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Originally posted by Kitilani
I have to laugh because it seems like you are saying that they would be unable to make one with the right number all these years later, and yet they had not trouble making one that still fit the number range from the time.
I also have to laugh because you seem to believe what you just wrote even though you have no idea why you think it.edit on 5-7-2011 by Kitilani because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by UcDat
reply to post by Kitilani
ok so what we going to keep going round and round or you going to prove how the long form BC has so many issues?
Your obviously not going to pull out any experts like this woman or the guy who sold all the equipment and software to Hawai for making and storing the BC's. Not even the major news channels can get one to step up. So you got nothing without resorting to ridicule or chasing your tails about the irrelevant whatnots...
I dont care that obama is Black just that he's lying scum like his cousin Bush
I dont care if your twisted view of the world makes that ok
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Originally posted by ontarff
You obviosly haves not read the information available to make comments like this.
Your last sentance is gibberish as is an inference that I don't understand what I am commenting about. This is also an unsupported and just your rude opinion.
Originally posted by aptness
I agree that is a question of proof, and all the necessary proof has been provided. It was, in fact, provided months before the election.
Originally posted by ontarff
It isn't about a personal attack on our elected President, it is a question on the legitimate proof that has not yet been provided by the State of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth certificate released before the election is a legal and valid birth certificate. It confirms he was born in the United States, and his parents weren’t foreign enemy soldiers or diplomats, so he is a natural born citizen.
Unless you have credible and tangible evidence that contradicts an official document of one state of the union, for any reasonable and unbiased person this is a non-issue.
Originally posted by Kitilani
##SNIP## Do you know what a personal attack is? Call us some more names.
Originally posted by UcDat
lol no worst than calling someone a birther!
and nothing I've seen here counters the fact these are experts nothing but hot shill air that is nor do i need the original to see the pdf is riddled with issues.
Fact is the only way we will see the original is if this goes to court or Obama wips it out for the win in 2012
edit on 5-7-2011 by UcDat because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by UcDat
and nothing I've seen here counters the fact these are experts nothing but hot shill air that is nor do i need the original to see the pdf is riddled with issues.
Fact is the only way we will see the original is if this goes to court or Obama wips it out for the win in 2012
Originally posted by Kitilani
Originally posted by ontarff
You obviosly haves not read the information available to make comments like this.
I know everything about this numbering "issue" you birthers have said about it and I know the facts. Where are your facts?
Your last sentance is gibberish as is an inference that I don't understand what I am commenting about. This is also an unsupported and just your rude opinion.
Sorry you do not understand what I say.
So again I will ask you to explain to me and prove your inside knowledge of how they should have been pnumbered so that your "issue" is remotely believable. You are not going to be the first but unless you try, you already failed.
Did you bring it up because you heard it somewhere or because you understand it? I do not want to have to ask you to explain it a 3rd time.
Originally posted by OnionSurfer
reply to post by mb2591
Do you think it matters who the President is?
Put a Republican in office. Again. The same stuff with happen. Again.
Choice is an illusion. The "economy" will continue to suck. Corporations will continue destroying the planet. Our armed forces will still be killing people all over the world.
To blame Obama is ridiculous. The whole system is corrupt.
Fools.
Originally posted by ontarff
Originally posted by aptness
I agree that is a question of proof, and all the necessary proof has been provided. It was, in fact, provided months before the election.
Originally posted by ontarff
It isn't about a personal attack on our elected President, it is a question on the legitimate proof that has not yet been provided by the State of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth certificate released before the election is a legal and valid birth certificate. It confirms he was born in the United States, and his parents weren’t foreign enemy soldiers or diplomats, so he is a natural born citizen.
Unless you have credible and tangible evidence that contradicts an official document of one state of the union, for any reasonable and unbiased person this is a non-issue.
FYI, Hawaii is not releasing the original hardcopy BC for evaluation. Why?
Originally posted by aptness
The originals are in books in the Department of Health and always stay there. These originals never leave. Everyone’s birth certificates are based on the information contained in these, or are photocopied from these.
Because the originals are internal documents that can’t be released to anyone. What you are looking at on the WH website is a photocopy of the original on security paper. The information you are reading there is what’s on the original.
Originally posted by ontarff
FYI, Hawaii is not releasing the original hardcopy BC for evaluation. Why?
Originally posted by General.Lee
Originally posted by caladonea
Really...aren't there enough threads on this subject? It has been discussed (ad nauseam). Right now he is the president ...he is in office....accept it.
And for those of you who may not know: (ad nauseam) "is Latin for an argument that has been discussed to the point of nausea; has been discussed to a disgusting or ridiculous degree"
That's like saying, "He got a way with murder, you can't catch him, accept it". Usurping the constitution and office of the President is NOT a minor misdemeanor to get swept under the carpet. Until this preposterous crime is properly addressed, we will NOT go quietly. Perhaps that is YOUR style, to cut and run with your tail between your legs, but the rest of us believe in fighting for this country, so I tell you; DEAL WITH IT!
Originally posted by ontarff
I am not going to qoute all of the "facts" you supposedly know. Obviosly you use the facts to support your argument and I use them to support mine. You have not provided facts to support your argument as well.edit on 7/5/2011 by ontarff because: typo
Originally posted by roadtoad
In reality, the experts, who all give their credentials, are only claiming that the PDF file is a fraud,
nothing elsel. This is the only premise, not your invented premise
Originally posted by Kitilani
Originally posted by UcDat
and nothing I've seen here counters the fact these are experts nothing but hot shill air that is nor do i need the original to see the pdf is riddled with issues.
Fact is the only way we will see the original is if this goes to court or Obama wips it out for the win in 2012
I love your logic.
Nothing I have seen here proves these people are experts. But you just believe they are. Why?
Nothing I have seen here proves Obama's birth certificate is anything but legitimate.
See what I did?
Seriously. Why are you people that question so much about Obama so ready to just believe anyone that claims to be an expert? Not gonna ask them to prove they are who they claim they are?
Originally posted by UcDat
I sure do see it a whole lot of nothing if I posted an article here that wasnt backed by real experts it would be torn down and in the hoax bin in minuts flat.
So again you got nothing but your own retarded argument about teh but the pdf dont count cause i say so...
see what i did there?
btw you remind me a lot of my buddy Synthia she was just as good at twisting words