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Originally posted by TheRedneck
Obviously, they do not break down the sugars they produce; they use them for growth.
Fauna break down those sugars (food) using aerobic metabolism in order to produce proteins and acquire energy for movement.
Any aerobic reactions inside the plant (and there are a few) are so small compared to the photosynthetic process as to be... you called it earlier.... 'irrelevant'!
Seems like an easy experiment to perform. Let me know your set-up and results (although I predict the plant would grow at several times its 'normal' rate).
I guess all those commercial greenhouses have been killing plants off all those years... the fiends! Then they sell them to us and tell us they're alive just because they are green and growing! Charlatans!
Yeah, I guess I am uneducated. Thank goodness you're here to correct me that plants now use oxygen to produce carbon dioxide and break down the sugars made by photosynthesis. I wonder, since you're so obviously well-educated... where do the sugars in the food we eat come from if not from plants?
(Let me help you out... plants absorb carbon dioxide from the air, obtain water from their root systems, and use sunlight to create simple sugars that form the structure of the plant itself. In the process they give off oxygen. When we eat plants for food, we use oxygen from the air to reduce those sugars, producing energy and carbon dioxide in the process.)
(Oh, and I assume you know that when I say 'simple sugars' I am speaking of various hydrocarbon chains, not the powdery white stuff you buy in the supermarket.)
TheRedneck
Originally posted by TheRedneck
Seems like an easy experiment to perform. Let me know your set-up and results (although I predict the plant would grow at several times its 'normal' rate).
I guess all those commercial greenhouses have been killing plants off all those years... the fiends! Then they sell them to us and tell us they're alive just because they are green and growing! Charlatans!
Originally posted by MasterGemini
Everyone stop breathing you are global warming!
So how are we going to account for the other 85% at least of Co2 that doesn't come from homosapians?
What about the other 70% of the green house effect? Should we all stop drinking H2O also?
How about the global warming that comes from the sun?
Cosmic /galactic winds?
And don't even give me this average global temp is a good measure because it is not. The temp and climate varies so drastically from one place to another that measuring it as a global average is asinine.
Too many factors for them to calculate.
Especially since their "best" evidence for man made global warming came from studies specifically design to prove man made global warming (unscientific in the first place as science can only prove a theory false. Like man made global warming killing the planet.... LoL), and were done after the grand claims had been made.
But still I thought we were supposed to be heading into an Ice age. Was it China, Russia, Brazil, or India that ruined that trend? Or was it religious zealots driven by their slave master spaghetti monster of a god driving their trailers to church every sunday?
As it turns out all the hot air Al Gore has been blowing is the true cause of global warming.edit on 11-8-2011 by MasterGemini because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MasterGemini
When the earth has such varied climates at all times that makes the average temperature of the entire globe a highly inaccurate tool for measuring the effect of changes in specific areas under a certain (very large) size.
Would you use the average temperature of a solar system to measure the average temperature of a planet? No because the scales are just too far apart to be useful.
Yes. Plants use sugars for growth... by breaking them down for energy, in the exact same way that very nearly every other form of life on earth does. They use oxygen as a catalyzing agent to do so - aerobic frikkin' respiration. The by-product of this process is Carbon dioxide gas - just as it is in every single other aerobic organism on the face of the earth.
6 CO2 + 6 H2O + Energy ---> C6H12O6 + 6 O2
6 O2 + C6H12O6 ---> Energy + 6 CO2 + 6 H2O
Actually it's not few - and even by allowing "a few" you are shooting yourself in the foot, since you are so adamantly certain that it nevereverever happens, ever.
You really shouldn't attempt to be patronizing after this discussion, Redneck.
Now I am dizzy.
Originally posted by Kitilani
Originally posted by MasterGemini
When the earth has such varied climates at all times that makes the average temperature of the entire globe a highly inaccurate tool for measuring the effect of changes in specific areas under a certain (very large) size.
Would you use the average temperature of a solar system to measure the average temperature of a planet? No because the scales are just too far apart to be useful.
Now I am dizzy. Are you saying that the global average temperatures are used to measure the temperature in specific locations? Isn't that how the average is obtained to begin with? It is specific data from specific places all over.
I do not understand this comparison to the solar system/planet thing. If your analogy were to make sense, one of the numbers used to gain that solar system average would be that planets average temp.
Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest.Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7° F. Although that figure is at best an estimate, it is supported by other convincing data. When Climatologist George J. Kukla of Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory and his wife Helena analyzed satellite weather data for the Northern Hemisphere, they found that the area of the ice and snow cover had suddenly increased by 12% in 1971 and the increase has persisted ever since. Areas of Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, for example, were once totally free of any snow in summer; now they are covered year round.