while all the time they take from us, and then disappear our jobs.

the wall street protestors and all those who agree with them they way will never work and it has never worked throughout the history of mankind.

Really? Check here: www.mnhs.org... and here: www.historylearningsite.co.uk... We stopped a war, friend, and we died in the streets to do it.

On May 4, 1970 the Ohio National Guard opened fire into a busy college campus during a school day. A total of 67 shots were fired in 13 seconds. Four students: (L to R) Allison Krause, Jeffrey Miller, William Schroeder, and Sandra Scheuer were killed. Nine students were wounded

www.may4.org...

I looked at your profile, friend, but I cannot really see where you are coming from.

Originally posted by PW229
I can imagine a board meeting at Goldman Sachs right about now:

Chairman: "Will we be able to ride this out?"

Board-member: "In the words of Admiral Yamamoto, I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant."

The people have arisen from their slumber and they are not happy.

Clap clap, clap! Right on! The American People are a sleeping Giant, a Giant with the Right to Bear Arms. I think they, the Banksters, have messed with us long enough. I believe the Bankers will leave the country.
All the American people really need to do is withhold taxes. There is no law on the books that says American have to pay income tax.

Pointr97,
You make some very good points, but it I may...

Originally posted by pointr97
We(founding fathers) created a three party system for checks and balances, for oversight of itself....

It was actually a 3 branch system:

"Legislative Branch
The legislative branch is made up of the two houses of Congress—the Senate and the House of Representatives. The most important duty of the legislative branch is to make laws. Laws are written, discussed and voted on in Congress.

Executive Branch
The President is the head of the executive branch, which makes laws official. The President is elected by the entire country and serves a four-year term. The President approves and carries out laws passed by the legislative branch. He appoints or removes cabinet members and officials. He negotiates treaties, and acts as head of state and commander in chief of the armed forces.

The executive branch also includes the Vice President and other officials, such as members of the cabinet. The cabinet is made up of the heads of the 15 major departments of the government. The cabinet gives advice to the President about important matters.

Judicial Branch
The judicial branch oversees the court system of the U.S. Through court cases, the judicial branch explains the meaning of the Constitution and laws passed by Congress. The Supreme Court is the head of the judicial branch. Unlike a criminal court, the Supreme Court rules whether something is constitutional or unconstitutional—whether or not it is permitted under the Constitution.

On the Supreme Court there are nine justices, or judges: eight associate justices and one chief justice. The judges are nominated by the President and approved by the Senate. They have no term limits. The Supreme Court is the highest court in the land. Its decisions are final, and no other court can overrule those decisions. Decisions of the Supreme Court set precedents—new ways of interpreting the law." Source

.....Every time we go to the ballot box(if we bother to go, shame on you who don't), we could actually elect people who are statesmen and not politicians. We have no one to blame but ourselves, and no one has an excuse....And it is now upon us to fix the situation, and that can still be handled peacefully and at a ballot box. However, as I said earlier, we need as a mass to throw off the veil of ignorance, and start taking the election process seriously.

edit on 1-10-2011 by pointr97 because: (no reason given)

I actually hate to disagree with some of the points here, mainly that this can be handled at the ballot box. It has already been shown that our election process is easy to manipulate (2000 election). Beyond that issue, who would you vote for, the MSM manipulates what is seen and heard from candidates, and even which candidates are seen and heard.

I would hope that citizens would actually do their own research and really learn what they can of any candidate, but, as a nation, we have proven ourselves to lazy to do more than judge by the soundbites shown on the evening news.

Don't get me wrong, I have tremendous hope that what I am seeing happen now may finally be the thing that gets people to pay attention and actually take back control of our country

Originally posted by wasco2
reply to post by Cassius666

 

Yes, but no one said the protesters in New York are the brightest. They're mostly what Stalin called "useful idiots". They buy into and cheer for socialism without realizing the evil brutality that every totalitarian socialist country exhibits.

Thank you, finally someone said it. obama's the one beating the "Class-warfair" drum and these protesters are eating it up. They don't have the slighest clue their being used.
I'm just waiting for it to grow bigger in a few more cities, them obama'll give the word for the plants in these groups to turn thing violent, then we'll have martial law and so on. It's just a matter of when.

Just another false flag implemented for strategic reasons.

Nothing happens without reason. The way this is unfolding is just proof that we are missing something here. Something is being allowed to happen in this very precise way for a specific reason. That reason at this point is unknown, but time will reveal all.

Hopefully you have a gold sticker on your mailbox!haha.

Kudos to their Marines! They have done it again!

An American soldier is human first. He was not born out of a rock. He has family and social networks. He is the sum of a society, that willingly VOLUNTEERS his life to safeguard and protect those he loves and whom loves him. He fights not for the nation, but for those he cares about along with his fellow soldiers, and together, formed the nation. America is only a name for a landmass, but it is the PEOPLE, past and present that made it great, and to remain great for future innocent generations.

They are not mercenaries.

Thus when the nation is in peril, their honour demands they make a stand. Soldiers are never cowards. They do have fears just as any ordinary human, but when facing the test of times, their courage and integrity to their loved ones dispels all fears. More so the Marines, second to none in courage and honour, whom had displayed their valiance time after time when the nation was imperiled in many other forms, along with every american whom had donned that uniform with pride and civilians whom loved the country and cared about others.

reply to post by seabag


I actually agree with much of what you say, but you have to remember, whatever you see on TV may have been specifically selected to give the exact impression you are getting. Also, even if these people are disorganized and unsure of what they actually want, at least they are doing something.

When asked if he had a job he said “I did have a job but I quit last week so I could protest”. Seriously???

Have to agree completely on this one, this guy needs more help then he can get there.

Originally posted by randomname
at least it wouldn't look good if it was plastered all over cnn and youtube of a u.s. marine getting tasered trying to defend a protester getting pummelled by a baton.

NO, it would NOT look good. I think if something like that happens, or a NYC police officer draws and fires on any vet or protester, the shot will be "Heard Around the World." Congress, you had better be paying attention here. We gave you power, and we can take it away. We put you in office, we can take you out of office.

The first eight amendments to the Constitution expressly prohibit the federal government from denying people fundamental rights and important procedural protections.To ensure that Federal officials would not later claim that the list of such rights was exclusive, the Ninth Amendment was enacted.

Then, to ensure that powers not expressly delegated to the Federal Government could still be exercised freely by the States, the Tenth Amendment was enacted. It reads as follows:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Better get that copy of the Constitution, Congress, and dust it off and read it again.

Originally posted by sandmannc40
Where are my Dress Blues..... Sgt. USMC I might not be there but you are in my thoughts.... Be safe and watch out for the corrupt union.

I hear you loud and clear, friend.

Mama? Where is my Tunic and Kepi, and my Springfield? I think it's starting up again!

Originally posted by rigel4
Not a thing about the protests anywhere on Googles front page.

Welcome to the msm google, you now one of them

Go to googlemaps.com, and type in Wall Street, NYC, then go to Satellite, and enlarge. You can see the people in the streets.

Was thinking the president may have ordered troops to be sent there when I was opening, got some good relief as I read

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
They are not mercenaries.

Thus when the nation is in peril, their honour demands they make a stand. Soldiers are never cowards. They do have fears just as any ordinary human, but when facing the test of times, their courage and integrity to their loved ones dispels all fears. More so the Marines, second to none in courage and honour, whom had displayed their valiance time after time when the nation was imperiled in many other forms, along with every american whom had donned that uniform with pride and civilians whom loved the country and cared about others.

Honour ? Wouldn't American Marines be second to none (debatable) in terms of courage ... and honor ? American honor ? Not British/Commonwealth honour ?

Or perhaps you originally wrote that to praise the British Army ? Or you're just a very confused British person praising the US military ?

Less charitable persons would suggest you didn't write any of that tosh yourself anyway.

reply to post by SirClem

This will NOT end well.

Depends on which end you are talking about. I quote my favorite Founding Father and Patriot, Thomas Jefferson:

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...

And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this People Preserve the Spirit of
Resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

This can end well, if people can keep their heads on straight. In any conflict like is about to happen, good people die. That is the nature of a Revolution. For myself, I am more than ready to lay down my life in defence of Liberty.