Telstra, Optus to start censoring the web next month.

Telstra, Optus to start censoring the web next month.

News

MOST Australian internet users will have their web access censored next month after the country's two largest internet providers agreed to voluntarily block more than 500 websites from view.

The voluntary scheme was originally proposed by the Federal Government last year as part of a wider, $9.8 million scheme to encourage internet service providers to block all Refused Classification material from users as an optional service.

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And so it begins. Why is it Australia is an early adopter of this kind of crap? First we have smart chip enabled drivers licences and now internet censorship. Sure it's only the two largest ISPs in Australia, its only a weak implementation and it only filters out child porn websites, or so they tell us, but this is clearly the same feed it to them slowly strategy used by these nanny nation asshats world wide. In my opinion Australia has become the testing ground for NWO policies.

I'm with iiNet. They haven't signed up for this as far as I know - knowing them it will be a cold day in hell before they censor their customers.

Many Aussies maybe, certainly not most Aussies. Most Aussies with half a brain don't use Telstra or Optus. Businesses perhaps, but not private citizens.

reply to post by AusiAnarchist


Take away our guns, then take away our internet. I see the pattern here.

Yes - actually I come from New Zealand and I noticed years back that we were the first testing ground - GST and stuff like this.

The reason they do this is because Aus / NZ have relatively small populations so they can quickly implement their sneaky little plans and test public reaction - if the public takes it, there is a good chance that countries with larger populations like UK and USA will take it as well.

Originally posted by AusiAnarchist

Telstra, Optus to start censoring the web next month.

News

MOST Australian internet users will have their web access censored next month after the country's two largest internet providers agreed to voluntarily block more than 500 websites from view.

The voluntary scheme was originally proposed by the Federal Government last year as part of a wider, $9.8 million scheme to encourage internet service providers to block all Refused Classification material from users as an optional service.

(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 22-6-2011 by AusiAnarchist because: Autoscripting malfunction.

I, personally, have absolutely no problems with censorship on the net.

Take a look at another article on the news right now;

Terrorists find all their info online

Brief rundown - potential terrorists can find anything they want online.

So, as someone who doesn't look up kiddie porn or how to make bombs, why should this censorship bother me?

If it stops even a handful of people doing the wrong thing, then I'm all for it.

Same as heightened security at airports - 30 mins inconvenience, to stop a psycho with a gun is a price I will happily pay for my familys safety.

reply to post by ParAvion


Please by all means let me know how I can help you not to 'accept' this nonsense.

They want to convert the entire Internet into a commercial toy.

People like you and I run the risk of never exchanging thoughts becuase some technocrat somewhere got a bug up his butt and decided "No bandwitdh for you!" like some network nazi on steroids.

reply to post by AusiAnarchist


That's the last straw, time to find a new ISP, I'm not sure if it will help though. My understanding is that the smaller ISP's buy their bandwidth from Telstra anyway, so effectively the entire country may be censored from now on. Also i have heard that we won't be privy to the banned list thus we will never know what we are not seeing.

Your right this is the testing ground for the NWO.

Originally posted by AusiAnarchist

And so it begins. Why is it Australia is an early adopter of this kind of crap? First we have smart chip enabled drivers licences and now internet censorship. Sure it's only the two largest ISPs in Australia, its only a weak implementation and it only filters out child porn websites, or so they tell us, but this is clearly the same feed it to them slowly strategy used by these nanny nation asshats world wide. In my opinion Australia has become the testing ground for NWO policies.

edit on 22-6-2011 by AusiAnarchist because: (no reason given)

Australia seem to have a lot of censorship issues, a lot of games are banned over there. Sure the games are not the issue, but it gives a good indication of how the goverment choose to treat censorship. Im not suprised its Australia and wont be for America, I do hope the EU countries put up a fight.

i thought they did anyway!....

as long as the porn is ok...

i think australia messed up when they let jodie foster be prime minister...lol


peace

Think outside the box. China has had filtered Internet for years, arguably far more draconian than what is currently being proposed. Yet many are skirting this filter and getting on with their lives. There are and will be better ways to circumvent filtering but for the most part I would think the sites that are targeted are legit crap anyways (ie. kiddie porn). The potential for this action to expand is certainly possible but unlikely. Privacy advocates and the fact that many government initiatives have failed will ensure this doesn't succeed.

brill

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You know, I find most of my information online too.

Why do I have to be stopped from accessing your newsites, or blogs, or whatever? How did my virtual presence become the subject of suspicion?

If they know where the terrorists are, go get them - that's what they are paid to do.

If they don't, then why the hell would you not want to WATCH THEM online? If what they claim is true, they KNOW who and where they are.

It's bizarre, am I the only one who sees that the people being restricted here are NOT THE TERRORISTS.

Guess what, one in ten of your neighbors might be a criminal..... should we call the cops? Should we start restricing your movements and monitoring you, because you MIGHT be the one?

This act is not one of PROTECTION. It is one of ENCARCERATION.

((By the way.. I mean the perjorative "you" not you personally. No hate. ))

Originally posted by ExCommando


So, as someone who doesn't look up kiddie porn or how to make bombs, why should this censorship bother me?

If it stops even a handful of people doing the wrong thing, then I'm all for it.

What if ATS end up on the banned list as it could be represented as a terrorist threat. Seriously Terrorists don't need the internet to make bombs what a joke.

The whole kiddy porn angle is used just to scare well meaning people into signing up and or agreeing to censorship.

Don't fall for it.

Originally posted by tlasalt

Originally posted by ExCommando


So, as someone who doesn't look up kiddie porn or how to make bombs, why should this censorship bother me?

If it stops even a handful of people doing the wrong thing, then I'm all for it.

What if ATS end up on the banned list as it could be represented as a terrorist threat. Seriously Terrorists don't need the internet to make bombs what a joke.

The whole kiddy porn angle is used just to scare well meaning people into signing up and or agreeing to censorship.

Don't fall for it.

Quite a definitive statement "terrorists dont need the internet to make bombs".

I think you'll find that you're completely wrong.

The traditional training ground of aspiring terrorists were the militant training camps, which when attended leave a strong "footprint", which is getting harder and harder to avoid.

A homegrown terrorist, who has been indoctrinated in his home country (say the UK, or Australia), can join a chat room, and discuss the tactics to implement an attack; or they can browse a website and download a manual on how to make a bomb.

These sites are making it too easy, and it's only a matter of time before a disenchanted kid drops a home made chemical bomb in a shopping centre.

So yes, I think censorship is the way forwards - how the government handles this is an entirely different matter.

It says it is an optional service.

Probably for parental controls.

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how many terrorists have you seen get caught by security lately?

by my count, they LET the underwear bomber and shoe bomber on the plane. its to scare you into giving up your freedom, and its working.

Originally posted by ExCommando

Originally posted by tlasalt

Originally posted by ExCommando


So, as someone who doesn't look up kiddie porn or how to make bombs, why should this censorship bother me?

If it stops even a handful of people doing the wrong thing, then I'm all for it.

What if ATS end up on the banned list as it could be represented as a terrorist threat. Seriously Terrorists don't need the internet to make bombs what a joke.

The whole kiddy porn angle is used just to scare well meaning people into signing up and or agreeing to censorship.

Don't fall for it.

So yes, I think censorship is the way forwards [/quote

You might want to make that your signature since that is how you feel.

reply to post by ExCommando


Absolutely! If we can trust our governments to decide what to censor and what not to censor. Unfortunately, I don't trust them for a moment with decisions like that, and I think most people don't.

reply to post by ExCommando


But they don't need the internet, it might make it easier but I learnt everything i needed to know in high school a person can still go to the library and find out what chemicals will react and cause an explosion or release toxic gasses when combined.

My friends and i used to make small explosive's just for kicks, it was easy go to the cleaning products section in the grocery store and read the labels. they tell you what not to mix it with. We just did it to make a loud noise or destroy the odd mailbox but you could easily upscale to devastating effect.

Internet censorship will start all nice and innocent but bit by bit things will disappear, soon you won't even know your being censored the tv the radio and the internet will all have the same things on them. you will have no other point of view to challenge the mainstream.

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Hmmmmm... looks like everyone missed the "optional" line.

seemingly you can opt out of the censorship.

but meh.. i'll just keep ghosting my MAC and piggy backing off public nets when im up to no good

when im good i am very good.. but when i am bad i am horrid

*jokes*

If any of you are concerned about being blocked from content that you would normaly view... then what the hell are you viewing anyway? for the masses and especially the kiddies.. i dont think this is too much of a bad thing as yet.. however .. it does have the potential of becoming a "nanny network" in australia.