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What is consistent with the fireballs is thousands of gallons of jet fuel. HE explosions are much different. The chances of a plane doing the damage are much greater than carefully launched missiles that cut out an aircraft silhouette in the building. You are much better off claiming prepositioned explosives and jet fuel smuggled up in coffee mugs. No JASSMs for you.
Originally posted by esdad71
reply to post by Yankee451
Really? No planes? You are a disgrace, honestly, to the people who died that day...on those planes. Fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters. I feel sorry for some of you. You talk about hating the government and you do not realize that you have been indoctrinated. You talk of physics and thermite and CIA/Mossad ops but at no time do you even try to comprehend what is actually going on around the world and throw away any threat as ragheads with boxcutters in caves. conditioning again...so when the time comes you will accept it becuase if it is on the internet it must be true.
You are being controlled by the very people with the power to pull off something like this. Do none of you realize that? You call the ones who believe that our country was attacked as the sheeple, the ones who follow when that is not true. The few of us out here who want not the truth but just the story to be understood without all the anti-government rants. You sound like Nazi;s. spouting a doctrine and blindly repeating what you read and see.
It is those who know what happened that day that will be ready and tell the government to eat the end of a mossberg if they try to take away that right. WAKE UP folks and realize there are 2 sides to them. There always has been and always will be.
Originally posted by esdad71
reply to post by Yankee451
Really? No planes? You are a disgrace, honestly, to the people who died that day...on those planes.
Originally posted by Yankee451
Originally posted by waypastvne
reply to post by Yankee451
The tips did not cut the steel only bent it inwards you know that. The cut steel ended at the same place were the gas tanks ended. Take a look.at the shanksville crater you can clearly see were the fuel tanks end.
Below is a closeup from the left side of the gash. To the left of the severely bent columns, note the two with the dents on the LEFT side of the column, an indication of the direction of travel of the projectile.
Since the wings of a 767 are swept-back 35 degrees, even if they could do such damage to steel formed in a box with two protruding edges, they would not dent the columns on the left, as seen in the image.
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Multiple missiles are consistent with the explosions exiting the tower on three sides:
Originally posted by Yankee451
When looking at propaganda photographs, it is important to use your head, not your heart.
With those engines falling a quarter mile or so, you'd think they'd leave a dent in the pavement. Folks don't seem to even notice them...follow their eyes. Anyone see the steel engine that just hit the street like a meteor? Nope? It's right in front of you!
Originally posted by Yankee451
Are you going to try to point me to a straw stuck in a tree next?
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by pteridine
What is consistent with the fireballs is thousands of gallons of jet fuel. HE explosions are much different. The chances of a plane doing the damage are much greater than carefully launched missiles that cut out an aircraft silhouette in the building. You are much better off claiming prepositioned explosives and jet fuel smuggled up in coffee mugs. No JASSMs for you.
Let me restate my position:.
The media have been run by the CIA since the 40s.
The Internet is part of the media.
I contend the Truth Movement and conspiracy sites like this one are part of the CIA's disinformation program, with representatives on both sides tasked with directing and managing public perception and directing suspicion away from the media.
I contend since most of the content on this 911 forum is limited to anything but the media, that this is an example of that effort, and that posters who continually derail conversations with irrelevant comments are as well.
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by pteridine
Let me restate my position:.
The media have been run by the CIA since the 40s.
The Internet is part of the media.
I contend the Truth Movement and conspiracy sites like this one are part of the CIA's disinformation program, with representatives on both sides tasked with directing and managing public perception and directing suspicion away from the media.
I contend since most of the content on this 911 forum is limited to anything but the media, that this is an example of that effort, and that posters who continually derail conversations with irrelevant comments are as well.
Please address my comments about the damage to the columns.
I submit they prove a plane could not possibly have caused the damage, therefore you must withdraw the claim.
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A few questions
1. Why would a JASSM damage the WTC but not a much larger airliner as hit?
2. Multiple strikes would have resulted in multiple bursts as well as removing the top of the WTC. You do know what these missiles are designed to do, right, or are you copying and pasting without research again?
3. Watch this to see what they are designed to do...
www.youtube.com...
4. Just like physical proof of demolitions, there is not ONE picture of a missile hitting ANY buildings that day. None.
5. Where are the people from those planes that did not exist?
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by pteridine
Let me restate my position:.
I submit they prove a plane could not possibly have caused the damage, therefore you must withdraw the claim.
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by esdad71
I will answer your questions directly. I would appreciate reciprocity.
A few questions
1. Why would a JASSM damage the WTC but not a much larger airliner as hit?
2. Multiple strikes would have resulted in multiple bursts as well as removing the top of the WTC. You do know what these missiles are designed to do, right, or are you copying and pasting without research again?
3. Watch this to see what they are designed to do...
www.youtube.com...
4. Just like physical proof of demolitions, there is not ONE picture of a missile hitting ANY buildings that day. None.
5. Where are the people from those planes that did not exist?
1. JASSM Missiles are designed to penetrate hardened targets. Jets are designed to fly through the air.
2. Multiple strikes can all be electronically timed to detonate simultaneously, detonating pre-planted napalm.
3: This video further supports my position, and detracts from yours.
4. I consider this in my Green Screen Magic thread, which I might add, was immediately shut down by the admins after BoneZ, a representative from AE 911 Truth, complained.
5. I'll let you figure this one out.
Originally posted by gentledissident
Yankee451, I'm still not convinced a plane shaped object didn't hit the buildings. I don't even think it's much of an argument compared to other discrepancies.
What is your avatar?
Originally posted by pteridine
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by pteridine
Let me restate my position:.
I submit they prove a plane could not possibly have caused the damage, therefore you must withdraw the claim.
You think a plane could not possibly have caused the damage and so I have to withdraw my claim. What a fine, logical argument sure to win converts to your theory.
I submit that JASSM missiles couldn't possibly cause the damage, therefore you must admit your theory has no basis.
JASSM's do not do their damage with wings and those aluminum wings do not account for bent columns. JASSM warheads are not filled with thousands of gallons of jet fuel and do not account for the fireballs and subsequent fires.
Try to explain how the JASSM can do what was done. Address the column damage and explain how the JASSM wings cut and bent steel columns. Explain the source of the fireballs on impact. Your theory is done.