GRAPHIC CONTENT: Teacher Beats Children

When I was little, some teachers/caretakers were mean to me too. Simple little things like this, such as being hit with a ruler, can be traumatizing to a child. That's why you don't hurt children; they're children.
I hate people who try to exert power over others, especially when the other side is helpless and unable to defend itself.
Maybe he should have his hand removed.

reply to post by lazernation


Well I don't know the case in your country but when a child is expelled the school board is required to give an alternative education opportunity like placing them in a different school or a home tutor. If that is not the case in your country then there is something amiss, and you being a teacher, should bring it up to the board of education.

Yes expullsion is a drastic measure but you said the children where assaulting others so I think it would be appropriate for the protection of others. To say it is far more damaging than corporal punishment is incorrect. Here are some links

umaine.edu...
www.letu.edu...
hoydenabouttown.com...
www.sciencedaily.com...

It is illegal to hit an adult, under any circumstance except for self defence. Whether it is just a smack or a full blown beating, assault is assault. Why some people think it should be any different for children I don't know.

reply to post by lazernation


Then give them zeros for not doing their word and fail them. Tell them that if they don't listen, they'll wind up staying in this class even LONGER by taking it all over again so they better just listen and get it right the first time.

doubledutch: I agree with you completely. Beating up young children who are still learning about the world is malicious and can be traumatizing for them.

It is very telling that some posters don't find the video offensive. I've noticed a disturbing trend in the US. Gradually torture has been introduced in TV series. Years ago there was an outcry when in "24" agent Bauer was tortured and then tortured others to get some information. In the new NBC series "The Event" torture was used by the "hero" and it was ok to do so. Nobody complaint. Our threshold has been severely lowered.

The OP's video is disgusting.

I don't see how people could actually condone this. This isnt 50 yrs ago in the Western States, where a good beating was acceptible, nor shutting a child up and disallowing them to express their emotions. No they just beat them, and in england anyways, your neighbors could wallup your kid too if they thought they deserved it.

The Movie Industry as well as Media has condoned all the crap they plaster all over the place with disregard to those whom it will affect the most, which is Children. It's crept into our system so long people are De Sensitized to it now, and see no harm. It is the downfall of Society in the Western World.

However we must remember this is Egypt. Most people there are Muslims, they make women hide under blankets every time they want to go out, and they Physically Mutilate their Daughters at an early age.

Wouldn't you think that most of these kids, especially the girls would be scared to death of doing anything to give this bully teacher a reason to harm them further? They live in fear every moment of every day of Men. This is abuse 101. This is Wrong, and saying its ok to pull hair and push shove or anything else is ok, well its not and you can ask anyone in the human rights dept. that. just shoving someone with the intent to scare or harm is an offense and will land yet another bully in jail. So why should it be ok to damage the delicate mindset of a child this way?

I had a really nasty woman teacher in primary school who picked on me, of all the kids i was the one she chose to consistantly demean in front of my peers, you know why? not because i was rowdy loud or abnoxious, nooo i was so quiet, i may as well have been invisible. I was overtly shy and stayed away the loud abnoxious types. So stereo typing anyone because of a hunch is just ignorant.

Anyways that said, the world will never cease until people no longer tollerate extensive abuse (and i don't mean a smack on the wrist) to those who cannot physically nor emotionally defend themselves.

Remember the saying, 'Why don't you go and pick on someone your own size?' Well because it's also true.

This truly makes me sick watching this, if I was the parent of one of those kids, trust me I would hunt down that sad excuse for a man and beat the #e out of him oh I am angry after seeing this

The strong overpowering and physically abusing the weak... seems to be a common thread in society, doesn't it ? And apparently, it's perfectly acceptable too.

Yup, I think employers should start smacking their employees on the hands with rulers when they've been standing around the water cooler too long... afterall, it's just a trivial little love tap... no harm done. It's only meant to discipline poor behaviour.

In fact, everyone should carry a ruler around with them at all times and whenever someone steps out of line, we should smack them on the hand.

To hell with using our brain matter to resolve issues, let's just swat each other with little love taps instead.

Originally posted by Evola
While I’m a supporter of corporal punishment, this is rather absurd. It appears none of the kids did anything wrong, and even if they did, Hitting a person’s back and pulling their hair is no way to punish them.

The teacher should be stripped in public, and caned a few times.

Could not agree more. I use to get the # kicked out of me and trust me, my grades did not improve. Some children do need to be disciplined but the method he uses is just sadistic.

Wow. In America it's the students that beat the Teachers.

The Middle East really is completely opposite to the West isn't it !

I have mixed feelings when it comes to the question if punishment is useful whether in school or at home. Yes, seeing that video my intial reaction was similar to the most of you... Gimme 5 minutes in the same room with this guy...! But at a second thought physical punishment for bad behaviour is an educational method that is thousands of years old and it helped a lot of kids to understand the values, to distinguish right from wrong, good from evil and so on... me, I never received corporal punishment in school but boy did my mom taught me a lesson or two when I didn't behave (I was a menace as a kid) ... And tbh it helped me alot to find my place in life and society...

So the question whether corporal punishment or not is valid one which everyone has to answer for himself... When it comes down to condemn a society, in this case Egypt, it's stupid and hypocritical...

I have mixed feelings when it comes to the question if punishment is useful whether in school or at home. Yes, seeing that video my intial reaction was similar to the most of you... Gimme 5 minutes in the same room with this guy...! But at a second thought physical punishment for bad behaviour is an educational method that is thousands of years old and it helped a lot of kids to understand the values, to distinguish right from wrong, good from evil and so on... me, I never received corporal punishment in school but boy did my mom taught me a lesson or two when I didn't behave (I was a menace as a kid) ... And tbh it helped me alot to find my place in life and society...

So the question whether corporal punishment or not is valid one which everyone has to answer for himself... When it comes down to condemn a society, in this case Egypt, it's stupid and hypocritical...

Hair-pulling + beating-wherever = WRONG.
A ruler to palms of your hands = VERY VERY RIGHT
Back in the day, even if you had 9/10 you still receive one smash......8/10 two smashes....etc up until junior year in high school. What difference is when you enter highschool, most of teachers aloow you to negotiate when to get your "beating" (classtime) and open to some options; you can receive your "beating" base on test by test or you can receive it as a lump sum at the end of the semester. (I am not kidding, this is real stuff)
In highschool, the stick is 2.5 times bigger than the one in this video and each teacher usually has 5 of them.......at the end of each semester NONE remain unbroken. Hell, I was usually got two beating; once from the teach and once from my dad for the same problem..... 85% of teachers in my generation dedicate their life for education....they actually spend time with your family to work out your problem and care for your future.....too bad 95% of that 85% are retired now.
99.8% of elementary-highschool students need "beating" = FACT

Seems to me that people and social systems naturally fall into one of three control loci;

Biological imperative - law of the jungle - need to beat them to control them. (criminals)

Socialised - where just approval/disaproval keeps everyone in line. (traditional values)

Intellectual - where ethical values are the measure of everything. (progressive PC heaven)


Trying to mix them all into one environment creates all sorts of problems - and is probably why the caste system originated.

I was expecting to see some teacher ruffing up some punk kid, but this man needs to get his butt kicked big time. I work in a school district and I believe alot of young people are just narrow minded, media crazed idiots that spend most of the day more concerned about whos fighting whom and who they want to fight next I have seen kids call teachers names, throw objects and even hit teacher's. These students fill water ballons with bleach and urine and throw them randomly into crowds of other students. They have very little concern as to the punishment since there is not much of one to start with, this is one of the schools and what we teachers have to deal with there are many more videos on you tube like this.

Here's a story of Confucius or someone of that caliber.....it's fictional I think.....they say that before he became who he was; he got alot of beating (hitting wherever with a stick) from (his mother or teacher/mentor)......he was really angry like many of you folks here......but when he got older and finally became Confucius the one we know of today.......in an occasion, he received a beating from his (mother or teacher/mentor) for doing some against her/his will.......he cried......when he being asked why because his (mother or teacher/mentor) had have never seen he cried no matter how hard beatings were. He answered because the beating he'd just received was not strong as it was before and so he realized that (his mother or teacher/mentor) was getting older.
This story is totally irrelevent to the thread; I just want to put it out there for people to understand a bit more about Eastern mentality and cultures.

Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by lazernation

 

Then give them zeros for not doing their word and fail them. Tell them that if they don't listen, they'll wind up staying in this class even LONGER by taking it all over again so they better just listen and get it right the first time.


Beating up young children who are still learning about the world is malicious and can be traumatizing for them.

Many couldn't care less about their grades. Many parents don't care about their grades. They see school as free babysitting. Where do we go from here?

Detention can work in some cases, but again, many of them don't care. They see it as a badge and laugh about it. And if you do it too often, the parents complain, putting your livelihood at risk.

Beating up children is wrong. We're talking about a ruler slap on the hand, or a cane on the backside. There is a difference. As I said before, the bloke in the vid loses it with the little girl and should obviously be looking for alternate work. If a teacher loses their cool like that, they are in the wrong job. Violence or not.

To say that all corporal punishment is traumatizing/malicious is a little naive, and very presumptuous. Just because some may be traumatized, doesn't make it so for all.

Originally posted by ScousePhil
reply to post by lazernation

 

Well I don't know the case in your country but when a child is expelled the school board is required to give an alternative education opportunity like placing them in a different school or a home tutor. If that is not the case in your country then there is something amiss, and you being a teacher, should bring it up to the board of education.

Yes expullsion is a drastic measure but you said the children where assaulting others so I think it would be appropriate for the protection of others. To say it is far more damaging than corporal punishment is incorrect. Here are some links

umaine.edu...


www.letu.edu...
hoydenabouttown.com...
www.sciencedaily.com...

It is illegal to hit an adult, under any circumstance except for self defence. Whether it is just a smack or a full blown beating, assault is assault. Why some people think it should be any different for children I don't know.

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Cheers for the linkys, but I've read so many reports by pedagogy theorists that have absolutely zero practical value. Many of these people have never even taught. I personally had two mates that got expelled. Cook was killed driving a stolen porsche at the age of seventeen. Deano is inside for smack dealing.

Worked great for those two hey. And yes, they got all this care, had special one to one counseling etc. Expulsion is exclusive. It doesn't teach discipline. A few little smacks from an early age may well have meant a different outcome for these two lads. It may well not have. It certainly would not have been traumatizing. They were both tough little blighters. I grew up in Essex, England, by the way. I have taught in China and now teach in Thailand. Corporal punishment is used in both countries. It works in many cases, I don't care what the Phds say.

reply to post by lazernation


Well I suppose this is one of those times where we'll have to agree to disagree.

While I have never taught children I have been a bouncer and you could argue that drunk adults are similar to beligerent children.

Sorry to hear about your friends. I've had a few that have gone down for dealing and I, myself, almost went down the same path. Some of them where beaten regulary some of their parents didn't care at all.

hmm From what i have observed on this thread the only ones who seem to be agreeing
with beating children and women as being 'a good thing' sometimes, seems to be
coming mainly from the Male Community here! Again not all of the Guys but the
ones Condoning this behaviour only.

Originally posted by awareness10
hmm From what i have observed on this thread the only ones who seem to be agreeing
with beating children and women as being 'a good thing' sometimes, seems to be
coming mainly from the Male Community here! Again not all of the Guys but the
ones Condoning this behaviour only.

A fair observation. My own observation at the schools I have worked at; it's women teachers that actually dish out the corporal punishment more. Strange.